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Too many people abuse system

Published: Tue, February 7, 2012 @ 12:00 a.m.

Too many people abuse system

What has happened to Americans working hard for their income? I was always taught to work for what I earned. It seems as if some people are abusing the use of the food stamp system. I am aware that some people who require food stamps are disabled or elderly, leaving them unable to work but, others simply cross the line.

Some college students who live on campus have their tuition and rent paid in full by their parents. Yet, they apply for food stamps and receive them. Others buy unjustifiable items with food stamps, like energy drinks and candy.

The USDA Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program states that “Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream are food items and are therefore eligible items.” That is according to the “Junk Food” and Luxury Items Food and Nutrition Act of 2008, which defines adequate food items for consumption in the home.

Also, the USDA states that energy drinks qualify with a nutrition facts label. In spite of this, “energy drinks with a supplement facts label are classified by the FDA as supplements, and are not eligible.”

Nutrition label or not, a Snickers candy bar and a Red-Bull energy drink are not essential items. Are those snacks benefitting anyone’s health? I don’t believe so.

Food stamps should be provided for people who need to buy reasonable groceries for themselves and the dependents in their homes. Flaws remain in this system and it needs reformed for the upcoming election season.

I also believe that if we as working class citizens are required to take drug tests to maintain a job and receive our paychecks, then those who are applying for welfare and receiving government aid should be required to take drug tests.

The Web site ssa.gov states the qualifications for receiving government aid. However, nowhere does it list anything about the user’s health and drug testing.

It would be nice to know taxpayer dollars are not only going to those in need, but also to those who are law-abiding citizens.

Kacy Standohar, Youngstown


1Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago


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2redeye1(5054 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

This is what the liberals ( D Party) has done to this program. They don't want people to do without.

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3walter_sobchak(2172 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Years ago, there was a stigma attached to welfare; people were proud to be able to provide for themselves and their families. No more!

"He who eats my bread will sing my song!"

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4redeye1(5054 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Blah Check the voting records of congress You will see that the D party led he way for this abuse by allowing anyone and everyone to join welfare.They voted against any changes that the GOP try to put in. to better the system. The D party thinks this is a way to buy votes. Just look at Obama record there are more people on welfare now then ever.

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5AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Well if it wasn't for BUSH and his unemployment skyrocketing, then giving BILLIONS to banks, not so many would need help.

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6AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

many more people went on welfare under bush then under Obama. Finally under Obama unemployment that Bush caused is going back down.

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7redvert(2161 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Call it anyway you want, but which party gets the vote of those on welfare whether they truly deserve help or are milking the system. That tells the story.

And Citizen, how did these banks get into trouble in the first place, most of it being on home loans? Here is a good clue.


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8rocky14(762 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago


Why are you always wrong?
Most of the states with the highest welfare,food stamps and poverty are right to work states.
Most of these people vote Republican.
Go figure

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9doubled(210 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

I'm a progressive and I don't necessarily disagree with these proposals...but I have to wonder..These proposals sounds tea partyish to me - or GOP at the very least...they espouse small govt and much less govt intrusion into the lives of Americans...but these proposals are just the opposite...SO I have to wonder, is their position less govt intrusion into all our lives -- or just less intrusion into the lives of the ones who don't need assistance...It's a fair question to identify potential hypocrisy and fatal flaws in the logic behind their AGENDA....In other words, small gov't unless it's controlling low income people or people who are down on their luck.....And if the answer is that yes, it's ok because they are getting something from the gov't and therefore should be subject to restrictions, then couldn't that same argument be made for the gov't to dictate how you spend your tax refund check, or how you spend the money you save on your mortgage interest deduction, etc, etc...There's the question...So Answer it.

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10doubled(210 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

HEY REDEYE --- there are more people on welfare now mainly b/c bush destroyed our economy for 8 years...the president has literally saved this country from self destruction...so now you argue that not only is abuse of the food stamp system the dems fault, but also the fact that people need food stamps is the dems fault ---is that how it works for you?? Do us all a favor, learn the facts about 1).HOW and why we went through the great recession, and also 2). WHY we are now out of the great recession...I'll give you a hint...The gop had a lot to do with the first thing, not so much to do with the second. You should also uderstand that if it wasn't for your tea party - and the gutless gop that allowed their party to be hijacked -- our country would be much further along than it is right now....but we've proven that Americans will succeed, in spite of the tea party/gop, not because of them.

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11rocky14(762 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Could you see if we had elected McCain instead?
He would have sat on his hands and did nothing.No government interference.
The unemployment rate would be about20 or 25% by now.

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12redeye1(5054 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

doubled Lets start with the banking bail outs. Who passed the bills that made banks give out loans to undeserving buyers. The D party that's who. Big Bill Clinton and his old lady Hilliary pushed this through to give everyone the chance to own a house wheter they could afford or it not. They relaxed loan laws so much ,the banks had no other recourse but to do it. You are the one who should find the facts before you show how brainwashed your are. When the bail outs of the banks were given out. Who was controlling the Congress Don't know, well once again it was the D partyThe D party has only one solution to problems . That is throw money at it and hope it goes away. The GOP isn't spineless they are trying to bring this GREAT country back

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13redeye1(5054 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

double One other thing who signed the NAFTA bill. It was Bill Clinton!!!! That is what started the recession . Thats when companies started to move to foreign lands because of cheap labor costs..When the idea of taxing these companies who bring back their products that were produced over seas Ted Kennedy was the first to stand up and say NO to it. Facts are facts !!!!

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14jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

This is what happened in the last 2 yrs of the Bush administration
Jan3, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over The House Financial Services Committee & Chris Dodd took over theSenate Banking Committee.
Jan 3 2007 The GDP the previous quarter was 3.5%. The unemployment rate was 4.6%. Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION.
Bush asked Congress 17 times to stop Fannie & Freddie starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.
This is where our troubles began.

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15AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Bush destroyed the economy, then people lost their jobs, then they could not pay for their houses. Its a snowball effect, and ol' george started it all rolling.

Red, all you do is blame dems. Even when subway owners screwed their employees, you blames the dem's.

maybe I should start to agree with you. The REPUBS do nothing so they do nothing wrong.

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16rocky14(762 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago


It didn't matter if you voted for Clinton or Bush senior---both of them was going to vote for NAFTA.
By the way,corporations started going to Mexico before NAFTA

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17jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Another average citizen. Please tell us what President Bush did to destroy the economy.
In the last 2 yrs of the Bush adm. Your friends Pelosi & Reid controlled both Houses. They Barney & Chris Dodd took over the Banking & Financial Committees.
Talk about chaos - These 4 liberals sure had a hand in starting some of the chaos that followed.

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18rocky14(762 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago


The Bush tax cuts are the disaster that keeps on giving.
The dept would be at sustainable levels without them.

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19Lifes2Short(3879 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Blame whoever you want, bottom line is what this lady wrote, Abusing the system!!
It's pitiful to see some big fat lady with 5 kids buying steaks and ribs and brand name items in a overfilled buggy, especially the 1st of the month and using her EBT card and then you have hard working parents with one child buying hot dogs and bologna and generic items standing behind her with money from a honest days work. Is that fair?
And not to mention walking to the parking lot and such women unloading her FREE groceries in a almost brand new SUV with nice rims and stereo, and the hard working family to there beater 1990's vehicle with missing hubcaps. Is that fair?
All I can do is shake my head and pray for the honest working, law abiding families that really could use food stamps and help but don't get the benefits because there not lazy, pumping out babies just about once a month and on drugs.

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20Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago


Obama is the one who signed off on $800b bailout dollars to be dispersed to banks both domestic but mostly foreign, get your facts straight. And under Obama, the national unemployment has increased by 1.8% which I personally think is an imaginative figure - it's really much higher than that.

He also ended Posse Comitatus which gives the military full and complete power over citizens. Let's face it, our current leader is a warmonger and needs to be out of office. Don't get me wrong, Romney and Gingrich aren't breadwinners either.

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21Peregrine(47 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Just the facts--no opinion--the help wanted classifieds in the Vindicator are down to 1 sheet--4 pages--and at least 50% of that is advertising, dating sites and auctions. This is the worst it has been in at least 20 years. Where is the recovery?

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22rocky14(762 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

When Obama came into office,we were losing 750,000 jobs a month under Bush.
We are now creating 230,000 jobs a month.
You do the math.

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23Sunny(25 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

You know what? I don't CARE who did what when and to whom! All I care about is getting the system fixed and making it fair for the recipients who really need help and the taxpayers that are funding it. I honestly don't understand why everyone is so hung up on the finger pointing and blame. The past is the past. If I had my way, there wouldn't be a party of any kind. I'd rather have a President who cares about this country and its people enough to do what is good and right. I'd make lobbying obsolete. And I'd make sure that whatever benefits the people of this country has is also applicable to the House, Senate and President of the United States. I'd also make sure that welfare recipients perform 8 hours of work each day (after passing a drug test) as a laborer for the government. There are plenty of things welfare recipients can do to EARN that money and I'd be more than happy to give it to them until they get back on their feet. And I bet they WILL work harder to get back on their feet because I guarantee they'd make more money working for an employer of their choice.

Thanks for letting me express my views.

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24AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

valleyVoice. My facts are straight..

Nov, 2008. G W Bush was president.

Oct 3 2008.... http://www.wisebread.com/how-a-700-bi...

as soon as they lower taxes on the rich, jobs will come. Oh wait, they already lowered the taxes on the rich and they didn't create jobs.

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25DwightK(1369 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

So the Food Stamp Queen is oging to replace the Cadillac Queen in Republican dialogue? Are we to believe those with food stamps are filling up multiple buggies with high priced items like steaks and loading it into their Range Rovers while people to proud to get help buy hot dogs and drive their beaters? Really? Is that the story you want to spin?

If this were true, Fox News would have video and Karl Rove would be giving play-by-play commentary as the the Food Stamp Queen loaded her three buggies with filet mignon and gathered her brood in the check out line.

You can't have a rational discussion without facts.

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26jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Hey average citizen. Geo Bush was president in Nov 2008, but the House and Senate were controlled by Pelosi & Reid since Jan 2007. These 2 did anything they wanted with our money. Bush's hands were tied.

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27AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago


That has nothing to do with Blaming Obama for the bailouts. Bush was politicing for it.

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28AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Former ytown,
I don't care what you think.

Like the repubs running for president, all you have to say is, well NOTHING. Just point fingers and give no substance.

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29WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

@AAC, others

The Democrats took complete control of Congress in 2006 as well as the White House in 2008. For two years the Democrats had a super-majority and controlled every lever of government. The bottom line is that our country has been under predominantly Democrat control for almost six years.

Worst recession in a century; more Americans on food stamps than at any point in time; citizen approval at an all-time low; housing crisis completely overseen by Democrats in charge of every agency and committee involved.

Who has been driving the bus all this time? Democrats, sir. Democrats.

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