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1 student dead in stabbing at University of Toledo



Published: Thu, December 20, 2012 @ 12:52 p.m.

TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — A fight between two students in a mostly empty dormitory at the University of Toledo left one dead and another injured, police said today.

Both were stabbed in what authorities said was not a random attack. Police do not believe anyone else was involved.

The two men, who knew each other, got into a fight Wednesday night in a stairwell at the dormitory where they were staying during the school’s holiday break, authorities said.

Police and university officials stressed that the violence was an isolated incident and that the campus was safe.

“There’s nothing we could have done to prevent this,” said Jeff Newton, the university’s police chief.

The men’s names were not immediately released. The one who survived was found with several stab wounds outside the International House on campus, and the one who died was found about 10 minutes later, Newton said. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

No charges have been filed.

Ten students, including four student workers along with four staff members, were staying at the dormitory over the break.

Police said they sent out an alert to students, faculty and staff advising them there was a dangerous situation and to stay away from the dormitory.


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1Ytownnative(1055 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Time to ban all knives

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2HonestAbe(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

When someone with a knife can take out 15 people in a dark movie theatre, or take our 26 innocents in an elementary school (in less than 5 minutes), then you morons might have a point. Otherwise, take note of the old saying: Better to stay quiet and let others think you are stupid, than to speak (or in this case, write..), and prove it.

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3larrythewineguy(50 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Abe,
It must be wonderful to be so smart.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug...

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/A-shoc...

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/20...

Further, this very emotional discussion has already turned from the anomalous attacks on schools to the all too common daily homicides in urban areas such as the south and west sides of Chicago or the south side of Youngstown. Here is the point. Stabbing is the second most common form of homicide in this country. Creating laws to reduce the amount of knives will do nothing to change that statistic. Similarly, more gun laws will do nothing to prevent criminals and the insane from perpetrating violence on the innocent and unarmed. Mr. Lanza was bent on this insane act and no law was going to stop him.Perhaps an armed guard or teacher would've been a real deterrent?

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4TB(1167 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Putting guns into schools and around children will not make them safer. An armory has no place in a school.

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5larrythewineguy(50 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

TB,
Respectfully, I disagree. Malls, theaters and schools are targets for unstable individuals precisely because they are gun free zones. The perpetrators know they will find no resistance to their insane aggression. Please examine each of the recent tragic events for evidence. If the TSA (thousands standing around) can violate my Constitutional Rights at every airport visit in the name of the greater good, I suggest we employ returning military personnel and retired, capable law enforcement personnel to prevent future tragedies.

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6HonestAbe(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Adam's mother was a stupid gun nut. And while I hate to speak ill of the dead, she had to have some kind of inkling that something was seriously wrong with her son. Anyone who has a mentally deranged child should have those guns under lock and key. Could it have been prevented? Hell yes!!!

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7larrythewineguy(50 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Abe,
Enlighten me with your brilliance. Please tell me how this could have been prevented. By banning guns? Sorry, that just won't do in this country due to something called the Second Amendment of The Constitution. I am sure you disagree with the Second Amendment, but I challenge you and those like you to call for a Constitutional Convention to change it. So short of banning guns, please tell me how this could have been prevented? By the way, Mr. Lanza murdered his mother to access the guns. Though the CT police have made no statement to how the guns were stored, given how Mrs. Lanza treated guns and gun responsibility, they were likely under lock and key. Though she might have realized her son was in need to help for his mental instability, I am certain she did not expect to be murdered by her son. Again, the new normal demands armed guards in gun free zones.

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8rocky14(717 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

On the very same day that 26 people were killed by a gun in Conn.,22 kids and 1 adult were slashed or stabbed by a nut in a classroom in China.
NOT one child died nor the adult!
That's the difference.

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9Ytownnative(1055 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Larry
you can't bother these people with facts their way is the only way.

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10charms(228 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

This is a non-story for someone in Youngstown. The only reason it is publicized is because of what happened last Friday.

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11HonestAbe(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

If only the first victim, Adam Lanza's mother, had been a gun owner, she could have stopped this before it started. Hope that logic and irony isn't lost on you nitwits. And what about my constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Don't I have a right to be safe? And how many guns do you need to feel safe anyway? One? Twenty? One hundred and twenty? You foolishly think because you have guns that you will be safe from the boogey man. Hardly. When was the last time a mass murderer was stopped by an armed individual? Do you want the entire citizenry to be armed? Is that the kind of country you want to live in? I don't...and it appears that most Americans don't want to lived in an armed encampment, either. Perhaps it's some kind of macho thing with you people. Real men don't need semi-automatic weapons to take down a deer. And if you do, that makes you kind of a p*ssy in my book.

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12larrythewineguy(50 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Abe,
Save you histrionics for Oprah or Dr. Phil. Further, nothing like name calling to further your cause. I think I will keep this on an intellectual level. There is no irony in Mrs. Lanza's death. You continue to ignore the fact the Adam Lanza was going to kill and nothing was going to stop him other than an armed and trained person at the school. Fascinating that that guns sales skyrocketed the day after this tragic event. I wonder why that could be? As for the last time a mass murder was stopped by an armed person, how about Clackamas Mall in Portland...

http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man...

or how about Pearl MS in 1997...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Hi...

Abe, you haven't responded with anything other than emotional hysteria. You refuse to deal with facts and logic. You then resort to useless name calling. What a tough guy.

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13TB(1167 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Larry, I have no problem with police or security guards in schools. I think that's well-reasoned. I don't see much clamor for that well thought out response. I see people saying they don't want to pay for it or yammering about making teachers carry guns.

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14charms(228 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

TB,

Teachers SHOULD carry. Bingo! Problem solved!

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15HonestAbe(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Please explain to me why gun violence is so prevalent in America. I'd love to hear your rationale. The reason gun sales have spiked in the past week...are you kidding? Because these folks know serious and much needed gun control is going to be passed. Tell me...are you morons are OK with those innocents being killed? How do you sleep at night? Yep, more guns are the answer.

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16TB(1167 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Problem created, charms. Many many problems

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17uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

What a bunch of blow hard liberal commie socialists. Talking to you @HonestAbe. You folks don't make a shred of sense, cowards.

Let's cry about guns, waa waa.

I've never, once, ever, seen a gun kill someone. Guns don't get up, load themselves and go on benders. Idiots do.

If guns are sooooo bad then I want you to ask your local, county, state and federal police to disarm themselves. Hey, coppers in the UK mostly are unarmed aside from a club and some defense spray.

People are all mentally distorted over the gruesome and senseless shootings, but we are fine with over 1 MILLION US SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN BEING HOMELESS? Where's Obama's crocodile tears over that? Where are Joe Biden and his Catholic charities in outlawing abject poverty to the point of houselessness?

There are plenty of mass murders committed with knives, swords and other sharpened steel implements. Been going on since metallurgy started.

Beware of the semi-auto box knife. Or did we forget September 11, 2001, and major airplanes taken over by fools with "box cutters"?

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18excel(302 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

I see nothing mentioned about strangulation. This meathod of death can easily be prevented by a well placed gunshot to the attacker. Gun control for those using it for defense is defined as a clear mind and a steady hand.

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19larrythewineguy(50 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Old Dude,
Amen!

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20TB(1167 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

I guess having more guns around really works after all. It did at fort hood right?

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21larrythewineguy(50 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

TB,
Why would you make such an ignorant statement. I am not calling you ignorant, but your assertion clearly reveals you lack of knowledge of the Fort Hood shooting. As with all these mass shootings, the perpetrator selected unarmed targets, in this case in a military medical facility. Carrying side arms on base at Ft. Hood was prohibited other than for training. Hasan was felled by the first armed police officer he encountered. There were immediate calls to allow soldiers to carry their side arms following the shooting.

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22jeepers(127 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Publish a list of all knife owner's so we know where they live. More to the point, publish a list of all patients of mental facilities/psychiatrists/psychologists. This would do more to predict who is a risk for a rampage. Cross-reference the list of mental patients with that of gun purchasers and you would find a more logical listing of those at the most risk for killing innocents.

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