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‘He was a good boy’



Published: Tue, August 21, 2012 @ 12:00 a.m.

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A photo of Bryce and his sister that his mother, Jessica Linebaugh, posted on Facebook in May 2008.

By David Skolnick | skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

After finding her 8-year -old son Bryce murdered in his bed by a bullet that struck him while he slept, Jessica Linebaugh said she’ll never return to her Maplewood Court home.

Through tears, Linebaugh told The Vindicator, “I fear for my safety and the safety of my two other kids.”

Police are calling Shawn Ramone Wilson, 21, of Youngstown, a person of interest in the murder. Officers picked him up about 4 p.m. Monday on an unrelated probation violation, and he is being held in the county jail.

Police say they are continuing the investigation and may charge Wilson as early as today with Bryce’s murder.

Linebaugh, a Warren native, moved to 1404 Maplewood Court in Rockford Village on the city’s East Side two years ago.

“People go through hard times, and I had to live there,” she said of the lower-income housing complex.

About 1:15 a.m. Monday, Linebaugh said she and her boyfriend, Thomas Hight Jr., were in their living room on a couch talking to another couple when they heard about a half-dozen gunshots. (Police said the shooter fired as many as 12 rounds.)

The four dropped to the floor, and she then ran upstairs to check on her three children.

She went into the room her two sons share.

Jayvon Harris, 4, in the bottom portion of a bunk-bed, said he was shot.

It turns out, he was hit in the face with glass shattered by bullets, and was bleeding.

It was when Linebaugh looked in the top bunk at her son Bryce that she made a horrible discovery.

He was shot in the head and was dead.

The Mahoning County Coroner’s office said he died “as a result of a devastating gunshot wound to the head.”

“It was surreal,” Linebaugh said.

“It was like I was in a movie, a horror movie.”

In a frantic emergency 911 call, Linebaugh told a dispatcher, “My baby got shot in the head!”

Her 5-year-old daughter, Aniah Harris, sleeping in another room, was not injured.

Police don’t believe the murder was retaliation for an Aug. 7 shooting of three men a short distance from Bryce’s home or gang- related, said police Chief Rod Foley.

Also, Foley said police don’t believe Bryce or his home were the intended targets of the shooter.

Though Rockford Village has seen its share of violence over the years, it’s stepped up in the past few weeks — with this murder and the Aug. 7 shooting.

“It has been bad lately,” Linebaugh said.

The Aug. 7 shooting was on the corner of Dogwood Lane and Maplewood Court.

The latter is a small, dead-end street where Linebaugh, her three children and Hight lived.

Constance Hicks, who has lived on Maplewood Court for seven years, said she heard the rapid gunfire early Monday.

“It was going off real fast; around here, it’s not that uncommon,” she said.

“The mother was screaming, ‘He’s still breathing. Somebody do something.’ But there was nothing anyone could do.”

The Aug. 7 shooting occurred right outside her house, and Monday’s murder is across the street and a few doors down.

Hicks said she had to tell her 12-year-old son that his friend Bryce was dead.

“They’re a very nice family,” Hicks said. “They were always quiet. He was a good kid.”

Ammon Williams, a neighborhood child, couldn’t hold back the tears as he remembered his friend.

“We did a lot of things together,” he said.

“He was a fun kid to play with. I understand what happened, but it doesn’t make sense. It makes me feel scared.”

Other kids in the neighborhood also said they’re scared after Bryce’s murder.

Linebaugh described her son as “a wonderful kid. He was a good boy. He was really funny and had a great sense of humor. He loved to dance. He started to play pee-wee football and was getting good at it. He didn’t get to play his first game. He loved to go to church and loved his brother and sister.”

Like his mother, Bryce was born in Warren, and the family attended services at the Leavittsburg Church of God.

He was going into the second grade at Harding Elementary School.

After hearing about the shooting, one parent took her three daughters out of day care at the Center for Community Empowerment, located at Rockford Village’s activity center.

“I don’t feel safe with them here right now,” she said.

“I was shocked when I heard [about the murder]. I said, ‘I have to go pick my kids up.’”

The Rev. Willie F. Peterson, the CCE’s executive director and pastor at the nearby New Birth Kimmelbrook Baptist Church, said people need to do all they can to stop senseless violence such as Bryce’s murder.

“We’ve had two shootings in the area, but Rockford’s been a safe place,” he said. “It’s a shame we have to lose a child, specifically this way. He was a good kid. That was an intentional shooting. Someone wasn’t shooting in the air driving. It’s really bad to shoot and not know or care who you’re shooting.”

The pastor said the center offers programs for the very young to senior citizens as well as encourages those considering a life of crime to not head down that path and to provide opportunities to those who have committed crimes to turn their lives around.

The shooter used a semi-automatic assault rifle, possibly an AK-47, to fire six to 12 rounds into the boy’s house and a next-door neighbor, Foley said.

“It’s horrendous,” he said. “It’s just tragic. It’s random violence.”

The injury to the boy was horrific, Foley said.

“They are like military wounds,” he said.

“The weapon is one used in the military. That’s why the wound is so terrible.”

When police were called, the boy’s mother told them her son was upstairs and still breathing.

When officers arrived, the boy was dead, police said.

“It is truly a sad day when an innocent life is taken away in such a horrible fashion,” said Mayor Charles Sammarone.

Councilwoman Annie Gillam, D-1st, whose ward includes Rockford Village, called the murder “devastating. I’m just stunned by it. It wasn’t even the house the [shooter] was after. To kill a totally innocent child is horrible. There isn’t a word for it.”


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1I_AM_MEL(18 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

This is truly devastating news. I was in Pittsburgh today and several people at a bar I was at was asking about what happened to this child. I'm embarrassed to show my ID because it always incites uniqure conversation. With that said...why isn't there a police satellite office in this complex? With all the violence and disturbances why isn't there beat cops patrolling this neighborhood? Also, they should set up a checkpoint every so often to check for drugs and alcohol in cars! I had an aunt who died several years ago that lived her whole life in this project. Kimmelbrooks to "Rockford village." Before you judge her decision to stay you have to realize that her husband died in the 80s and that's all she could afford. Some people aren't there by choice.

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2IslandMike(748 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Mel,

The answer to your question is MONEY. Youngstown doesn't have enough tax revenue to put beat cops in every bad neighborhood in the city.

The crime is horrific and the sad part is that most people living in the bad neighborhoods are good and honest citizens. Unfortunately they are surrounded by pieces of trash like this clown. I hope that if this is the shooter that they put him in the general population when he gets to prison.

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3Bluewater(5 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

My Prayers to the families.... This is so sad...

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4whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Sorry for your Loss.

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5Iwannamove(61 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

this is really a parents worse nightmare my prayers to the family for them to heal

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6kensgirl(573 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Devastating, not only to this family but to the entire community. God rest this child's beautiful soul. We need to make an example of the trash that did this. I still say hang them in the public square. Of course the ACLU and liberals will argue his rights. Guess what? You don't have any rights when you commit a murder on an innocent child.

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7CongressWatcher(155 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

I feel sick inside imagining what this boy's family is going through right now. It is time for harsh measures to deal with such dysfunctional humans as the shooter. This is senseless and tragic, and makes one never want to go into the city again. Truly, I have sympathy for those who must live there.

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8Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

"The injury to the boy was horrific, Foley said."

How sad. No reason whatsoever for this senseless murder. Prayers go out.

They should take this POS little slimy cockroach to the back of the building and take care of business with him. He deserves nothing but pure hell the rest of his pitiful sorry a@# life. Useless DNA!

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9taxpayer1001(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

My heart and prayers go out to this family. It truly is so sad. Does anyone know if there is a fund set up for the funeral expenses? I'm sure if they lived there this poor mother doesn't have the income to bury him.

Vindy...something started yet that isn't published?

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10UNCOMMONSENSE(353 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

The residents of Youngstown and Mahoning county should be outraged over the death of this child. The Mayor's office and police chief's office should be flooded demanding a city wide police saturation crackdown. A meeting with the judges and jail should be held to make sure that we have room to get these thugs off the street.

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11CountryGirl51(189 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

My heart goes out to his family. What a horrible thing to have happen to your child.

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12excel(279 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

In the social structure of the projects drug dealers are at the top. They have prestige and deliver what the people demand. Dealers also have the money to buy flashy items guns included. To keep control they use these guns to make their point. Not long after each killing or shooting the presence of law enforcement diminishes and things return to normalcy. We look upon them as a wound that never heals and continue to feed the never ending cycle with our tax dollars.Somehow we can't find the cure. The voices for change are quickly drowned out with political pressure and we quickly decide that we can live with it. Change would be too traumatic.

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13HeMyPO(92 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Now, this makes me MAD !!! This guy was/is on Felony Probation !!! There was a Probation Violation filed and the JUDGE kept this POS on probation !!!!

Youngstown will NEVER change until they get Judges that aren't afraid to send these THUGS away for a LONG time !!!

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14kensgirl(573 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

We moved from the south side of Youngstown several years ago because one night my husband and I heard gunshots at 2am. We ran downstairs to see if our son was hit. Thankfully he was not. That week our house was on the market. Luckily we were able to move to a much safer neighborhood. Some people cannot afford to I understand that. Please God protect them and all of the other law abiding citizens of Youngstown. If there is a fund for this child please let all of us know. God bless his soul. He is now in heaven I am sure.

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15IslandMike(748 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Where were all you "SCREAMING MAD" people before this happened? Oh, that's right, you were trying to get the police officers to take pay and benefit cuts and you were voting against any and all county jail levy that was presented. Now, when something like this occurs you all want the worlds best police protection and you want to lock up thugs and throw away the key.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to be a cop in Youngstown? Let's see...You can put your life on the line for a couple bucks over minimum wage to deal with people who do nothing but complain about the poor job that an underfunded over worked police department does. You can make your family suffer through years of financial hardship and stress. You can work weekends and holidays while dealing with drunks, drug addicts, thieves, pimps and prostitutes. You can automatically be stereotyped as being dirt and corrupt. You can be sued by virtually anyone you have to use force on. You can deal with HIV and TB positive criminals who like to spit on you. That's just to name a FEW things you can look forward to as a member of YPD, the real bonus has to be knowing that you can be doing all that while your family goes without because you'll be looking at YEARS of wage freezes or raises that are below the cost of living. But boy when a TRADJEDY like an eight year old boy getting killed does happen, the same area tax payers who do nothing but complain about you being OVERPAID and doing a BAD job all of a sudden want "POLICE SATURATION."

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16UNCOMMONSENSE(353 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

IslandMike...nobody forced them to be police officers. If they do not like the pay they are free to find a better, safer job that pays them more. I respect the job Youngstown officers do given the element they deal with. The taxpayer also has a right to say how much they can afford to pay in taxes. We have enough resources, we just need to deploy them in a method that will drive these thugs out.

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17rhowell2759(1 comment)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

As a member of the family, I'd like to thank everyone for their support and prayers during this difficult time.

The Family is in the process of setting up a Memorial Fund for my 8 year old nephew Bryce to assist with the funeral costs. The Memorial information will most likely be released by the Trumbull County, Youngstown area TV stations.

It's a TRAGITY!!!! An innocent child child shot in the head, while he sleeps, by a military assault rifle...the same weapons our military use and fight with in Afghanistan and other military warfare!!! Senseless!!!

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18cambridge(2972 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

As long as people can commit a crime that calls for, say a 10 year prison sentence and plea bargain it down to 2 years or probation we will have people like the one that killed this little boy walking the streets.

One thing I did like about our old friend Stan was the criminal record of the shooter would be posted by now (Vindy ?). When you see cases like this with someone in their teens or early twenty's and you look a little closer you find pages and pages of arrest records with little or no jail time. In most cases like this, if the shooter had been prosecuted for their prior crimes they would still be locked up, the rest of us could feel safe in our communities and Bryce could be out playing ball with his buddies. :-(

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19zz3(921 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Islandmike your name explains it all. You have to be living on an island with thinking like that. This sad story happens because the gov't offcials and police just do not have the nerve to attack the situation because of the "Protests or Backlash" this community dishes out when you try to curb crime it these particular neighborhoods. And as far as the job of the police, they were not forced to take that job and they knew going in your not just going to deal with MaryKay representatives!!! If you work at McDonalds don't bitch about making hamburgs!!! GEEEEEEEEEEZ Thats why were in the shape we are is because of thinking like that. WOW, just all do your jobs, Judges, police, Children Services, DEA. (But that won't happen) And islandmike maybe we could save the money on playgrounds for these idiots, stadiums we don't need, etc and you'll have money for the things we really need. Sad story but unfortunately will not be the last i'm afraid. The people in charge need to step up!! I remember they did have neighborhood substations until they got windows broken etc then they gave up as usual and will continue. No wonder the mass exadus from here. Word to wise don't let yourself get to where you have to live with these cockroaches live within your means and job before kids

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20southsidedave(4777 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

My prayers and thoughts are with the family during this dark hour...to IslandMike above, a little boy was killed and all you can do is rant about the police? Show some respect to the family.

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21GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

OUTRAGE IS AN UNDERSTATMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our family IS LIVID and DISTRAUGHT by the warfare that exists in our community!!! This barbarity has altered our family dynamics forever…leaving a vast hole of despair and grieve!!! MAY GOD HAVE NO MERCY FOR THIS MONSTER…his actions were malicious and selfish!!!!! JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL!!! R.I.P sweet Bryce…Please keep Jessica and our family in your prayers. Jessica is a loving mother, and bright college student that endured a hardship. By "NO" means should any mother face these circumstances’ in her lifetime!!!! A despicable crime!!!

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22anothermike(203 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Don't hold your breath until Sharpton, Jackson or any of the other "preachers" come to town. How about the council member stating: it wasn't even the right house....wow, another case of "mistaken identity". Is that supposed to lessen the severity of the act as it seems to have done in the past?? How will this one be handled going forward? We will all be watching....

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23Fred(130 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Truly a tragedy that has directly affected two families.

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24dawn421(265 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

this is truly sad, a poor little child has died just like 10 yrs ago. do we all remember jessica? anther small victim of thugs shooting aimlessly? let me know where to contribute as i am more than willing, this takes priority over any other story in this paper and in this town. prayers for all the family

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25GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Contributions can be made to BRYCE A LINEBAUGH Memorial fund at Huntington Bank.

The calling hours for Bryce is Thursday 5-8 at Lane Funeral home Mineral Ridge,Canfield Niles Rd. The Funeral service for Bryce is Fri at 11:00 at Leavittsburg Church burial will be at the Pine Knoll Cemetery Following Church service

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26Ianacek(891 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

It's distressing to read of a child victim of an indisriminate shooting .

However , the high crime rate in Youngstown is a symptom of economic development & tax policy failures over decades. Saturation policing isn't a cure.
Policing is one of the few City functions that still works reasonably well .

Ultimately , its about jobs & incomes & making it easy for solid working families & small entrepreneurs to choose to move back to Youngstown ; now that most neighborhoods are reasonably safe. For these people , the high local income tax deters as much as blight. The City gives large tax breaks to the big end of town , so why not just reduce it for everyone ?

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27kensgirl(573 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Islandmike - you said it best. No one likes to hear the truth! What do you think those police officers did when they got home? Partied? No - they hugged their own kids and were grateful it wasn't theirs. I'm sure they cried an awful lot too. Please everyone - donate to this poor child's expenses. What a devastating crime by an animal without a conscience. Let's see who defends him!!!

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28IslandMike(748 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

There is a shortage of officers in Youngstown to fight the amount of crime the city has. If you have a college education and you're a highly qualified applicant wanting to pursue a career in law enforcement, where are you going to go? Youngstown?, or a department that pays double what you will make in Y'town with better benefits and less job stress? It's a FACT that YPD has tremendous turnover and they get the least desirable applicants. The moral of the story is that YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
The sad thing is that most people from the inner city are law abiding citizens. It always seems to be the younger generation that is attracted to the fast dollar and fast life with and end result that usually means prison or death. In this instance we are seeing an innocent life cut short too early and an ignorant young man heading prison.

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29bsdtwd(40 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Islandmike speaks the truth. Everyone wants the cops, fireman and EMT to show up in 2 minutes and yet not pay for it. 20 year olds on probation for their prior offenses and uselessness end up with the "standard issue" assault rifle and kill kids and people over high school level stuff. Real tough until they've thrown away their own life and face the consequences of their thug lifestyle. Just when you'd think this has to be the moment of truth for a community, it fades for a day or two, only to raise it's ugly head the next week with more of the same. Sad.

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30lumper(281 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

who was this guy shooting at ? if i was the family of bryce and my next door neighbor was the target- hmmmm.

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31Knightcap(682 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

I disagree IslandMike. You make it sound like the YPD is like a 7/11 convenient store with employee turnover. I went to school with three on the force and they have 20+years. Also, they are not least desirable, they all have good backgrounds and come from good families and have good families of their own.

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32Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

island

"It's a FACT that YPD has tremendous turnover and they get the least desirable applicants."

High turnover rate? You are sadly mistaken on that. I would love for you to go up to a YPD officer and tell him he was a undesirable applicant and especially YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR comment, to his face. smh

"......or a department that pays double what you will make in Y'town with better benefits and less job stress?"

Really? A place where a police officer don't have stress? Paid more? I really believe there is no such place that exists. smh

""It always seems to be the younger generation that is attracted to the fast dollar and fast life with and end result that usually means prison or death. In this instance we are seeing an innocent life cut short too early and an ignorant young man heading prison.""

Agree 100%

Once again, prayers going out to the family of Bryce.....

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33endthismess(303 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Do we need marshall law here?? Tanks in the street from dusk to dawn?? Need to call in the National Gaurd? This child was a real part of the world. Don't let this child die in vane. Come on mayor...do SOMETHING!

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34USMC0331(150 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

@ kensgirl

You couldn't be more right. No one knows how right you are. THANK YOU so much for posting that!!!!

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35bmanresident(597 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Three years ago today Shawn received a charge of endangering children in Boardman while getting an OVI. What a pathetic fool.

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36bmanresident(597 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

http://www.facebook.com/shawn.wilson....

Just in case anyone would like to see what an Upstanding citizen this deuce bag is

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37GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

PLEASE Support the family and community by attending the "STOP THE VIOLENCE CANDLE LIGHTING IN REMEMBERANCE OF BRYCE A. LINEBAUGH" THURSDAY EVENING 9:00 PM. At the Rockford Village Apartments. THANK YOU!

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38taxpayer1001(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Gianna, sad to say but not many people will want to be driving to and from that area during the day, but especially at night. Please know that the community is still praying for this family and does care about what happened to this precious child.

And to everyone please donate something to the memorial fund at Huntington bank in bryce's name to help with costs.

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39TGWTG1209(5 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

This story is tragic & my thoughts & prayers go out to this family.

But at the same time, if this was an 8-year old black kid who was shot & killed, would there be so many users on here commenting about who sad & tragic this case is? Again, this is a horrendous crime & the comments are obviously appropriate, but I can't help but think back to about 4 years ago when the Crawford arson happened, there were users on here saying crap like "Michael Davis for mayor" & "They got what they deserved".

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40GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

PLEASE…understand, by NO means do I believe this is a race issue. I don’t want to lose focus that this was a cold blooded, premeditated, calculated murder of an INNOCENT child by a clear aggressor. The evidence is compelling and JUSTICE will be served in due time!! I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative to investigate every aspect of this vicious crime and that everybody pulls together – federal, state and local – to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened. What some people are saying about the race card, in a sense, is disgraceful….Any young American of ANY ethnic background should be safe, PERIOD!!! We should all be horrified no matter what the ethnic background. At some point, we ought to talk about being Americans. When things go wrong to an American, it is sad for all Americans!!! Trying to turn it into a racial issue is fundamentally wrong. I really find it appalling!! The murder of my nephew (BRYCE) should NOT be inconsequential because of where he lived or anyone’s ethnicity! PLEASE, LET US STAY FOCUSED ON THE CRIME COMMITED and the CRIMINAL THAT COMMITTED IT.
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41taxpayer1001(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Gianna, I am so glad you commented to that, and perfectly said I might add. This isn't about color or race. This is an innocent child killed for no reason. My prayers go out to you and your family.

TGWT-please don't try to cause more damage by making it racial. Many didn't even know his race or color until pics were published. I know I didn't and never said a word about color before or after.

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42GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

>>Taxpayer 1001
You are correct and I Thank you. I understand your apprehensiveness’ about going to that deprived area/community. However, this is for the family of BRYCE and the community that he knew. If it were up to me I would be holding the candlelight vigil on the stairs of the Mahoning County Court House or better yet in the Not-So-Honorable Judge Lou A. D' Apolito's front yard of his Boardman residence. Being that he was the judge that put this cold blooded murder back on the streets not one time but three times. Three strikes...he should be OFF the bench!! He has failed his community !!

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43ohdrama0901(53 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Rest in Paradise young Bryce

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44Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

TW

Are you serious? What a pathetic little fool you are. Quit the race baiting and give it up. It's getting old. Move forward in life not backwards. Save your comments for who cares, which would be no one except the race baiters. smh at such stupidity in society today.

I'm going to try to make the candlelight vigil tonight for Bryce.

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45taxpayer1001(274 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

"or better yet in the Not-So-Honorable Judge Lou A. D' Apolito's front yard of his Boardman residence. Being that he was the judge that put this cold blooded murder back on the streets not one time but three times."

That would be awesome if a vigil could be there. Unfortunately this judge probably thinks he did nothing wrong

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46GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

>>> TW.....Thank you!!! ALL support from the community is greatly appreciated and I know Jessica will be appreciative during this time of “GREAT LOSS” and bereavement.

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47GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Sorry...the previous post was intended for >>>>Life2Short... Thank you!!

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48Eagles2005(1 comment)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Of course, I knew that someone would have to bring up "race". Gianna & Taxpayer, you are absolutely correct. The bottom line is the little boy that lost his life and how his family is going to cope. My heart breaks for them. Rest in piece, Bryce.

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49GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

The community support for Bryce at the candle light vigil was AMAZING. I am so remorseful that Jessica has to endure the torturous anguish of burying her 8 year old son Bryce TODAY!!! I recognize nothing can take her heartache and agony away, but maybe with the passing of time the sharp edges of unrelenting pain and grief will soften. DYING IS NOT NATURAL. Death was not part of God's plan for us, thus we are rightly devastated. Community support is reassuring, comforting and heartening!! I plan to continue supporting my family and without hesitations!! Please support the family at the funeral today…comfort Jessica for she is fragile. Your many thoughts and prayers are SOOOO appreciative!! Preserving Bryce’s legacy will take a village.

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral,
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy.
Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it.
Through violence you may murder the liar,
but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth.
Through violence you may murder the hater,
but you do not murder hate.
In fact, violence merely increases hate.
So it goes.
Returning violence for violence multiplies violence,
adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness:
only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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50Fred(130 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

The killing of Bryce Linebaugh has nothing to do with civil rights or the the civil rights movement.It is only proper and fitting to look upon his death as a criminal act. The ultimate decision as to the fate of the one who took his life rests with a judge and jury.

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51GiannaBean(21 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

My intention is NOT to make it a civil rights movement. The quote is one that I admired for many, many years and has always been close to my heart. I realize HIS death IS a criminal act and the perpetrator will pay for the monstrosity!!!! HE MURDERED A CHILD IN COLD-BLOOD for Heaven’s sake!!

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52oldsouthhighwarrior(23 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

Fred said two family's affected. I hope he's not talking about the shooter. His gang family does not care. My hope is that his mother will never see him again. Kensgirl you are so right. I know one of the cops who was there. He told me how bad it looked. Was he affected very much so. Did he go party after No. Did he hug his kids you bet. Youngstown what happen to the town that I take pride in saying I grew up there. To the LITTLE BOYS family it will always be hard. Please stay strong,

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53WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

When only criminals have guns, only criminals can do the shooting. This is another horrid example of what happens when the bad guys have arms and run unchecked through the streets. The solution is more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens, armed citizen patrols and extreme prejudice against the bad guys. It is time to stand up, arm yourselves and protect your children from harm. More police *may* be part of a solution but you don't need police to protect you if you protect yourselves. The citizens in this neighborhood need to put arms in their hands, as is their Right, and be ready to use them.

Freedom is ugly and it costs something. Sometimes it costs putting your life on the line and standing against evil and in defense of good. More arms in the hands of the good guys (police fall into this category too), more shots coming from the good guys and more bullets hitting the bad guys will solve this problem quickly. If just one thug gets shattered by a well-placed shot they will all scatter like the cockroaches they are. Make no mistake about it- this is a war between the good guys and bad guys. The good guys should arm themselves, train themselves, patrol their spaces and demolish these bad guys with overwhelming power, dedication and intolerance to their evil ways. Make your neighborhood a dangerous place for bad guys. Sorry for everyone's loss. Now direct that anger where it belongs and get those bad guys. Root them out and spill their blood in the streets- in self defense of course.

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54jaycat(8 comments)posted 1 year, 11 months ago

I loved growing up in my Youngstown...the y-town of the 60's and 70's...the days when you could walk to your friends houses and come home after dark without fear...the days of WHOT at Idora and Borts pool...Sadly as I got older, I saw the path the city was taking and knew I did not want to raise my son here. I am glad we moved to a rural area, where he was free to have a childhood comporable to mine. I still mourn for my city, and the good people who still live there....to be afraid where you live...I can't imagine anything worse....

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55zz3(921 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

People not expecting better from officials and police department+lack of effort=what we have

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56USMC0331(150 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Huh?

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