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YSU faculty at odds with administration over salaries used in fact finding

Published: Thu, September 8, 2011 @ 10:09 p.m.

YOUNGSTOWN — Youngstown State University’s faculty union says the administration is unfairly comparing the university to small, private schools to make a case that the faculty is not underpaid.

A YSU spokesman contends that comparison is only part of the picture that the university presented in fact-finding.

As the administration and the YSU chapter of the OEA go back into talks Friday, the union is complaining that the administration selected only data that made its case in the fact-finding process.

The university offered a list of schools that offer master’s programs in Ohio. Out of 11 schools on that list, only YSU is a larger public university. The others are small, private colleges ranging in enrollment from 1,545 to 11,119, and their average salaries are less than YSU’s, said Sherry Linkon, spokeswoman for the OEA.

YSU’s enrollment is 15,084.

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1AtownAugie(873 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

And the Linkon-Russo Debacle continues to embarrass the cummunity....

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2AtownAugie(873 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago


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3NoBS(2688 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Go play in traffic, Augie. The university's administration are the ones who are embarrassing not only the community, but themselves as well. They searched all over and found a list of colleges that they feel will skew the numbers sufficiently. Problem is, they're not comparable at all. First, they're all private institutions, whereas YSU is a public, state-funded university. Second, each and every one of them is smaller, by student count and every other criteria, than YSU. One of them doesn't even have a tenth of the student population YSU does.

If the YSU faculty wanted to play the same game, they could use Ohio State, UCLA, and the like. You'd howl about that, wouldn't you? So why is it OK for the administration to pull the same shenanigans?

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4AtownAugie(873 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

@ allBS: I agree with your argument re private vs public colleges. Since private schools use little-to-no public monies, no one argues that they can pay their staff whatever they like. Public institutions get most-if-not-all of their funding from the taxpayer -- US! -- and thus have a social obligation to be much more frugal. Or did I misundersand your "logic?" Forgive me if I did -- traffic is a'movin' spritely.

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5LeoFibanacci(19 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Any entity that uses public monies should actually pay less than private ones. Maybe the YSU faculty would prefer to compare their salaries to MIT, Stanford, and Yale?

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6Spiderlegs(160 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Independent of what one thinks about YSU faculty, the criticism of the faculty about the administration's use of small private colleges as benchmarks is fair. The university's institutional research office already has a list of universities that are used in benchmarking performance. I can see not comparing YSU to Ohio State or Kent (or MIT, Stanford, etc.), but the common practice is to compare with like institutions and the administration has already has a list of schools having similar characteristics. Otherwise, YSU administration could use a low-quality, for-profit institution like the University of Phoenix as a model and just make everybody an adjunct, in which case YSU should just close the doors.

You can find the peers online at:

The situation obviously has to go to federal mediation or arbitration, because it is clear that the administration is no longer negotiating in good faith.

(Keep in mind that the state's proposal for entrepreneural colleges and universities may require YSU to RAISE its standards to compete.)

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7UNCOMMONSENSE(615 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

The size of the university is just one factor in determining salaries. The most important factor however is the financial situation of the university to afford such salaries. Unfortunately, with the current economic situation, I would side with the administration.

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8candystriper(575 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Will the administration contract out all online courses that YSU offers?

.. As the online courses grow will they reduce the cost of tuition with fewer professors?

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9athena62600(8 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Linkon-Russo need to shut it! This whole fight is exactly what the governor wants so he can make a point about SB5. YSU IS NOT HARVARD OR YALE! WAKE UP! I was suppose to start at YSU this semester for my Masters and I decided to attend another college instead. Even though I am paying slightly more for an out of state college, it is better than dealing with this BS. Guess what faculty.... no students, no jobs!! You can be replaced. I know a lot of people who have been applying for jobs at YSU and would be thankful to have your jobs. If you don't like the way things are going..... LEAVE! It's that simple! I know for a fact that there are over 100 people on that campus taking buyouts this year. Why don't you join them

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10Tigerlily(509 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Oh really, athena, goddess of wisdom? You were "suppose" to start at YSU this semester for your Masters? Hmm, from the way you write and reason, sounds like you need to go back and redo your Bachelors. Or maybe high school?

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11Tepee(7 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Why do online colleges charge the same tuition when the average instructor time per semester is 10 hours of interaction in a country where the minimal wage is just $2 per hour?

I mean, just who is getting this money?

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