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No need for Issue 2

Published: Sun, October 30, 2011 @ 12:00 a.m.

Is Issue 2 good for Ohio?

By Sgt. T.J. Assion

Police work is more than a skilled trade and more than a profession. It is a way of life. What law enforcement officers go through “on the job” carries over into our personal lives. For the most part, it makes us better parents, better neighbors and better citizens. Law enforcement is unique in and of itself. A private sector counterpart to a police officer does not exist, because there is no comparison to what we do. In Ohio, a collective bargaining law has existed that has allowed us to negotiate with our elected officials, where we can discuss more than just salaries and benefits. We use collective bargaining for items such as staffing levels and safety equipment. These are items we take seriously, because we know better than an elected official what it takes to keep our communities and each other safe.

Law enforcement is inherently dangerous. And Senate Bill 5 makes it so much more dangerous. If SB 5 were only about public employees paying 10 percent into our pensions and 15 percent toward our health care, then there would be no problem. Approximately 93 percent of all public employees already pay that much, if not more, toward their pensions and the average public employee pays at least 15 percent toward their health care. Police officers, firefighters, teachers, nurses and other public employees are problem solvers. When a recession occurred in 2008 and our elected leaders asked us to help with this problem, we stepped up to the plate. During this time, public employees in Ohio have made concessions totaling $1.06 billion. These figures can be verified from the Ohio State Employment Relations Board, whose members are made up of Gov. Kasich’s appointees.

Proponents of SB 5 call it “reasonable reforms” and “necessary tools.” They will tell you that police officers will still be able to negotiate for safety equipment and staffing levels. This is a bold faced lie. It states that if management chooses not to, then the topics of safety equipment and staffing levels become illegal to discuss. This means that politicians get final say concerning the safety of our communities, not the professionals doing the job.

Middle class

SB 5 contains language that is in no way designed to help solve Ohio’s revenue shortfall, but only breaks the backs of working, middle class people. The governor and the other elected officials do not care about your safety, the quality of the education that our children receive or for your rights. They talk about shared sacrifice, yet they exempted themselves from the provisions of this bill and to add insult to injury, gave their staffers five-figure pay raises and bonuses. And they want to destroy the private sector next.

Public employees have proven time and again their willingness to solve the financial problems of our communities while at the same time ensuring that quality service remains. Please stand with your police officers and fire fighters. Voting no on Issue 2 will keep help protect you and your family.

Sgt. T.J. Assion is president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 141, which represents Mahoning County deputies. Hew wrote this on behalf of the Mahoning County Democratic Party.


1VindyPost(436 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago


Vote NO On Issue 2 !


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2Philo(99 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

If you are a younger, less senior public sector union member, or a loved one of that individual, you really should think about voting yes on Issue 2. The unions and the senior union members who are pushing to recall SB5 aren't going to be the ones who are laid off if issue 2 fails. It'll be you or your loved one. In fact, the senior public sector union members are better off without you or your loved one around. It increases their chances for overtime pay. Heck, they won't even accept reasonable concessions to keep you or your loved one on the payroll. Union members eat their own young and your senior union brothers care only about themselves. How many times have you heard them say, "I've paid my dues, now you pay yours?" They know and you know this is true. When you go in that voting booth and close the curtain behind you do the smart thing. Save your job. Vote yes on Issue 2.

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3Phil_EngAmer(32 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

There’s no need for compensation reform? States all across the country are implementing reform. You’re seeing it typical “blue” states like Connecticut and New York introduce public sector reform (http://eng.am/qh2i1T), and Ohio is far worse off in unfunded liabilities than those two states (http://eng.am/p9JEUG).

The state most worth looking at in terms of a comparison is Rhode Island. When you take the amount of money in liabilities and divide it by population you get a number that almost identical to that if you did the same with Ohio. As has been made abundantly clear recently; Rhode Island is in disaster mode (http://eng.am/vAkntd). One city has already declared bankruptcy and the whole state may not be far behind.

Rhode Island continued to ignore the mounting problem, and should no legislation come to pass in Ohio, they seem to be heading for a similar fate. You would hope that a massive economic catastrophe wouldn’t be the thing that would force voter’s hands. You would hope that fair compensation in the public sector would be enough of a motivating factor, but it seems the rhetoric machine has done a good job in manipulating the issue and steering it away from fiscal responsibility.

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4ohio48(17 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

VOTE YES ON ISSUE 2 ~ Help our state get into fiscal health! We need a reasonable balance between union worker's rights and the citizen's ability to support growing costs.

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5Oop81269(16 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Let me give you some info directly from SB5. If an employee is SUSPECTED of taking part in a strike he forfits TWICE his daily pay for those days that he is SUSPECTED of having taken part in the strike, but, it is up to the employee to PROVE that he did not take part in the strike (what if he was in the hospital) and has to sign a sworn affidavit and go to court to get his money back. 12 People APPOINTED by the Governor, President of the Senate, and the Speaker of the house; all of these get paid out of THE SCHOOL EMPLOYEES HEALTH CARE FUND and reimbursed for all "operating expenses paid for out of THE SCHOOL EMPLOYEES HEALTH CARE FUND and according to Ohio Revised Code 124.15 which means that the can make as much as $32.00 per hour for a 40 hour week and they don't pay for their health care because they are state appointees and get it for FREE! (2) Members shall receive compensation fixed pursuant to division
(J)(A) of section 124.15 of the Revised Code and shall be reimbursed from
the school employees health care fund for actual and necessary expenses
incurred in the performance of their official duties as members of the board. THEN there are another 18 bureaucrats appointed to watch over these 12, all with the same free ride. Oh and I almost forgot, They also get to hire their own aides and these get paid for out of the SCHOOL EMPLOYEES HEALTH CARE FUND. For each and every profession listed in these adds they are going to add more bureaucrats that will cost even more tax payer money. How does any of this sound right to you? Don't beleive me?
OK, here is something to actually read.
At the very least make an educated vote and don't be one of the "sheepeople" blindly following a political party. Here is a link to all 304 pages.
Project Vote Smart condensed version.

And this page will link you to all the ballot issues in Ohio.

This page allows you to look up all the Ohio Revised Codes that the are talking about.

Copy and paste these links into your browser. Get informed. Make an informed vote!

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