It’s Kasich who builds barriers

We are almost to the end of one acrimonious, hate-filled year, with three more to go.
Sigh. If you ever thought your vote doesn't count, this situation is proof that it does. Careless voting landed us with this governor. Many people wish they could take that vote back, but of course it's already done its damage.

^^ Exactly EducationVoter, So True^^

Ohioians need to be so cautious and extra-vigilant of this man. . .Very dangerous decisions that affects all.
His shady character and deceiving pesonality means trouble from all criteria. Look-out, this is WILD RIDE everyone prays to get off of. Our future in Ohio depends on US.

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VOTE NO On Issue 2!

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As someone who belonged to a union many years ago, it pains me to see that not much has changed. A great deal of the individuals who write in to support the repeal of SB 5 must either be public sector union members with a great deal of seniority, or the family members of senior public sector union members. IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A YOUNGER UNION MEMBER YOU BETTER LISTEN UP. No one, including your Business Agent, will dispute the fact that union members “eat their own young.” Teachers, police, and firemen nearly always vote to see their less senior union brothers laid off, rather than have everyone accept even a modest reduction in pay and benefits to keep everyone working. Then, these senior public sector police, teachers, and firemen have the audacity to complain about unsafe or difficult working conditions. In the end, the junior union members and their families are left to bear the burden.

If I happened to be a younger public sector union member or the family member of a lower seniority public sector union member, I’d think real hard about supporting SB 5. It’s nearly impossible to get a levy passed now and If SB 5 is recalled many believe there will be a voter backlash. If voters see that the one tool they had to keep costs under control is taken away, they may never support another levy no matter how badly the money is needed. If that occurs it may be years before a levy in your area gets passed. In the interim, your senior union brethren will continue to demand their raises, step increases, and benefits (and they’ll expect you to go out on strike and continue paying higher and higher union dues) to make sure they get them. As budgets continue to tighten more layoffs will occur. Unfortunately, they ain’t gonna lay off Bubba who’s been sitting on that forklift for the past 30-years, are they? And worst of all…. no matter how hard you work, no matter how well you prepare a lesson plan, no matter how you improve your qualifications, no matter how lazy or inept Bubba is, no matter what…..if Bubba got hired the day before you did, then you're screwed. Great system, huh? Explain that to your kids on Christmas morning.

The senior union members, the union officials who collect your dues, and even the Democrats who siphon those dues back into their system will all tell you to “wait your turn; you’ll eventually get your reward; don’t rock the boat.” Wake up Sparky! The system is unsustainable and guess what; THEY KNOW IT! This public sector union boat is going to sink regardless of the outcome of Issue 2. Public sector unions won’t survive until your turn at the table comes around and your senior union brothers don’t care. They just want this to last long enough to get their piece of the pie.

If you’re a newer public sector worker, or the family member of a newer public sector worker do yourself a favor and vote to preserve your job. Vote YES on SB 5.

Philo is that why 6 straight public unions in Youngstown have negotiated pay freezes? Because the senior union members are trying to eat the less tenured union members by making sure they work with the city to not increase spending?

Philo,
The job of union leadership is to keep as many employed as possible. That's why unions in the public sector ARE bargaining give backs. YSU, Canfield taking pay freezes, Youngstown city 7 years with out pay increases and increased healthcare co-pays. That is eating the younger members of the unions, isn't it?
If SB5 passes and Bubba is a close friend or great Kiss%$s to the boss, he will keep his job and the employee of the year will be let go.
If you are a middle class worker, private or public, its in your best interest, its in Ohio's best interest to vote NO ON SB5!
Kasick WILL NOT STOP WITH PUBLIC UNIONS. hE WANTS TO GET AS MONEY MONEY FROM OHIO TAXPAPERS FOR HIS FRIENDS. In fact, Kasick and his relationships with the private sector is a prefect example of why SB% is not needed so we are all protected from GREED!!!

Philo: Youngstown city UNION firefighters took 3 year pay freeze 3 years ago, and just took ANOTHER 3 year pay freeze to PROTECT THEIR YOUNG!!! So, your theory about unions old eating their young is bull s$$t!!! Also, city firefighters UNION agreed in 2008 to reduce starting wages for entry level firefighter so they could help with city fiances, AND HIRE AND OBTAIN YOUNG FIREFIGHTERS!!! Again, you theory tested and busted! Please, dont write until you have all the facts! See, philo, this is a prime example of the misinformation that is SB5... VOTE NO, ISSUE2........... it is full of misinformation.

Supporters of the public sector unions would have you believe that the government will be targeting private sector unions next, in hopes that they too will support the recall of SB 5. It's a desperate attempt to mislead the voters by desperate individuals clinging to a system that outlived its usefulness decades ago. This Mahoning Valley pro public sector union mindset is difficult to comprehend. Fortunately, we're in an isolated pocket of the state. We are not in the Gulag and no one can force you to work anywhere for any reason. If you don't like the way the city, or county, or school district treats you then quit and go somewhere else. No one is holding a gun to your head. If the city wants to pay a patrolman $25,000 per year and no one applies for the job, then the pay will go up, right? What am I missing here? Its like the free market system works everywhere but the public sector. They're special. Fortunately, even if SB5 is recalled, the Republican led legislature has new laws ready to be enacted that will help protect the honest, hard working private sector tax payers of Ohio from the greedy public sector union members.

Philo, let's pretend you actually have a job and are earning your family's living. What you claim you want is for your boss to just arbitrarily decide one day to cut your pay by 50%. Nothing you can do about it - but the job market will level itself, right? You can just go somewhere else, right? Oh, yeah, there's more in the equation than just you - there's the wife and kids, and your mortgage, car loans, and much more.

You may think you sound like a tough guy with your "like it or leave it" nonsense, but what you actually sound like is just another non-thinking drone, who's never been there, never done that.

It must be a terrible burden to wake up every morning thinking, "I hope the union can protect me today, because deep down, really deep down, I know I'm really not worth what they're paying me and there are others who would be glad to do it better for less." I pray that my children and their children don't fall prey to this self-deprecating pattern of thought. And oh, by the way, I've been tremendously successful by any measure you wish to choose, financial or otherwise.

Generally speaking raises are provided when the employer is the recipient of increased income from year to year. This also assumes that expenses do not increase disprportionately.

I am not a master of Youngstown's budget, but I don't believe it is the recipient of increased cash flows. If that is the case it makes it difficult to offer employees raises.

Generally speaking when you raise prices, without increasing the value of goods and services provided, you lose customers. Through tax increase, the City of Youngstown has increased prices and lost customers, forcing the city to raise taxes again, and lose more customers.

Union or no union, collective bargaining or not, if the money is not there, the raises won't come. You might force things for a while, but the well does run dry. When the well runs dry, you get forced into wage freezes.

You might try some collective thinking on how to bring more revenue to the city without losing customers, instead of collective bargaining.

Yes they do Jessie,
Just not on this issue...............

great food for thought NoBS

Why is OK for Gov Kasich to give double digit raises, when the state is broke? But it is not Ok for teachers, fire, police to get raises when the state is broke.

Many unions are taking pay freezes while the good Ol' boys in columbus get raises.

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I see how it works. Merit pay??

Before voters decide on SB5, I just watched the news on the debate in columbiana, and boy do they lie! SB5 is a very large bill with so many restrictions, that the republibs only pick a few to talk about. To every one out there, please, get a copy and read the WHOLE bill sponsered by Shannon Jones. It so full of oppression. Once and for all, the law will not curb spending, and IT WILL NOT CREATE JOBS!!!!!! OK, wait.......... I am wrong!! It WILL create jobs......... Good long standing employees WILL be fired. Why?? because if law passes, they can, only to be replaced with butt kissers, and Johns cousins Brothers friends cousins sister, and so on...........If those not sure about the vote would just read the WHOLE law, it would be defeated easily. Its actually rediculous to read, and insulting.

Philo: Are you saying that it would be ok for you if you went to work one day, and your employer cut your pay by 50%, and you would be ok with that?? I would LOVE to hire you! Easy cheap labor bait for me!! ahh............ welcome to SB5, my friend............VOTE NO ON 2!!! $ave yourself Philo

Jessie,
So there we have. You cheer for cheaters! No offense to smart folks that are educated on the facts of SB5 that happen to support the second best college football team in Ohio........you being the first