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70 turn out at Youngstown rally to reject Issue 2

Published: Thu, October 6, 2011 @ 12:07 p.m.

YOUNGSTOWN — About 70 people rallied today urging voters to reject state Issue 2, which restricts collective bargaining for public employees.

We Are Ohio, the main organization opposing Issue 2, made a stop on The People’s Road Trip at Oakhill Renaissance Place, the new location of the Mahoning County Board of Elections.

Doug Stern, a Cincinnati firefighter featured in a We Are Ohio television commercial, said the ballot issue, if passed, would put public safety in jeopardy and adversely impact citizens.

Those at the rally were encouraged to vote early at the elections board. About 25 of them did today.

For the complete story, read Friday’s Vindicator and Vindy.com


1AtownAugie(884 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

"We Are Ohio" are funded by the same national left-wing organizations that funded "We Are Wisconsin." The Badger State public unions found out months ago in the Wisconsin elections what the Ohio public unions will find out in November: "We The People" have grown weary of your childish tantrums.

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2PAborn(21 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

dodge: It's a workday - public employees are ON THE JOB!!!!!!!


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3AnotherAverageCitizen(1193 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago


Did you go wake the driver up? Did you inform his employer? What did you do, let him sleep?

Yes I agree, public employees do WORK for a living. Not all can show up at everything. There will probably many of these rallys soon to come.

I don't see 70 private working thugs showing up anywhere.


Vote NO on issue 2

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4Phil_Eng_Amer(10 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

The problem in Ohio, is much like the problem we’re seeing elsewhere across the country. Compensation is out of balance. Nationwide we’re seeing that while private sector compensation is falling in the current economic downturn, public sector compensation is seeing raises (http://eng.am/pn5weF). In Ohio we’re finding that public sector employees are earning 43% more in total compensation than private sector employees (http://eng.am/pFPawi).

Would SB5 fix this problem? Almost certainly, but is it going too far? We’ve seen legislation in New York be introduced to account for these types of issues (http://eng.am/qWM5LG), but while some unions have agreed to it, others voted against it, and instead choose to take on layoffs (http://eng.am/pEXFBf). A 7% layoff notice is no small thing, but when you have a system where LIFO dictates layoffs, it’s really not all surprising to see a majority of workers feeling confident that they won’t be laid off, so they have problem voting to slash their workforce in exchange for their benefits.

You would hope leadership would push a plan that saves jobs, but it just doesn’t seem to be the case. So many of Ohio and other states problems to could be alleviated by bringing compensation back to even levels. If not SB5, some sort of reform must be called for. Otherwise the state and its workers will continue to suffer, and you’ll push cities closer and closer to insolvency (http://eng.am/rrfynn).

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5Philo(99 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

If I were a younger public sector union member I’d think real hard about supporting SB 5. It’s nearly impossible to get a levy passed now and If SB 5 is recalled many believe there will be a voter backlash. If voters see that the one tool they had to keep costs under control is taken away, they may never support another levy no matter how badly the money is needed. If that occurs it may be years before a levy in your area gets passed. In the interim, your senior union brethren will continue to demand their raises, step increases, and benefits (and they’ll expect you to go out on strike and continue paying higher and higher union dues) to make sure they get them. As budgets continue to tighten more layoffs will occur. Unfortunately, no matter how hard you work, no matter how well you prepare a lesson plan, no matter how you improve your qualifications, no matter how lazy or inept your Senior union brother is, no matter what…..if he got hired the day before you did, then you're screwed. Great system, huh?

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6taxme(361 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Cut doctors incomes by 10% and all the problems go away. Lower health care premiums. Also make all these people who go and have plastic surgery and then have problems and end up in the emergency rooms be liable for the resulting expenses that insurance companies pay for that are passed on to us.
Vote no on issue 2! Power to the people!
Cost of health care is the real problem not teacher's, firemen, and and police!

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