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Warren protesters: Regulate massage parlors



Published: Thu, November 3, 2011 @ 12:03 a.m.

By Ed Runyan

runyan@vindy.com

WARREN

Councilwoman Cheryl Saffold and members of the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative demonstrated at Courthouse Square on Wednesday night to urge Law Director Greg Hicks and his staff to discuss regulating the city’s 10 massage parlors.

“It is a well-known fact that Asian massage parlors are often fronts for prostitution and often involve human trafficking,” said local resident Isabel Seavey, a member of an MVOC committee.

“Are you aware that the city of Warren has 10 recreational massage parlors, the same number as gas stations? There are 23 recreational massage parlors in the entire state of Ohio. We have 10 of them,” she said.

“We do not know with 100 percent certainty that there is trafficking in these parlors, but they have all the signs,” she continued.

“There are buzzer entry systems. The windows are boarded over or blacked out. They are open from 9 a.m. to 3 a.m. on weekdays and 24 hours on weekends. They do not allow entry to women.”

When Hicks and his staff were presented with seven suggested additions to Warren’s massage-parlor regulations, they dismissed the five most important ones, and they have refused to discuss the reasons why, said Jodi Macina of Warren.

Among the recommendations were prohibiting operations between 10 p.m. and 8 a.m. and requiring each therapist to show documentation that she or he has completed at least 100 hours of training from a certified massage association.

“Warren has the unwanted distinction of being a massage-parlor haven and praised by many on sex tourism websites,” she said.

At a meeting in June, Hicks said some of the MVOC’s suggestions can’t be implemented because it’s unconstitutional to write laws to shut down a legal business.

If the business isn’t operating in a legal manner, it’s up to the police to handle it, Hicks said.

Macina and other speakers said Lorain’s ordinance contains the seven suggestions, and they’ve been in effect since 1979. Niles recently passed an ordinance containing all of the recommendations, speakers said.

Saffold said this will not be the last rally on the issue. “We’re going to keep rallying, keep protesting until this comes to an end,” she said.

About 40 people attended Wednesday’s rally.


Comments

1lovethebuckeyes(32 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Frankly, if we have 10 that seems like a lot, but I hate stores that say "well know fact" and then follow with "do not know with 100% certainty" It is either a fact which is by definition 100% certain, or a supposition. Which is it?

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2NoTraffickingWantedHere(5 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

It IS a well known fact that AMPs are often fronts for trafficking. The "not 100% certain refers to the 10 AMPs in Warren.

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3jeep56(7 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

The spas are centers for prostitution. The talk on the website usasexguide dot info has discussions from the johns who come from the surrounding areas to pay around $150 for unprotected (usually) sex with women who the johns rate their performance on that site.

Nashville TN had the same problem with massage parlors back in the 90's and they successfully shut every one of them down. Lorain Ohio, Springfield Ohio, Cleveland Ohio, Ashtabula Ohio were all cities who had the same problem. They all did the exact same things to shut down the whore houses that were masquerading as massage parlors. Warren Ohio does not have to worry about legal issues if the laws on the books in these cities were put into the law here in Warren. Mr. Hicks seems to be overly worried about law suits. Those cities previously mentioned have no problems at all. So why the wait?

The women in these places are usually there because they need the money to send back to their often impoverished families back in Korea or other Eastern countries. These women who work in the spas are not there because they want to. Oriental culture devalues women as their policies of abortion of unborn females is in place in most of the Eastern world. So using the allowed to be born females as money generators is often practiced.

The sex trade is alive and well in Warren Ohio.....for now.

I salute the MVOC and their efforts to rid Warren of the reputation of being the city of "Happy Endings".

Oh and by the way........Johns....GO HOME.

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4Eaglesnest(1 comment)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

I have a friend who went out with one of these Chinese massage girls for over 2 years and he got a pretty good inside look at what goes on.

Almost all of these girls (at least in the Chinese establishments of which there are many if not most of these places) come from Flushing, New York and are illegal. Thats a fact.

They are all making at least between $60,000.00 - $70,000.00 a year TAX FREE, most of which is being wired weekly straight back to China. That is fact #2.

Most of the clientele at these joints are not what one might call 5 star guys. Sleazy or what Clint Eastwood might call "salty looking dudes" comes to mind. That is fact #3.

Most of these places offer the infamous "table shower". You look it up. If you think Warren has an abundance of fine young men who are health conscious and go to get table showers to be clean after 9:00PM at night, then I have a bridge across the Potomac to sell you.

This business is dirty to the core. Not maybe, kinda, or sorta. It is one sleazy business, with not many true "happy endings".

There are any number of ways to close these scummy joints down if one is so inclined.

It can be done by instituting licensing and fingerprinting for these so-called "massage therapists". If you think one of these illegals is going to waltz down to the local police station to concur with the requirements of that kind of law, you have a screw loose to put it bluntly.

It can be done through code enforcement.

It can be done through limiting the hours of operation.

It could be done through tax enforcement.

It could be done by fining the owners who know damn well they are illegal and what goes on.

Finally, it could be done in about 20 minutes if the INS simply walked into any one of these fixed locations and asked to see a green card.

This garbage is a cancer on any city. AND, I can tell you without any mental reservation whatsoever, that is is growing across American with the opening of these joints on a daily basis.

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