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Valley Dems lambaste Kasich over budget, SB 5

Published: Thu, May 26, 2011 @ 12:00 a.m.


Mahoning County Commissioner Anthony Traficanti

By David Skolnick



Elected Democratic officials from Youngstown and Mahoning County, along with local union leaders, criticized Gov. John Kasich for his state budget proposal and for Senate Bill 5.

The budget, which cuts local government funding, “is definitely the stake through the heart of working-class people,” said county Commissioner Anthony Traficanti.

The Ohio House approved the state budget — which includes a 25 percent reduction in Local Government Fund revenue to counties and communities effective July 1 and then an additional 25 percent beginning July 1, 2012 — with the Senate not yet voting on the issue.

The cuts are so severe, Traficanti said, that he doesn’t know what the county can do to make up the $2.4 million it will lose during that two-year period.

The commissioner also called SB 5, which reduces collective-bargaining rights for public employees, “probably one of the most divisive pieces of legislation that I have seen since the days of segregation.”

The Democrats were asked to attend Wednesday’s press conference outside city hall by We Are Ohio, a group organizing an effort to get SB 5 on the November ballot for repeal.

Donovan O’Neil, political director for the county’s Republican Party, said Kasich made it clear during the campaign that deep cuts were needed to balance the state’s budget.

Also, the governor gave local government entities the tools needed to reduce the impact of those cuts, such as SB 5, health-care pooling for employees and ways to have governments share services, O’Neil said.

County Commissioner Carol Rimedio-Righetti said Kasich didn’t bother speaking with local elected officials about the impact of his budget and SB 5 before proposing them.


1faith(200 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Kasick is a dictator not a leader. His plan to run Ohio like he did leman brothers is going to destroy our great state!

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2palbubba(809 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Kasich is making budget cuts that are necessary to balance the budget. Something these "increase taxes" Democrats have no clue about. Maybe the 2.4 million cut could be cut out of the bloated county budget and all these constant pay raises could stop. Let us not forget that these cuts have been made necessary by the mess left by Teddy Strickland and reduced allottments given the states by hope Obama.

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3AntiFascist(61 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Blame Obama, blame Strickland, blame Clinton, blah blah blah.

The fact of the matter is, this governor has no idea how to handle finances. I'd be surprised if he could balance a checkbook.

We've got four years to look forward to complete crap like this:


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4redeye1(5657 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Talk is easy, work is hard. The democrats don't want to work for the people, they just want to talk a good story. But have they come up with any solutions. NO Because that would take work and take away their camera time. Let's face it these problems didn't start in January as the democrats want you to believe, but have been coming for sometime

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5taliwacker(54 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

the local ER must have gotten sick of this wind bag, and chased him out.... Beatris will do anything to get some air time...
Gov Kasich, do your thing we got your back.... If the bill happens to end up on the ballot, and it get enough votes to overturn it.. fire about 3,500 of them... I would be happy to work without a union... less not forget the million or so unemployed Ohioans...
Record unemployment, and unions want more... go figure, they do not care about anything except more money in their pockets...

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6faith(200 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

taliwacker, you are in the minority;
Kasich Ties Florida’s Scott as Most Unpopular
May 26, 2011 7:02 a.m.
RALEIGH, N.C. -- Ohio Gov. John Kasich has become more unpopular over the last few months, as the opposition to his limitations on collective bargaining has intensified, finds a new survey by Public Policy Polling.

Kasich, polling in March at 35% approve of his job performance while 54% disapprove, has slipped a bit to 33% to 56%, tying him with Florida's Rick Scott for the most unpopular governor in the country.

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7taliwacker(54 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

So it is either SB-5 or 3500 get fired... it dont bother me either way... ill vote for him again... put you mooches in your place...

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8paulparks(235 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Where was the big blow-up anti-union rat?... Or should we now be calling it "the anti-SB5" rat? Comm. Traficanti calls SB5 "divisive." Comm. Rimedio-Righetti wanted the governor to consult her before signing SB5... Never in my life have I seen local elected officials, who are paid well to work for us - openly, during their work day - engage in purely partisan political activity on behalf of a petition drive. That's all this is... a petition drive. Why don't these local democratic officeholders get chastised for this blatant disregard of their full-time duties to all the people of Mahoning County, not just the opponents of SB5? Think about it. Do you ever remember a local government body passing a resolution to condemn a new law? This is unprecedented. They ought to have their pay docked for attending the rally. Does the Democrat Party only represent union constituents?

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Plundering the taxpayers has been going on for so long in Mahoning County that today it is deemed as a right . Let's raise productivity by putting more to work and share the tax load .

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10taliwacker(54 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Gov Kasich should pass a resolution, that allows public sector employee's collective bargain with the taxpayers... on the ballot only... No more bargaining of anything with state or local reps, just the taxpayers of that community..

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11ytown1(398 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

What is the budget each year for Mahoning county? Here is a bit from a Trib article dated 12/30/2010,

While Mahoning County commissioners unanimously approved a $50.9 million general fund budget for 2011, they already are thinking about 2012.

At their final meeting of the year Wednesday, commissioners approved the budget, though county administrator George J. Tablack said the budget could increase the $2.4 million allotted for general fund administration, which helps pay off the county's debt.

The budget includes $35.8 million for personnel costs and $15.1 million for operational costs.

Tablack said it's the first budget in seven years that was completely dictated by the county after it was mandated by a federal court that it provide more funding to reduce overcrowding at the county jail.

"The fact is for the first time in seven years, the county is truly in charge of its own budget," Tablack said. "They (courts) required we fund the jail even in a declining economy with abnormal and disproportionate amount of funds. Now we're sizing the jail based on what we can afford. Certainly it's our goal to slowly increase the capacity when we can afford it. But at the same time, we'll try to control our labor costs."

The budget commission, which consists of the county auditor, treasurer and prosecutor, projected the 2011 general fund revenue at $51.4 million

So we have a budget of $50.9 Million and Revenue of $51.4 Million, they are stating the reduction over the next two years is a total of $2.4 Million??????? $2.4 divided by two is $1.2 Million per year, so $51.4 minus $1.2 equals $50.2 Million that is only a deficit of $700K, on a $50.9 Million Budget it should quite easy to find $700K just in an adjustment in the co pays for the prescription insurance plans for the county workers? More smoke and mirrors to promote another sales tax increase.

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12TB(1167 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

"Kasich is making budget cuts that are necessary to balance the budget. Something these "increase taxes" Democrats have no clue about. Maybe the 2.4 million cut could be cut out of the bloated county budget and all these constant pay raises could stop. "

Or we could simply collect the tax money that is due the state and stop giving abatements to lure businesses that leave or shut down at the end of the abatement, or businesses that play communities against each other (hello wal mart)

the necessary decisions should not be to attack taxpaying members of the middle class, as union members are. the real wealth lies at the top, and they don't want you to see it. they'd rather you argue over the scraps than get to the table.

shame on you all for not having enough self-respect to demand a living wage and fair treatment.

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13Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

All you faithful liberals out there sing in unison now , TAX THEM TO THE LIMIT ONE MORE TIME !



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14VindyPost(436 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Kasich is tied to be the least popular Governor in the nation.

By ModernEsquire On May 25, 2011 ...
We all know how John Kasich has this Florida fetish. Well, now as Ohio’s Governor, Kasich might help Ohio beat Florida… in having the least popular Governor in the nation.

PPP, a Democratic polling outfit, just released it’s latest Ohio poll, and it disagrees with the finding of the latest Quinnipiac, which showed Kasich with a modest bounce in the polls, but still deeply underwater. Whereas Quinny showed Kasich with a slight improvement among independents; PPP shows his standing with Republicans has deteriorated instead.

PPP instead finds Kasich’s approval rating getting worse. According to PPP, Kasich’s approval/disapproval rating stands at 33% to 56%, down from 35%-54% in March. This places Kasich in tie with Florida Governor Rick Scott as the least popular Governor in office in the nation right now.

In fact, PPP finds that in a rematch against former Governor Ted Strickland, Strickland’s hypothetical lead has GROWN from fifteen points in March to TWENTY-FIVE POINTS NOW. Strickland would crush Kasich in a rematch presently getting the support of 59% to 34%… in other words, what Strickland did against Ken Blackwell in 2006. According to PPP, independents have essentially flipped on Kasich since the election.

55% of Ohioans presently support repealing SB 5; only 35% plan to vote to let the law stand. This is virtually the same split found in Quinnipiac, including the same roughly quarter of Republicans who support repealing SB 5.

45% of voters, however, would support a constitutional amendment enshrining collective bargaining rights, but only 32% would oppose such an amendment.

The poll also finds that in Ohio Democrats have a NINE-POINT lead on the generic Congressional ballot question (43%-34%.) While like Quinnipiac, PPP shows that Kasich has a problem with female voters, it also shows (albeit by a lesser extent) that Kasich is underwater with male voters, too.

Large majority of Ohioans still support keeping gay marriage illegal by a 53%/31% margin, but among registered voters 18-29 years old, they are evenly split, which suggests at least the possibility that opposition to gay marriage could die out over time.

Incidentally, PPP found that LeBron James has a 23% to 49% favorability/unfavorability rating. That means that John Kasich’s approval rating polls worse than LeBron James does in Ohio.

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15VindyPost(436 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Yet another stupid, unneeded tax cut idea from Governor Kasich

The Columbus Dispatch is reporting that Governor Kasich, reaching back to his Lehman Brothers’ roots, wants to give banks a tax break to encourage lending:

Kasich, a former executive at Lehman Brothers, suggested yesterday that altering the tax could reduce costs for banks and generate more loans.

We need to cut taxes so we can encourage banks to make loans is like saying we need to cut taxes to encourage me to draft contracts or file lawsuits. I don’t need a tax cut to do my business model, neither do banks.

Despite what you may believe as a result of millions, if not billions, in marketing, banks are not designed to be your friend who wears a casual polo shirt while you fly model airplanes or give kids ice cream.

Banks make money because of lending. A bank that isn’t lending isn’t a bank. Why do some checking accounts offer better interest rates? Because those accounts require a certain level of deposits that the bank can leverage for… more lending. Where does the interest come from? It’s the cut of what the bank is willing to give you for the money it made from… lending your deposits out.

Seriously, banks don’t need tax cuts to get them to lend. It’s what they do… by definition.

Not even a bank industry representative could stay on the same page as the Administration as to why this tax cut (which Kasich’s budget doesn’t account for) would be beneficial:

"That money could be put into the stakeholders’ pockets, which they would spend and continue to drive the economy," [Bob Palmer, president and CEO of the Community Bankers Association of Ohio] said.

In other words, the money saved from any tax cut won’t stimulate more lending activity in the financial sector, but may have a stimulative effect when it allows us to pay larger dividends to our shareholders. U.S. Bank, one of the largest banks in the nation, is presently paying $.13 in dividends per common share stock. Kasich’s tax cut probably wouldn’t have beyond a negligible impact on its dividends. In other words, as an economic stimulator, Kasich’s proposed tax cut is a total bust.

And why else does Kasich think that the banks need this tax cut?

"I mean, taxing people on the basis of net worth instead of net income is something that’s not all that appealing to me," Kasich told about 300 bank executives at the Ohio Bankers’ Day Conference at the Crowne Plaza Columbus North.

Which is odd since this statement would, seemingly, put Kasich’s odds as to his official position on how the State’s Commercial Activities Tax (CAT) should be applied to the gross and not net receipts of the casinos.

When even the industry’s own insiders cannot justify the Governor’s case for giving them a major tax break, it’s over. This isn’t a debate worth Ohio having.

Seriously, someone please tell the Governor to stop spouting off at the mouth every half-baked idea he’s every had.

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16MARKSWARNER(1 comment)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

For those of you who hate public unions and think SB5 is the most wonderful thing in the world, you should understand that you are fulfilling the objectives of those who have started a process for the rich to get richer and the middle class to become poor. Senate Bill 5 is not about controlling taxes and it is not about making sure that public workers are placed in an equal spectrum of wages as the worker in the private sector.The politicians in our government tell us that free trade agreements create opportunities for Americans and help the economy grow. We now have 19 free trade agreements around the world. The industries and manufacturing companies tell us that in order to compete in a global market they must outsource their labor. The fallacy of that statement is this; before these trade agreements were put into effect, the United States was THE super power in the world. Those huge corporations have the freedom to move their production to third world countries (effectively destroying our labor unions) and move product without any financial restrictions. That middle class was created because there were unions. Unions that negotiated for wages and health benefits for blue collar workers, unions that kept large corporations from treating it employees like slaves. Our industry and manufacturing and have been destroyed. The big corporations and the politicians did this to us, not the unions. Governor Kasich has signed SB5 into law. The Republican based Tea Party exclaims how we finally have a government which is going to do something about evil over paid public union people. Why is this grassroots organization not having fits about our politician’s wages and benefits? The annual salary of each senator, as of 2009, is $174,000; the president pro tempore and party leaders receive $193,400. Senators also receive retirement and health benefits that are identical to other federal employees, and are fully vested after five years of service. If an organization like the Tea Party, is so outraged because people like teachers, police and firemen ( wages under a $90,000 a year plus health benefits), should they not be doubly outraged by the idea of what politician’s are making.
Senate Bill 5 will allow school districts to fire all support staff (bus drivers, custodial, maintenance, and food service) if they are under financial duress, replacing them with privatization. The truth is, the rich are manipulating the poor and unemployed to do their bidding, to finish destroying what unions are left in this country so they can privatize and work Americans for low wages and poor health benefits. When SB5 comes to a election booth near you in November, you have the chance to rescind it. Think about what this country would still be like if our government had not allowed the big corporations to give away American jobs and destroy our private labor unions. We now see the United States becoming a country of the very rich and the very poor.

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172muchtax(897 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

The public unions have been screwing the taxpayers for way too long. Instead of trying to stay in line with the private sector they just decided to be greedy and keep taking. Yearly pensions of 50-60K a year after as little as 30yrs. Administrators not paying anything into retirement. State Highway Patrol retiring after 20yrs. It is unsustainable and greedy and you wonder why the private workers are mad. Uniform allowance, boot allowance, longevity pay, unbelievable pensions. Hey just throw up another levy!

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