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Gov. Kasich's proposed Ohio budget cuts



Published: Wed, March 16, 2011 @ 12:01 a.m.
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Executive Proposed Budget for FY 2012-13

Executive Budget for Fiscal Years 2012 and 2013

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Governor John Kasich

BIGGEST LOSERS

Projected Local Government Fund losses to Mahoning Valley entities over a two-year period if Gov. John Kasich’s budget is passed as is:

MAHONING COUNTY

$2.4M

Youngstown

$1.51M

Boardman

$335,000

Austintown

$256,000

TRUMBULL COUNTY

$2.25M

Warren

$850,000

COLUMBIANA COUNTY

$1.05M

Source: Elected officials

MORE PROPOSED CUTS

The governor is proposing various cuts to balance the state’s two-year budget, including:

• Libraries will see a 5 percent cut.

• A 25 percent cut per year in the Local Government Fund for two years.

• An 11.5 percent cut in K-12 education for fiscal year 2012 and a 4.9 percent cut for fiscal year 2013. That includes elimination of one-time federal stimulus money.

• Closing seven regional Taxpayer Service Centers, including one in Youngstown, and eliminating 99 jobs. That’s a savings of $1 million over the two years, not including the staff reductions.

• A 6 percent cut in fiscal year 2012 for the state’s seven business incubators, including the one in Youngstown, and the elimination of all funding for the incubators in 2013 to save a total of $15.9 million over two years. The state is expected to fund the incubators through the new JobsOhio program in 2013, however.

By David Skolnick

skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Gov. John Kasich’s budget proposal calls for significant cuts, 50 percent over a two-year period, to local governments that will put financially struggling Mahoning Valley counties, cities, villages and townships in an even more challenging position.

Kasich’s plan to balance the state’s two-year budget, with an expected $8 billion deficit, calls for a 25 percent reduction in Local Government Fund revenue to counties and communities effective July 1 of this year, and an additional 25 percent cut in July 1, 2012.

That proposal would save the state $555 million over two years. The Local Government Fund comes from state sales, personal income, utility and corporate franchise taxes.

Because counties and communities operate on a calendar year and the state’s fiscal year begins in July, the cut for the rest of this year is 12.5 percent.

Youngstown received $3.02 million in Local Government Fund revenue from the state last year. The city will lose about $377,000 during the last six months of this year, and an additional $377,000 during the first six months of 2012. Youngstown then will see an additional $754,000 decrease in Local Government Fund revenue between July 1, 2012, and June 30, 2013.

That means Youngstown’s Local Government Fund would drop from $3.02 million to $1.51 million over a two-year period beginning in July.

For a city with an estimated general-fund surplus of $50,000 this year, the proposed state cut makes it that much more difficult to balance the budget, said Youngstown Mayor Jay Williams. The city’s 2011 general-fund budget is about $39 million.

“We already have a lean budget,” he said. “There’s not a lot more we can cut, but we’re going to have to figure out where to cut. I understand the state’s condition, but this is detrimental to cities like Youngstown.”

ELSEWHERE

Boardman Township expected to receive about $670,000 this year from the Local Government Fund, said fiscal officer William D. Leicht. It will lose $335,000 over a two-year period.

“We heard numbers like that, but I didn’t want to believe it,” Leicht said. The fund “isn’t as a big part of our revenue as it is in smaller communities.”

The township’s budget is about $16 million this year, and before the cut, the fund made up about 4 percent of the budget.

“I think it will cause us to go to the drawing board with a [potential] upcoming levy. ... Now I think we also have to look at replacing the money we’re losing in the overall scheme of things,” Leicht said.

Poland Township had planned for $45,000 from the LGF this year before the cuts were announced. The township’s 2011 budget is $2.77 million.

Mike Dockry, Austintown administrator, said the township currently receives $513,000 from the state Local Government Fund. Under the proposed cuts, Austintown, with a $16.5 million budget, will lose $256,000 over two years.

“We’ll have that much less in the general fund, and the general fund is, if you will, the fund of last resort for police, fire, road resurfacing and sometimes for grants,” he said.

Dockry said the township’s financial situation will worsen in 2012 because Austintown will have less money to carry over into the next fiscal year.

“Right now, I think we’ll get through this year,” he said. “Next year will be more difficult because we’re not going to have as much money to carry over as we did in 2011, so things will be a lot more difficult.”

Canfield City Manager Joe Warino said compared to other surrounding communities, the city gets a much smaller amount — $31,000 — from the state, but it won’t go unnoticed.

“We’ll have to look for ways to make up the difference,” he said. “It would be more of city services that would be impacted.”

In Campbell, officials expected to finally emerge from a seven-year-long state-imposed fiscal emergency status by the end of this year.

But if the proposed budget passes, that may not happen, said Mayor Bill VanSuch and Finance Director Sherman Miles.

The cuts would mean the city would lose $32,000 after this year’s cut goes into effect in July, and $95,000 for the other 18 months of the proposed reduction, Miles said.

VanSuch said the city’s situation was promising. “It was looking good, but this is a slap in the face,” he said.

In Struthers, the cuts would not strap the city for this year, said Mayor Terry Stocker and Auditor Tina Morell.

Stocker said, though, that he didn’t think the cut would be that deep.

The city will lose $27,000 in 2011.

Next year, they said, the cuts will hurt.

“It’s shameful to think he would do something like this,” Stocker said, adding that the governor has said he wouldn’t raise taxes, but these funding cuts will result in local governments asking residents for more money.

Mahoning County receives $4.8 million annually from the state fund with all of it going to the general fund, said Commissioner John A. McNally IV.

The 25 percent cut in each year of the new state biennium beginning July 1, 2011, means a $1.2 million annual loss to the county, McNally noted.

“It’s always significant for the general fund because we have to make up that loss in income without a corresponding loss in services that we have to provide,” he said.

To make up for funding losses, McNally said he is interested in exploring sharing services with the cities and townships through such things as consolidation of 911 centers or of city and county building inspection services.

“All governments are going to have to continue to try to be creative on how we can make up some of these funding cuts,” because the cities and townships will also see cuts in local government funding from the state, he added.

TRUMBULL COUNTY

In Trumbull County, the cut is slightly larger than county commissioners had anticipated, but the budget they approved last week anticipated the state reduction.

The county receives about $4.5 million from the fund, meaning it will receive about $1.125 million less over the course of 12 months, beginning in July, Trumbull County Commissioner Paul Heltzel said.

The 2011 county budget is $2 million to $3 million less than in 2010, depending on whether you count a $1 million one-time payment from Ohio Edison in 2010.

The county budget resulted in about a 7 percent decrease for most departments, including a $600,000 cut for the sheriff’s office.

Heltzel anticipates that personnel reductions will be required in many departments to absorb the funding loss.

Warren officials also had anticipated the cut and had allowed for it in the 2010 budget, Mayor Michael O’Brien said.

Warren receives about $1.7 million each year from the fund, meaning it will get $212,000 less in 2011 than it did previously.

Gov. Kasich’s proposal would affect distributions starting with the second half of 2011, O’Brien noted.

COLUMBIANA COUNTY

Jim Hoppel, president of the Columbiana County commissioners, said the county had expected to get $2.1 million in local government funds this year.

The commissioners at one time thought the cut would be about 15 percent, he said.

Since the county has appropriated its LGF money, the county may have to tighten its belt in the last half of the year, he added.

Kasich’s budget also includes a 6 percent reduction in funding for the state’s seven business incubators, including the one in downtown Youngstown. The budget eliminates all funding for incubators in the 2013 fiscal year.

But Jim Cossler, the Youngstown incubator’s director, said he’s been told by the Ohio Department of Development that state funding will come from Jobs Ohio, a new organization in charge of the state’s economic development operations.

“The governor ran on job creation so it would be hard to believe he’d phase out one of the most successful job-creation programs in the state,” Cossler said.

Libraries would see a 5 percent cut in state funding under Kasich’s budget.

The Public Library of Youngstown and Mahoning County had expected a 15 percent reduction, said Janet Loew, its spokeswoman. The cut won’t impact library operations or its plans to expand hours starting April 25.

Contributors: Ashley Luthern, Elise Franco, Jeanne Starmack, Peter H. Milliken, Ed Runyan, D.A. Wilkinson



March 15 Kasich Budget Briefing 1
Gov. John Kasich and members of his administration discuss his two-year budget proposal.



March 15 Kasich Budget Rollout 2
Gov. John Kasich and members of his administration discuss his two-year budget proposal.



March 15 Kasich Budget Rollout 3
Gov. John Kasich and members of his administration discuss his two-year budget proposal.



March 15 Kasich Budget Rollout 4
Gov. John Kasich and members of his administration discuss his two-year budget proposal.



March 15 Kasich Budget Rollout 5
Gov. John Kasich and members of his administration discuss his two-year budget proposal.



March 15 Kasich Budget Rollout 6



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Former Ohio Attorney General Marc Dann talks about the state's open meetings and public records laws in this state-produced clip that was distributed with the 2008 Ohio Sunshine Laws resource manual.



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Comments

1bmanresident(577 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

I love how the Vindy immediately starts bashing Kasich. How about all of the incentives for small business owners, AKA the job creators? The again it doesnt matter if new business is created in the Valley, the Unions will surely chase them away anyhow, i.e. Henry Nemenz

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2InColumbiana(63 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

How is this "bashing"... this article is simply stating facts... it is Kasich who is defunding even business incubators...

As for "incentives for small business owners" want to post what they are? My bet is that they do NOT do anyting to balance the budget. They're nothing more than a corporate welfare program funded by the taxpaying middle class workers.

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3Askmeificare(667 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Is the city of youngstowns' budget so lean that city council is considering rehiring a golf pro at $76,000.00 a year?

http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/mar/15...

Is the city of youngstowns' budget so lean that outgoing politicians, in a lame duck environment, STILL go out on political junkets paid for by the taxpayer?

Come on politicians - quit playing the game and trim the remaining fat off the city budget.

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4arod(258 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Great freaking article Vindy, the you tube clips cover almost the entire ad. Can't even get the skewed Vindy facts...

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5timOthy(802 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Fools what did you except ? I know I was not part of the 2 % that got him elected !

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6Springman(235 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

So just how much natural gas underlies the Valley? Think it might cover all those cuts?

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7UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

John Kasich's budget is fair and balanced as I heard so many times yesterday. Don't forget casino monies will soon be coming to each county. Did they think they could add that to their local government spending plans too? He did not change the income tax state cuts and that is good for all us middle class private sectopr employees. Education continues funding with minimal impact. I may not agree 100% with his budget, but it's 250% better then the last Strickland budget that depended upon federal Obama stimulus dollars to balance. Overall he gets an A- from me for this budget.

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8SAVEOURCOUNTRY(464 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

An increase in the budget for education? Thought everyone was going to get cut? Only the blind can't see. KASICK biggest contributor is the FOR-PROFIT Charter school chief in the state of Ohio. Why would he cut funds for his Wallstreet buddy?

When will the Vindy and the rest of the state open their eyes and see educating kids in charter school is simply a way for business to STEAL tax payer dollars!

Side note: Why did KASICK 'force the state school superintendent out? So the grand wizard can put his puppet in place to funnel more money from the public schools to his buddy in the' Let's get big bucks and who care if they learn charter schools'

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9wz08mk(4 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Why doesn't he cut the Highway Patrol? We don't need a cop every 20 miles on the Turnpike. I've been to 46 states and four continents and haven't seen cops anywhere like I've seen in Ohio.

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10Mondoman(6 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Hold on to your wallets, property owners! 50% cuts to the county's general fund over the next 2 years will have to be made up with increased taxes on the county level.

No smoke and mirrors Kasich says. I didn't raise taxes. No, but he is shifting the blame onto the counties of Ohio. The poorest counties will be hurt the worst.

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11Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

This is what you voted for . What did you think he was going to do . Please tell us what you thought he was going to do . .

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12ValleyNative(174 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

All these cuts are great and all, but Ohio doesn't have a future unless we can find a way to increase revenues instead of just decreasing expenditures. I mean, what new businesses or industries are moving to Ohio? All you have to do is go 28 miles into PA to the Cranberry Twp. exit off I-76 to see a city that is growing. How? Make your state and locality business-friendly! It blows my mind each and every time I go there that it's only, eh, 40 minutes from Youngstown but growing at a dang good pace.

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13MJP(3 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Ok, so this guy comes into office with an 8 billion dollar credit card debt to pay back and we call him names on cutting the budget to pay off bills that someone else charged.

We blame the voters that put him in office, right?

But, we don't blame the voters & politicians that put in the idiots that ran up a debt that is out of control and needs to be addressed.

This guy didn't create the problem - he's trying to fix it. Get used to it folks - at some point the federal government will be doing the same thing.

Again, I just don't understand what you expect - Ohio HAS to pay the piper at this point - its really not an option to do otherwise & this guy isn't the root cause of all that spending to begin with.

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14iBuck(205 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

The Ohio state government (and many of the county and city governments in OH) have been over-spending for decades. They've gotten accustomed to it. A few little cuts and replacement of government activities by local people going back to doing things for themselves will be good.

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15mrblue(923 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

You knew what this guy was all about before election day. Did you vote or did you feel he couldn't win so you stayed home. Well---he did win---and if you didn't vote---don't complain. It is going to be a rough road for us all. A lot of local politicians helped create this debt---so maybe we should remember this on the next election day.

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16redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

The state of Ohio like most of the other states has been spending money it didn't have for years. I would bet that some of you that are whining about the cutbacks are the same ones that have run up your credit card debt or have bought homes that you can not now afford. These cutbacks should of been started years ago but any governor suggesting them would of been booted.

Maybe we should tax the rich (successful people) more. They only pay a max rate of 35% now on AGI. How many of you even pay 10-15%? That will just result in more unemployment because these "rich" people are usually those that create jobs. Have at it dummies, next election, vote for "change"

Ytown motto "Poor people have voted democrat for 50 years and the are still poor"

Charles Barkley

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17dmacker(225 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

If the politicians are serious about cutting the fat from local budgets someone should look at the WRTA. Don't take my word for it.
Next time you see a bus in Youngstown or Boardman look carefully at how many passengers they are carrying.
I walk at Southern Park daily and many of the buses arriving and leaving are empty.
Occasionally you will see three or four people get on or off.
The same is true for buses in Youngstown and elsewhere.
This is a waste of fuel, equipment and tax money that could be spent on schools.
Entitlement programs provide a vehicle allowance for those that need it and they aren't spending it on bus fare.
I'm sure there are some people somewhere who need public transportation on occasion. We could provide van service on call for those and save a ton of money. That is if politicians are serious about cutting the fat rather than just chewing the bull.

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18fd6636(254 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

YEP, PUBLIC EMPLOYEES FAULT. HOW'S THIS, AND PAY ATTENTION TEA BAGGERS:
KASICH WAS MANAGING DIRECTOR OF COLUMBUS LEHMAN BROS. FROM 2001, TO 2008 WHEN IT COLLAPSED!!!!!!
2008, GOT HIS SALERY OF 587,000, PLUS, $400.000 OF BONUS MONEY FOR POLITICAL INFLUENCES TO INVEST $480,000.00 OF PUBLIC PENSION FUNDS, WHICH LEHMAN LOST WHEN CORPORATE GREED ON WALL ST. CAUSED LEHMAN BROS TO GO OUT OF BUISNESS!!!

AND NOW THIS CLOWN IS IN CHARGE OF OUR STATES BUDGET??? ARE SOME OF YOU SUPPORTERS CRAZY???? AND THIS ALL FALLS ON PUBLIC WORKERS??? HOW DO YOU FIGURE. I JUST GAVE YOU SOME PRETTY HARD FACTS AS YOU TEA BAGGERS AND SUPPORTERS DESIRE TO HAVE AND YOU STILL SUPPORT THE THIEF IN A SUIT??? REMEMBER: YOU THINK ITS ALL GOOD, YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE THAT YES, THIS WILL AFFECT YOU!!! SO NOW LIKE ALOT OF YOU SUPPORTERS STATE THAT ITS PUBLIC PENSIONS AND BENFITS THAT CAUSED THIS? WRONG WRONG, WRONG. NOW EVERYBODY PAYS. PAYS FOR GREED THAT NO ONE CARED TO DEAL WITH WHEN THIS JERK WAS IN POWER ON THE "PRIVATE" SIDE DESTROYING EVERYTHING IN HIS PATH. NO NEW TAXES? HA! NOW YOU GOT TO LEVY MORE MONEIES TO KEEP YOUR SERVICES. DONT WANNA PAY? YOU LOOSE SERVICES. DONT THINK YOU'LL NEED US? MY NEIGHBOR THE TEA BAGGER GOT A TASTE OF THIS WHEN HE NEEDED THE FIRE DEPT AT HIS HOUSELAST NIGHT. CHANGED HIS TUNE WHEN IT CAME TO PUBLIC SERVICES REAL FAST!!

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19redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

fd, you ran your mouth for quite awhile (by the way, your keyboard is stuck on Caps Lock) supposedly giving a lot of hard facts but I did not see any solutions. Will these be in your next post after you figure out how to turn the "Caps Lock" off?

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20city_resident(501 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

I'm not even going to argue with the claims that are being made about the local bus service. But what does this have to do with Kasich's budget? If ALL state funding to the WRTA was cut, it would still be about 0.00125% of the state's budget deficit.

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21VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

I don't understand why this should be profound news to many of us. We have been living on growth and borrowing for so long and spending money like there was no tomorrow. Now, we are faced with hard facts. Our tax revenue is way down because of the poor economy, so we cannot support all the government enterprises at hand. Something has to give, and we cannot afford any further tax increases. Prices continue to rise, but incomes have fallen. It is time to "share the wealth".

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22dubfun(174 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

What is Kasich doing personally to help the State? Is he taking a salary cut? Is he cutting his medical benefits and then personally contributing to pay a percentage of the premium? What about his retirement benefits? Is he going to slash them? If he wants sacrifices from everbody else, he should be willing to make a few sacrifices. Remember, Kasich would not have spent the money (or taken money from his future appointees) to run for Governer if it wasn't going to benefit him in some way. Do you think he's doing this out of the goodness of his heart? Until he makes personal sacrifices, all of his rhetoric is nothing but blowing smoke.

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23Hlecter(59 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

First let me comment briefly on FD's (the CAPS GUY) post #21

Sir could you please not use the term tea-b#gg#rs.

I find that offensive and an insult to my intelligence.

Would you please give your solution to cutting/raising 8 billion dollars to balance the budget as is required by law.

Enough with the wall-street and crony references. stop with the Democrat Party talking points.

What Kasich did with Lehman Bros. has absolutely no bearing on what he is doing now.

BTW do you know what the Tea Party's agenda is FD?

It is to Control Government Spending and Lower Taxes, and shrink the size and scope of Govt.
It is more in line with Libertarian thinking than Republican.

Are you against those 3 concepts?

I am NOT (caps just for you FD) at TEA party member. I am a conservative. If a Democrat can govern/legislate in line with my values, I will vote for him/her.

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24Hlecter(59 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

@dub

How about editing your comments to include ALL lawmakers in Columbus.

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25newsmaker1(123 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

John Kasich has experience,,becoming Chairman of the House Budget Committee in 1995, remember he was responsible for the Balance Budget Act of 1997, so he knows what he's doing.,
turning deficit's into surpluses.

We need to support him, unless someone else has a better idea. I'm just a taxpayer but Hagan, Gerberry & company have never proposed anything.

How long has Hagan been down there, he never talked about the deficit, Hmm.

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26Hlecter(59 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

@FD and other critics including Dem lawmakers in Columbus:

Still waiting for your

"Solutions to solve the 8bil dollar deficit"

Please post your ideas. Here, based on your mindset I will start it for you:

1. Raise taxes on the rich.

OK please continue.

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27MJP(3 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

It's interesting how everyone complains about this guy but has no solution to our problems and no response to the fact that they voted for idiots that ran up this 8 billion dollar number to begin with.

Folks, like said before, Ohioan's might as well get used to paying high taxes because once the retirees pass away - there isn't much here in jobs. It's a bad combination and someone has to be laser focused at fixing it. I wish there were easy solutions to the problems but one focus has to be clear - create an environment to create jobs that will BE AROUND in the next 50 yrs. We can't continue to invest our money within industries that have difficultly competing globally.

Right or wrong - it's a global market - every other person in the world wants our standard of living. They will scratch and claw to get it. We will hold our hand out and ask for help.

This country is just getting so soft. 20 yrs from now we'll be France.

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28MJP(3 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

It's interesting how everyone complains about this guy but has no solution to our problems and no response to the fact that they voted for idiots that ran up this 8 billion dollar number to begin with.

Folks, like said before, Ohioan's might as well get used to paying high taxes because once the retirees pass away - there isn't much here in jobs. It's a bad combination and someone has to be laser focused at fixing it. I wish there were easy solutions to the problems but one focus has to be clear - create an environment to create jobs that will BE AROUND in the next 50 yrs. We can't continue to invest our money within industries that have difficultly competing globally.

Right or wrong - it's a global market - every other person in the world wants our standard of living. They will scratch and claw to get it. We will hold our hand out and ask for help.

This country is just getting so soft. 20 yrs from now we'll be France.

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29Hlecter(59 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

@geromajor

all good points you raise, well almost all.

So I'm gonna be generous and give you 1 billion in savings from what you suggested.

7.0 to go.

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30fd6636(254 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE CAPS, GETS YOUR ATTENTION. TO FIX BUDGET:
1. CORPORATE TAX!
2.NOT TAXING THE FILTHY RICH WHO CAN AFFORD IT, AND TAXING THE MIDDLE CLASS TO ME IS A NO NO!
3.INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO ARE IN THE BACK POCKETS OF THESE REPUB. POLITICANS. ( SOME DEMS TOO!, IM NOT STUPID?)
5. TAXES ON IMPORTS,ESP. CHINA. MORE MONEY IN COUNTRY, MORE FOR STATES FROM GOVERMENT., LESS TAXES, LESS CUTS TO WORKING MAN.
5. GET RID OF OBAMA HEALTHCARE. NOT GOOD IDEA, THIS IS WHAT THIS WHOLE REP/DEM MESS IS ABOUT ANYWAY, RIGHT?
6.TEA "PARTY". WAS THAT BETTER?
SEEMS TO ME LIKE A GROUP OF RADICALS WHO HAVE BEEN SLIGHTED IN LIFE SOMEHOW, AND WANT EVERYONE ELSE TO BE MISERABLE TOO!
7. YOU DON'T SELL OFF YOUR RESOURCES TO PRIVATE INDUSTRIES FOR A ONE TIME FIX. WHY? CAUSE IF YOU CARS BROKE, YOU DONT SELL IT, YOU FIX IT.
SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU OUT THERE WITH MY CAPS, YOU GUYS REALLY PAY ATTENTION!!! IF THE NATIONAL GOVT. GETS THEIR SH#T IN ORDER, SO WILL WE. WE NEED, REPEAT NEED TO REGULATE BIG BUISNESS AND WALL STREET!!! THEY ARE HOLDING THE ECOMONY'S MONEY, AND NOT PUTTING INTO CIRCULATION, AND YOU KNOW THIS. PLAY MONOPLY, AND BE THE BANKER. HOLD 75% OF THE PLAY MONEY, AND TRY TO PLAY THE GAME. YOU CAN'T, SAME WITH OUR ECOMONY. THIS IS WHAT BIG BUISNESS DOES.

YOU ASKED FOR MY LITTLE SPIN ON WHAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP THE ECOMONY. FAMILY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN POLITICS FOR YEARS. I KNOW HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED.
YOU WANT SOMTHING, SO DO I, WE THREAT, AND THEN COME TO SOME UNDER TABLE "UNDERSTANDING". YOU THINK THIS WILL EVER CHANGE? KILL ALL UNION RIGHTS AND YOU WLL GET WAY MORE THAN U BARGINED FOR. DO WE NEED REFORM? SOME. THIS EXTREME? NO WAY. CANT TAKE ALL THE COOKIES OFF THE TABLE AND EXPECT LITTLE TOMMY TO BE HAPPY, RIGHT?? SORRY SOME DON'T AGREE WITH ME. THIS IS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT DEMOCRACY: THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE. THIS IS WHAT THE RADICAL REPUBLICANS, AND TEA PARTY BACKERS(SOME!)
WANNA TO TAKE AWAY FROM US!!
our rights!!!!!

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31redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Okay, #1 Corporate tax! Result will be that prices of goods will go up to make up the difference.

#2 Tax the "filthy rich", AKA successful people. Who are the filthy rich? Most of them are business owners who are paying up to 35% on AGI. What do you pay? So how do they maintain the same level of income they are used to, lay off a few employees.

#3 Glad you clarified that you were not stupid or so you imply.

# The import taxes can work for and against you. Raise import taxes and the price of the goods go up.

You have a lot of opinions, not real workable solutions.

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32Millie(192 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

While we are looking at ways to cut the overhead in Ohio - stop at the Social Security office in Youngstown. Very few over 60 years old - but a lot of young people in there and many that do not speak English. If you have been on Welfare your entire life, how much do you get to collect in Social Security when you turn 65?

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33borylie(742 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Usually if you try and convince someone that you're not stupid,you usually are. Millie brings up a good point and something I'd like to know. Social Security if you pay in is to help us when we're older. Does anybody know how much of our Social Security money goes to people under 62 for any reason?

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34cathylukasko(110 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

GO KASICH. We finally have someone in the Governor's Office that has the tenancity to face the state deficits HEAD ON. The majority of Ohioans (especially the 85% that are NON-UNION) support him 100%!

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35hurrdurr(93 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

If balancing the budget means severely cutting our quality of life here, be honest about it. The budget calls for cuts and they will happen. Thus the unemployment rate will rise. Cuts in police and drug programs are going to increase crime. Allowing drilling and timber cutting in our state parks will increase pollution.

I'm sure companies will be flocking to locate here in this environment.

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36YoungerVoice(9 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

The realty of a budget shortfall is there is exactly two ways to fix it: cut spending (which riles up those most affected) or raise revenue (which riles up those whose taxes are increased). Democrat or Republican, those are the only solutions and someone will always get upset. What matters at the end of the day is whether or not conditions for the majority are improved.

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37borylie(742 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

If any of our Social Security money is coming from the people who paid into it and aren't of age,it should be stopped. Get the money from another source. It's not an entitlement if we pay in and expect it to grow for forty years or so and plan our old age with in the time frame and the amounts we were told to expect,within reason.

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38fd6636(254 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

OK. Redvert. Look, no caps!
Thanks for you reply. Here is mine:
1. Corporate tax: Price will go up ANYWAYS! called "cost of doing buisness".
2. Filthy rich. you know who they are and who is raping the system and us. But, I'll be honest, you win that one.
3. Not stupid.
4.Import tax: duh...... loosing!!!!

Insurance reform: Companies pay obscene premiums, doctors get small percentage for work performed, Insured pays redicilous co pays. where does the rest go? politicians pockets so reform doesent happen. = millions and millions in savings.........reform time.
Wall street.......... Almost brought down america with greed. Good training film for you called Wall street. We meaning you and I and everyone else who works hard and every day had to bail these thiefs out. millions and millions in money lost by ordinary folks in money and housing by these crooks. how do we make it right? give wall st. millions more, and no, not one real criminal charge against anyone!! Now, because of us, (you and I) wall st. is doing great, and you and I are having this stupid write off because of them!
reform time. Millions reclaimed by the pissed off taxpayers pumped back into the ecomony.

and finally, my what you call my non workable solutions. Why would you sell off your assets? You say savings for the budget? ok. You sell everything to balance budget. Great. what about next time? Do you think once and done??
Prisions, Turnpike. what next time. ohio state university??? I dont care what u do, your not gonna cut 8m, unless the state shuts down. Cutting public workers rights, and it will go to other unions, willl make small dent. not enough. this has nothing to do with ecomony, but outright union busting, and common Redvert, own up and admit this.
Good luck Ohio residents, were gonna need it!!! Remember "It's all great until it affects you"! Already hearing some supporters of the "emperor" bitch#ng already. Remember, "keep payin till it REALLY hurts" !! Have a good evening.

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39borylie(742 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

If I'm not mistaken not all of Ohio's assets are going to be sold as some will be leased. If the plan to curtail future deficits by limiting the amount of benefits and pensions we pay to public sector workers is realized,then this current fix will get us out of the current mess and we can maintain down the road. This is also true of local municipalities as they will in the future have a better chance at controlling costs due to the policies by this governor. It will hurt for a while but as in most cases,this too shall pass. As far as affecting us it 's been hurting for awhile. Higher gas&food prices,lower home prices and on & on well before Governor Kasich took office were these problems.

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40Bigben(1996 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

"Don't forget casino monies will soon be coming to each county." - - - LOL

Farming is the one sucessful industry in the state so he wants to finish off what is left of it.

I bet the big corporate farms still get big money though to poison us with corn loaded with insect DNA.No wonder bugs won't eat it and bees said ah, no a couple years ago.

It isn't going to work we will still be way in the hole in two years .You have to create as well as make reasonable cuts.His cuts are nuts.

As for Cranberry PA growing.Growth don't mean crap.The whole country grew over the last 10 years - --so what we are broke what good did the growth do?

Nevada grew percentage wise and their broke with some of the nations highest rate of rotting homes.I would rather be in a small area that has money than a big one that is broke.

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41redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

geromajor, I went back and looked at my posts and could not find where I had made any statement referring to cutting 50% of the funding to our food producers.

I also read this report a couple times and listened to all the speeches and did not find any reference to your subject.

Why are you asking me this question as if I had made a prior statement concerning this?

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42redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

fd, Thanks for no Caps!

#1 Corporate taxes.. yes, prices will go up but not as much if you do not keep raising taxes on employers.

#2 Thanks for the win!

#3 You emphasize that you are not stupid and then you misspell the word "losing". Ask some third grader the difference between the word "losing" and "loosing." Is loosing even a word?

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43redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

fd, Forgot to add that if a few unions bite the bullet it would not break my heart. They have served their purpose (quite well years ago) but now they are just a money maker for the leaders. I am kind of partial to thinking for myself so I would not be a good union member!

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44redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Everybody needs to remember that when you propose a budget you go for the max, in whatever direction you are going so that you have wiggle room. There will be negotiating before this is a done deal.

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45BackToYtown(3 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Yes, parts of this budget do suck, but it is a budget without the effects of federal stimulus monies. It is time to figure this out for ourselves, and not allow big government to do it for us on a temporary basis. We are all going to have to feel the pain to get out of our massive, self induced debt.

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46Jake(112 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

It's called "reality", children of the left, and the adults now have to clean up the garbage left by the Dems spending spree that created this mess. You can't continually keep spending beyond your means and not expect to suffer the consequences down the road.

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47fd6636(254 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

redvert: all you can get me on is spelling lose wrong?? really?? Remember bullet bitter, most of what you have today is because of unions. Do you get ups packages delivered to your house? get electric? who do you call when phone is out?? hummmm..............

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48fd6636(254 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

revert: Repubs in office for 16 years. Dems in office for 4 years. are you telling me that in 4 years, strickland and the dems ran up 8 billion in debt? I don't think he could of if he wanted to! Whats the old saying: don't throw stones at glass houses?
You think its all good, wait till it affects you!!!!!

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49fd6636(254 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Sorry, spelled your name wrong, silly me Redvert !!!

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50dott191(7 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

I am a democrat... but will vote either way if I feel it is the right thing to do. Don't tax the rich more... just equal. Same percentage across the board. We all take cuts and NO ONE gets raises. I am a state employee. The people cutting my money are making 4 to 8 times more than me. Yet, they got raises. Everyone pays more for retirement and health. We all work, even if it is a sit down job. I have a retarded cousin that has held a job for 30 years putting nuts and bolts together.

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51fd6636(254 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

Dott: the only thing I have to say to you is..............AMEN!!!!!!

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52FormerRes(39 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

So, where does it end? Cutting $$$ from services in order to give new tax breaks to big business (btw, I am ALL for giving tax breaks to SMALL businesses) What is the FINAL OUTCOME? Who wins?

Ohio used to be a place where people came from all over the world to build a life. Now it is a state that people MOVE OUT OF! UNTIL you all devise a way to make OHIO a magnet state, then the best and brightest move away and you lose the spark that makes you great.

Make OHIO a state that small business entrepreneurs WANT to be in , move to, do business in. THAT Is where the jobs are.

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53cityslicker(21 comments)posted 3 years, 1 month ago

I thought it was supposed to be all about bringing jobs to Ohio, instead Kasick is going after people with jobs.

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54GoodPerson(15 comments)posted 3 years ago

Here we go.................

Republicans at their best.............

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55Philo(99 comments)posted 3 years ago

Cut all public sector salaries and benefits by 15% across the board, then see how many employees quit. If the churn or turnover is manageable, cut another 7% next year. That will resolve the budget issues and get costs back in line. It will also help encourage these underpaid, overworked public sector employees to go out and find more meaningful and satisfying work in the private sector, where we all have it so great.

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56educadmin(2 comments)posted 3 years ago

It sickens me to see so many Kasich supporters. Eliminating collective bargaining rights for the working poor (I mean middle class) is the wrong place to make cuts. We are barely surviving on our salaries. We work overtime without pay afterschool and through the summer. Some of us even have 2-3 side jobs to supplement our income to pay off our student loans because we chose to better ourselves. Now we are looking at having to do even more with less in the classrooms (only our students will suffer) and our wallets eventually. Here's an idea! How about slashing the salary of the overpaid dictators in this state? That's where the cuts need to be made. Go visit your local school. Spend a week living the life of your average teacher. You WILL feel differently about running your mouth on how great Kasich is. Get educated! You must of been one of those who slept in class, came tardy to school everyday and could care less about anyone but yourself. It shows!

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57vor2011(13 comments)posted 3 years ago

The irony is, if you talk to people who support SB5, most of them send their children to public schools, expect prompt police and fire support, and complain relentlessly about pot holes. When you ask them why they don't send their children to South Side Academy, they are appauled by the suggestion. The bottom line is, Ohio's formula for school funding has been deemed unconstitutional by the Ohio Supreme Court countless times and still is not fixed. I believe if you get an advanced degree that is required for state licensure to teach, you should be paid accordingly. Our state government is too worried about trying to make all schools equal. Building new schools in communities that cannot afford to build them on their own. Youngstown and Warren have brand new building, while Boardman, Poland and Canfield, the communities with the largest tax bases do not. When will residents of these communities stand up and say enough is enough... we pay local taxes to have great schools, and our states tax dollars go to build schools in other communities. Is any one else tired of paying for schools in and out of their communities? The Gov. has a background in bankrupting large enterprises. If he is so concerned about a balanced budget, why not work for $1 a year and live in the Gov. mansion instead of costing the tax payers millions to add security to his private residence while still having to maintain the mansion. If he is concerned with the budget, who allocate monies for bonuses for his cabinet members in SB5. Why not make cuts in state departments that provide services that are reduntant to those already being offered at the county. Why not cut Senate and House salaries which are more than most public employees for people who work 2 days a week while in session. Why not hold charter schools to the same standards as public schools so that the ineffective ones are closed permantly, not reopened in a new name... which would bring monies back to schools that are working. Again... the irony is most of the people who write these comments have not even read SB5 or the Gov's budget. The bottom line is, as a republican, I am smart enough to see that this is bad for all of us and our children. Maybe we all need to start electing people who actually represent us. The median income of the U.S. House and Senate is over $950,000 a year? How many of us are truly being represented. Instead, the wealthy government officials turn us all against eachother on issues like this, so we don't notice how bad we are being abused on the other end. Let's all stand together for the majority in this country - the MIDDLE. By the way, if you make between $35,000 and $500,000 a year, you are the middle in this country and none of you are being represented.

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58educadmin(2 comments)posted 3 years ago

Amen vor2011

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59Philo(99 comments)posted 3 years ago

It's unfortunate for the taxpayers that most of them don't know what a glut of teachers there are in this valley. I'd bet my last dollar that if you implemented a 15% across the board cut in salaries and benefits you wouldn't see 2-percent of the teachers quit. When the teachers union talks about losing "highly qualified professionals" it is truly an empty threat. The dirty little secret is out. These crybaby teachers can be replaced at the drop of a hat!

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