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Boy, 17, killed in S. Side violence



Published: Sat, July 30, 2011 @ 12:10 a.m.

By John W. Goodwin Jr.

jgoodwin@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Police are investigating two shootings that, almost simultaneously, disrupted the quiet in two South Side neighborhoods Friday afternoon and left a teenage boy dead.

Police were called to the corner of Evergreen Avenue and Summer Street shortly after 2 p.m. for a shooting between two factions.

One person involved, a 17-year-old boy police have not identified, was killed.

Police Capt. Rod Foley said the boy was taken to a hospital, where efforts to save his life failed.

Just before 2:30 p.m., officers were called to the area of Pasadena Avenue and Gibson Avenue for another shooting. The Pasadena Avenue shooting was described as a rolling gunbattle between two cars.

Witnesses in the Pasadena shooting initially said one of the cars involved rolled into a nearby field. A man jumped from one of the cars and ran off limping, but it was unclear if he had been shot.

Witnesses at the Summer Street shooting said someone came from behind a set of bushes in the area of Summer and Evergreen and engaged in a shootout with a group of young men who were at a house in the 1900 block of Summer.

Foley said the investigation is early, but police have potential suspects in the shooting.

“Three to four individuals got into some sort of altercation where gunfire erupted and this young man was killed,” he said. “We have people of interest, but no arrests have been made.”

Police arrested 18-year-old Delord Green and charged him with tampering with evidence and discharging a firearm within city limits. Police transported Green, 1916 Summer St., to the Mahoning County Sheriff’s Office. Green is not believed to be the person who fired the fatal shots, police said.

During the initial investigation, police arrested Jesse Harden, 20, for misconduct at an emergency, according to a police report.

One witness said one man was clearly shot and almost collapsed in a field not far from the where the shooting took place, but ran off. Those living near the shooting said it sounded as if about 20 rounds were exchanged in the shootout, including from what sounded like a shotgun.

Some of those at the scene believe one or more of the shooters hid firearms at the back of a Summer Street home. Police spent several minutes combing the brush and wooded area behind the house. Detectives could be seen carrying evidence bags back to the wooded area, but it is unclear what, if anything, was collected.

Youngstown police started receiving word of gunshot victims showing up at St. Elizabeth Health Center about 2:45 p.m. and were left with the task of determining which victim was from which shooting. One man was shot in the leg, but another individual’s injuries were not detailed.

Police placed on hold for evidence a dark-colored car that one of the men arrived in at the hospital. The car was said to have been covered with blood on the inside.


Comments

1kimk1957(21 comments)posted 3 years ago

This type of scenario is why my family and I moved out of the southside and out of Youngstown. Once, the upper southside was a beautiful quiet area until they closed the old South High school. When that happened, the problems started. Kids cutting through our yards and even picking fights with local kids. We knew it was downhill from there...So,,,...we sold and moved. It's sad that this kid died.

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2UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 3 years ago

These African American youths have no family moral values because they have grown up without anything. The gang is their family. So sad!

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3whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 3 years ago

people have become immune to the violence...

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4author50(1121 comments)posted 3 years ago

Those state highway cruisers really helped ! So did ripping down vacant buildings!

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5Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years ago

We must not be quick to condemn . Police invading the hood only brings hatred and not resolution . Getting to the core of expressions within the hood involves careful study . A psychological profile of those who we deem as criminals must be established . The evaluation must include, do their needs parallel our needs ? We may have to readjust our standards and lower our expectations of what we consider normal behavior .

http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/0...

As a branch of criminal science, psychological profiling is better known in practice than by name. Although no solid evidence can be obtained from this process, it provides an accurate way of guiding the direction, in which an investigation heads toward.
Select one of the following topics for more information:

--> What is psychological profiling

--> The facts

--> Why criminals commit

--> Inductive profiling

--> Deductive profiling

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6tatiana606(1 comment)posted 3 years ago

I personally knew this young man and unfortunately he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Yes, maybe his choice of "friends" was not the best but he was not your normal teenager of this day. He had just finished volunteering his time before this incident happened. He was looking forward to his future. People are quick to judge that when a young person dies it is over gangs and drugs but this was not the case here. Then there are people who will blame the parents. Yes, I wonder where the parent of the shooter is but I know the victim's mother is a good person....cares for her family, goes to church, works, pays bills, etc. This child had morals but did make some bad decisions in life. As we all do. People also talk about what a shame it is for these things to happen but only a few will reach out to try to stop things like this. And those few people are not enough. They say it takes a community to raise a child...could you imagine the difference if everyone....rich, poor, book smart, street smart, etc. came together to try to save young people? It might not make a world of difference to all of them but it might save more lives than you think.

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7colonel34(1 comment)posted 3 years ago

This is an outrage! My nephew was a good kid although I did not get to see him much. When I would speak to him on the phone when he stopped over his grandmother's house, I would ask him what is going on and he would reply, "Nothing Uncle Stacey, just try to stay out the way!" Youngstown has not been pleasant to my family whatsoever first his dad and now him. There needs to be a big shake up in Youngstown and surrounding communities, that says this will not be tolerated. It starts with the people and is backed by law enforcement. Without the people's help they are still at a disadvantage. Once the people with bad intentions know that they are not safe on that street, neighborhood, block, house, building, or car they will have to change up their thought process or be brought down trying to do it. Those that think street justice will be done, you are wrong! It only breeds more and more violence. Come on Youngstown bring a community that could have some type of prominence out of this hell hole of a nightmare.

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8andrew1967(36 comments)posted 3 years ago

this is so sad, all I have read in the past
year is how bad Youngstown has become like I said I'm glad I moved away
to the west coast with my family

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9cheybaby2(102 comments)posted 3 years ago

If Parents were allowed To Beat there Kids Butts, These Kids Would Not Be Such Idiots, Since They Cant Control There , Shove Them Out The Door to get into trouble. Then You Have The Loser Parents. " Crack Heads, Drunk. Pure Trash " Black Mothers Did Not Put Up With Disrespect, Momma Going To Hurt You. White Parents Either Beat The Crap Out Of You, Or Kept You Working Till You Dropped. Drugs & Gangs Are Killing Your Children, Its Time You Take a stand as a Parent And Take Back Your Children.

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10cheybaby2(102 comments)posted 3 years ago

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE DO. Im one Who Bought & paid For My Gun. Its Registered And Im not Giving It Up. Not NOW ,,, Not EVER

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11USNBOY(76 comments)posted 3 years ago

WOW Cheybaby2, I actually agree with you for once.

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12Attis(864 comments)posted 3 years ago

Since this a war zone in which more Americans are being killed per capita than in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya combined, why not send our troops into Youngstown to preserve the American way of life and protect Americans? btw, we could also use those trillions of dollars being squandered overseas for some labor-intensive development around here. Sounds like a plan, right? Share it with the politicos in D.C. you will wine and dine with when you get there, OK Jay?

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13bmanresident(597 comments)posted 3 years ago

why does everyone always say we need to help the youths in the hood, we need to do this as a community? I sure as heck don;t want to help those folks that's why i don't live there. let 'em shoot each other, and eventually there wont be any left!

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14bill_smith47(2 comments)posted 3 years ago

Hey my daddy say it was the black people again they keep doing this to us .

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15Not_Gilligans_Ginger(126 comments)posted 3 years ago

IMHO, what these young men are lacking is HOPE. Does everyone understand this? In most cases they are products of their environments where they learned the only way know to survive. I implore people to read the book "A Framework for Understanding Poverty" by Ruby K. Payne. It was required reading for me when I taught at a charter school on the east side of Youngstown and was an eye-opener for me. Suddenly, I understood my students A LOT better... Let me know if any of you read it. I would be interested to see if it opened your eyes as well.

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16taxpayer1001(274 comments)posted 3 years ago

Maybe they are lacking hope, but this starts in the home. It's not just a blk thinkg it's a way of life. And as far as those saying everyone needs to help, get real. As a single mom with two kids and two jobs, I have my hands full taking care of my family. I can't be responsible for others that don't teach morals and have kids too young. If I can raise good kids that have never been in any trouble, others can do the same. TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY. It takes a lot of work but it can be done if you love your kids.

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17Askmeificare(700 comments)posted 3 years ago

All these participants chose to be there.

"Nice kids" their relatives state- Maybe.

More here is wrong than poverty and growing up in the hood. There is a lack of intelligence and common sense.

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18Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 3 years ago

Jobs won't work. Nothing will work for these young wanna be gang bangers! Once again how many young black males do you see working ANYWHERE??? Next time your out and about, notice the lack of them. But when your driving around and you see a pack of these animals, 100% there dealing drugs, setting up a score, planning a robbery, etc. Look at there social sites, disgusting filth and everyone of them has under Income: $250,000 and up. Yea right. Worthless waste is all they are.
And the same old same old, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, he had morals, he was this and he was that, dude is DEAD at 17, because of NO morals, NO respect, NO ambition but to be a gang banger, and on and on.
And the community don't need to raise the kids from the worthless parents, the PARENT or parents need to raise them. Houser MURDERS a senior citizen at a CHURCH and what does the parents do? End up in jail with the worthless POS for threatening a WITNESS! What happened to the community from the YSU shooting! Same old same old. Nothing changes but the players buried six feet under. Let them kill each other but leave the INNOCENT ones alone.
They have EVERY opportunity to better themselves with all the special things just for blacks. Grants, scholarships, etc....made up just for blacks. So that is no excuse either.
It's all excuses for them...everything under the sun, but always the same ending......nothing changes....

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19Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years ago

Life in that hood will continue unabated until jobs are provided to cut down on that 24/7 idle time that leads to crime . No, paycheck and no job then it's no freedom when caught pursuing crime . Ah yes, the freedom to choose . . .. Probation should only be given when they go to work .

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20thinkinbt4ever(5 comments)posted 2 years, 12 months ago

Stan, if the jobs you are suggesting is in law enforcement, they tried that. They didn't succeed, the city didn't bring in enough money to keep a full police force out there to stop these criminals, even if they could, we would just see more cop killings because these low lifes think it's 'cool' to kill and don't care about spending their lives in prison.

Now, if you mean jobs for these animals to keep themselves busy, I don't see that working either. Putting in 40 hours a week is far to daunting for these people, it's too much work when they know all they have to do is spend a few minutes a day dealing drugs or stealing property to make more money than I'll even ever see in a week with my 40 hour job.

I usually agree with you, I respect your opinions, but on this I have to take the other side. =)

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