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Start class-action suit against US

Published: Wed, July 20, 2011 @ 12:00 a.m.

Start class-action suit against US

I’m so furious with our feder- al government that I could chew nails. How dare they constantly want to cut Social Security and Medicare like they are things the federal government provides as an entitlement. They’re programs that people, as well as their employers, paid into — they are not a gift.

Here are people that have premiere retirement, excellent pay automatically increased every year, top-notch health care, plus perks and side deals they make telling you, the common person, that you have to sacrifice to help the country by giving up your retirement help.

What should happen is a class-action lawsuit brought by the citizens against the federal government for stealing the money that was in the Social Security fund. Don’t believe the lies that they perpetrate saying there was no such fund. There was and when the greedy hogs saw there was money that wasn’t spent, they got their grubby hands on it and spent for some of their pet programs, such as studying the mating habits of gnats. What should be studied are the actions of the nitwits running our country.

What is wrong with the citizenry of this great country? Are we all so interested in all of the TV trash and who is sleeping with whom and what the sports heroes are doing that we can’t or won’t keep the people that run our lives in line?

Joseph Hilko, Hermitage

No evil deed goes unpunished

J is the first letter of the al- phabet, as I see it. It’s used to spell Justice.

U is for united.

S is for safety.

T is for time, precious and priceless.

I is for important information.

C is for children to be cared for and cherished.

E is for eternity, which everyone will someday reach.

Heaven gained an angel when precious little Caylee Marie Anthony was welcomed by God into his eternal home.

May Caylee rest in peace. Even though an evil hand ended her young life, no evil deed will go unpunished.

Mary Lou Jurina, Youngstown


1cambridge(3297 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

There is one party in this country that wants to cut social security and medicare and there is one party that doesn't. Which one do you vote for?

Saving social security is easy. The cut off point that people stop contributing for the year is around $110,000. All you have to do is raise that number to $150,000 or $200,000 or whatever and problem solved.

There is one party that wouldn't raise that number a dime to keep the people that depend on those social programs they worked all their lives. There is the other party that believes people deserve a little dignity for a life's work. Guess which party is which. Which party did you vote for?

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2moniquebahe(1 comment)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Currently, the cost of health care is rising at a much higher rate than inflation. Even if we were to implement your beloved single payer, at a certain point we can not afford to pay for every new treatment and technology that comes along if we want to have any semblance of an economy. If you dont have insurance you should check out "Penny Health" for information on how to get one.

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3cambridge(3297 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

dodge2002.....you want to only pay social security to the people that paid into it.

Only a couple generations ago most women didn't work outside the home. They were homemakers and raised their children because her middle class husband made enough money to raise a family on one income.

The women from that generation are now in their 80's and older. Do you actually want to take their social security and medicare away from them?

There are people in this country that are born with debilitating conditions and people through no fault of their own suffer catastrophic injuries. What should we do with them? "Should we just club them to death and get it over with." (Lou Reed).

Or, should we just raise that paycheck deduction for a few extra weeks on people that can afford it? I hit the cut off point most every year and if I would have had to pay that deduction for the rest of the year it really wouldn't have had a effect on my lifestyle.

The government needs money to provide a civilized society for all Americans to live in. There are people in this country that do not pay their fair share.

The top 25 hedge fund managers made 22 BILLION dollars in 2010. If those 25 hedge fund managers could find a way to live on only 1 hundred million a year each that would mean they would have 19.5 billion for their own personal investment. If that 19.5 billion is held in investments for a period of time and then sold the taxes paid are at a rate of 15% instead of 35% because of the capital gains loop hole. That is only one years income for only 25 people. Do you actually think if those 25 paid at the same tax rate as the rest of us it would be a hardship on them?


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4ladiesrule(17 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Some very good points are mentioned here. We need to cut waste and fraud in SS and Medicare. Several studies show hundreds of thousands spent in the last 3 months of a persons' life on needless testing. Raise the SS threshold to $200,000.00. Foreign aid definately needs cut. Federal income tax at a flat 10% no deductions, everyone pays. This is all fair to everyone, no special interests!

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5Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

During years gone by Bill Clinton taxed Social Security and unemployment benefits . Today the libs are salivitating at enhancing their revenue stream further . Bloated government needs another pound of flesh . . ..

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6walter_sobchak(2173 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

You are confusing Social Security with SSI benefits. Soon after the FICA plan was put in place, amendments were made to covers widows and dependent children. Social security was not intended to be a welfare plan but an insurance plan based on actuarial tables. As things have been added to the program, premiums have been increased as it is supposed to be "pay as you go" and benefits are paid out of premiums of current workers. SSI is administered by the Social Security Admin. but uses funds from the US Treasury as it is welfare!

BTW, SSI benefits were started under the Nixon Adminstration, a Republican. So, I guess it's the Republican Party that should be thanked for SSI!

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7HowlandCitizen(34 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

This has nothing to do with Republicans vs Democrats. Both parties have robbed the Social Security fund.

Upper middle class and rich people collect Social Security when they reach 62 or 65 as well, so long as they paid into it. If we up the cut off to $200,000, the payments to these people who pay 6.2% of $200,000 of their income their entire lives will collect more when they retire. Also, rich people tend to have longer life spans, as they are less likely to engage in as many risky activities and because of a large number of other reasons. So they would collect more, longer. Your idea might not be one that saves Social Security, but one that helps bankrupt it.

Now, if we cut payouts to 6.2% of the first $100,000 and still made people pay 6.2% of $200,000, that wouldn't be fair to the employer who has to match it, or the person who is giving $12,400/year away (counting the employers match), when they can put that money in their personal 401k.

The way to fix Social Security is to put it back in its own fund and phase it out entirely over the next 30-40 years.

Make a mandatory personal retirement fund, that can only be invested in top rated securities. 10% of personal income and a 10% employer match of the first $50,000, and a 7.5% match of the next $50,000, and a 1% match of anything greater than $100,000. Something that one can choose to cash out when they're 65, or set up monthly payments. Something that the government has no control over, outside the requirement that it is mandatory. This way everyone has a retirement fund and the government can't get their greedy hands on our money.

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