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State denies funds to clean up Boardman nursery nuisance

Published: Tue, July 19, 2011 @ 12:00 a.m.


The Vindicator ( Youngstown)

Mill Creek MetroParks did not receive a state grant to purchase the former Inglis Greenhouse on Southern Boulevard and restore it to nature. That property has been declared a nuisance. The park district, however, did secure a $225,000 grant to add land to the Mill Creek Preserve near the intersection of Western Reserve and Tippecanoe roads.

By Ashley Luthern



Mill Creek MetroParks has put its plans for the former Inglis Greenhouse on Southern Boulevard on hold after not receiving a $300,000 grant to restore the property.

The MetroParks applied for grants from the Clean Ohio Conservation Fund to add more land to two township park locations and return that land to nature, said Justin Rogers, planning manager for the park system.

The park wanted to acquire the former greenhouse property, and add it to the adjoining 24-acres that the park already owns, which contain the Cranberry Run tributary.

“We’re still interested, but we’ve more or less exercised all of our options for grant funding,” Rogers said. “I don’t know how aggressively we’ll pursue anything from this point on.”

The $300,000 grant would have covered 75 percent of the project cost with the remaining 25 percent paid for by the Mill Creek MetroParks Foundation, Rogers said. The cost of demolishing the greenhouse was not included in the grant.

The park district did secure a $225,000 grant to add land to the Mill Creek Preserve near the intersection of Western Reserve and Tippecanoe roads, Rogers said.

The grant will pay 75 percent of the total project cost, and park foundation will pay the remaining 25 percent.

Township Zoning Inspector Anna Mamone said the situation with the former greenhouse remains the same from the township’s perspective.

“It still remains an eyesore. ... It just remains a problem property,” Mamone said.

The property has been declared a nuisance. Mamone said the most recent home-rule violation sent this week to the California-based property owners Beck & Co. contains a $500 fine. The fines could reach $1,000 if the property is not cleaned and maintained, she added.


1whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

seems like eyesores run in the lutz family.

look at that junk of a building owned by lutz on midlothian wonder if they are related

bunch of sticks cemented in the ground with childs writing all over the building with paint.

maybe thats ludts not lutz.

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2Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The pictures show the future of Boardman . Please folks get your heads out of the sand and help. Just look all the closed stores .

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3dano0513(9 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Why is Metro Parks trying to buy this, keep the money in the current park, reopen some of those roads morons, they want to buy a plot in boardman AGAIN !?!???

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4Joe306tow(49 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

If this Lutz family is the former owners of the abandoned Greenhouses, and is playing a shell game and making officials think the property is now owned by a California company when it is not, then I say do the following:

1.) Have @youcantsilencetruth prove his above statements.

2.) If he statements are found to be true, then someone in the Boardman city hall (property tax) needs to be fired for incompetence, or at the county level which ever applies.

3.) After proving that the Lutz family still owns said nuisance property, the city and county, should go after them for all back taxes owed and fines for building code violations, and work out a deal that all back taxes and fines will be removed in exchange for the property deed.

This way the Park gets the land for free, and their portion (of funds under the original grant) can be used to demolish and clean up the site and pay back taxes.

If it is proved that a California company or bank owns the property, then the same should apply, land seizure in exchange for back taxes and fines.

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5NoBS(2390 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Joe - Boardman doesn't have a "city hall" - it's an unincorporated township. It doesn't have the power to do anything but collect property taxes.

If Boardman were to incorporate and become a city, things like this would be handled more easily. But the Three Amigos would lose their power-trip jobs, so it won't ever happen.

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6apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Freeatlast thinks that more taxes will solve the issue of closed stores. It will exacerbate the issue. Taking almost 4 million out of the hands of consumers and giving it to a government that has wasted millions of inheritance dollars is a fools solution.

Incorporation is also not the answer. Building in an even larger cost structure for that wasteful government.

NoBS would love it though. He could have his entire family drinking from the golden trough.

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7apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Nature will eventually destroy what's left of the former greenhouse. No need to waste hundreds of thousands to speed that up. It's so far back from the road that it's hardly noticeable. We will continue to see Boardman articles for another 2 weeks though.

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8DwightK(1458 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Aside from it being illegal, is there any reason the property can't be knocked down and returned tonature? If the owners crawl out from under a rock tell them the township will settle any lawsuit for the back taxes and everyone walk away happy.

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Excellent place to start a pot plantation . This would generate plenty of money to spruce the place up and boost the local economy .



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10Bigben(1996 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The park will get the land eventually.It is a matter of time.

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11Bigben(1996 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The boom times of the 80's are long gone. Drive through Boardman these days and it's nothing but empty stores and lots of "For Rent" and "For Sale" signs in front of houses. So glad I moved out of the area over a decade ago.

- -- The stores started closing in Boardman when the Great Deceptions hit in the 2000s.Boardman didn't have those troubles in the 1990s either.This last Great deception in 2008 caused a lot of places to go under.However it is still the major commercial area for Mahoning County.

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12republicanRick(1543 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Find out who owns the property and tell them to fix it up. If they refuse, fine the hell out of them. Boardman should quit being so passive with these property owners who don't perform basic maintenance.
Boardman trustees shrink and cringe and muddle around and hope some other government agency, Mill Creek Parks, will bail them out and show how to manage real estate. Pathetic leadership by Boardman trustees.

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13Bigben(1996 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Well said joat. The financial crisis hit other areas too it wasn't just a Boardman thing.

There has been some improvements .I worry more about the looming financial crisis of the country and how that affects business rather than faulting the owners of all the local businesses.

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14apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

How come those crack new zoning geniuses can't figure this out? Is this what happens when you hire former cops and former county workers with little to no zoning experience?

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15apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Here comes the attacks of the township employees. Taxpayers can never call them out for corruption, lies, and malfeasance. When you hire IT coordinators with little experience and now zoning people with little to non experience, the taxpayers suffer. But Kotheimer will no doubt complain about the curb cuts.

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16Lifes2Short(3879 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Have the inmates clean up the area for free instead of sitting around plotting there next crime or watching TV and playing cards. Works in Medina county.

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17apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Good work youcantsilencetruth. Sounds like you might have run across the real reason this property is suddenly on the front page. Get the taxpayers to pay for the property cleanup instead of the owner. Another scam.

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18apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

They are all too busy trying to get another levy passed to have anything online. Not even recent crime stats because they'd paint a picture not for public consumption. They rather like the rampant crime myth better. Everything I get is by request only. That way, they can see who is the enemy. Nothing comes easy. First time I asked, they tried to get me to pay for 100+ sheets of paper at 10 cents a sheet. I said I wanted them electronically. Finally someone there figured out what that meant. Kotheimer gave me the evil eye last time I picked up the CD with the salaries.

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19taxpayer1001(274 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Apparently they don't pursue it much since this property is a year behind on property tax. I doubt an individual could get away with that on their home. There are also nuisance laws that should cover this being such an eyesore. They should be able to clean this up and bill the title holder, just like houses. If you don't mow and the city has to, they bill you quite a bit.

Life2short-you are so right, along with many others who have made that suggestion. Why aren't these properties being cleaned up with inmates? they have everything paid for them becuase they broke the law. Why let them sit in airconditioning and watch tv when they can actually be of use to the community that they wronged? (and that is supporting them) Or even people on welfare/food stamps/medical/free cell phone etc could be out there doing some of the work. They aren't working for their money, so why not??

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20Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

You are right Apollo !!! Things are great in our town , property values are going up, businesses are moving in and there is no crime out here!!! We live in paradise . . You win ??? SO why are you moving to Austintown or Canfield . GET your head out of the sand . Maybe you should get one line of BS .Have a nice day and do not let the door hit you in the ^ss as you move .We need people who will help and not be part of the problem . I have rentals in both and will give you a deal. I just saw the duplex in Boardman today for sale for 48.000 lock stock and barrel.

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21TAXEDOFF(118 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

As your post indicates you are a AHOLE!




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22livevalley(23 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Its funny many people have comments on this, think they know alot because they look things up on the web but they really do not have it all. Inglis filed bankrupcy and lost that property a few years ago. It is owned out of state but like many things records are not updated online. An Inglis has not owned or been involved in that business for MANY years, the last being an ederly man that choose to live in a camper at the rear of the property. He died many years ago. The Lutz family has owned it for years by marriage. It was 3 brothers and a sister. Somehow one of the brothers wives got in there and is now the driving force for the Lutz greenhouse. Econonic times ruined that business and the need to upgrade the heaters was to costly. Once one of the brothers died it seems reality set in. The sad part of that property is it is now a wet land because of years of NEEDED repair by the county on a broken storm sewer that was NEVER repaired. There should be a small stream on the property for runoff but its a small pond/lake with wet lands. Takes about 4-5 acers. Also the other concern is that green house is from the 1920's and was an old tomatoe greenhouse. Do people know how many TONS of DDT and other toxic chemicals were used for years when it was legal. If that was properly disclosed it would probably qualify for federal money for clean up. Now that the greenhouse is open with broken windows were is that runoff going. In that broken storm sewer. I think when the Lutz's left they knew down the line the issues and gave up that property for you and I to pay. Sorry on my spellings I was typing to fast.

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23Askmeificare(810 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@ carlstaatz:

You are right.

Or start handing out gloves to county inmates and put them to work.

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24Bigben(1996 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Hey Vindy how about making my posts public. Pretty crappy shutting me down don't you think?

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25whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

RE : TAXEDOFF stop trying to message me for gay sex go to craigslist you perverted FREAK

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26apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Sorry Kim Kotheimer, but men who are 5 foot 9 inches tall and weigh 175 pounds do not scare me. I was probably in a hurry and laughing so hard tears were streaming.

As for Boardman being paradise, I guess if increasing taxes makes a community paradise, maybe we should just send in all our incomes and let the party begin. Typical Democrats, thinking more taxes is the solution to everything.

Heck, at least 3 former cops are criminals. That's a good percentage for supposed crime fighters.

Vote no. More taxes will do exactly the opposite of what they are claiming. Paying the townships employees more won't permit them to keep out anyone. Higher property taxes will cause more houses to become vacant, more stores to close, and property values to decline.

Taking almost 4 million dollars out of the taxpayers pockets certainly won't make businesses in Boardman more prosperous.

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27apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Silence, I think you are on the correct trail. Obviously some connected individuals are trying to get the taxpayers to take care of some worthless property. Maybe if Boardman had some real zoning people like Crivelli instead of the goof ball political hacks we do have, they could solve it. Instead we get a former cop who helped Calhoun get elected by notifying him of his poor "rate my teacher" website ratings, and a former county worker who needed a job and they advertised the position, got about a dozen resumes and then interviewed ONE applicant whose qualifications are questionable but whose connections are good.

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28livevalley(23 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

As you see silae"youcantsilencetruth" has and did note the ownership route. And like said I am sure that property was bundled and sold a couple of times to others. I do think the county should be up on this but like so much they are not. What can we do but speak with our vote. As for the drainage problem, I spoke with the old owners MANY times about it and it went back and forth with the county on the broken pipe/line and about being repaired. They many times wanted to expand but could not because of the water problem and the county always defaulted on the problem because I feel it was not hurting home owners and in fact made a drainage pond at not cost to them during bad storms. The bottom line is years of battleing cause this small problem to become major. The positive on it is that it caused tons of neat wildlife to move in and when that greenhouse was open I saw fox, deer, herrings and so much more within feet of you. As for the DDT, they went bankrupt, lost ownership of the property and I really think no one ever considered that. Remember that was about 50 years of those chemicals before they were out lawed. Lots of that crap went into the ground and into the water. Funny how no one even thought of that at the county, township or state. Lets get some Federal funds they hand out and clean it up. Comment also on the bad cops, lets not forget there are bad politicions, bad businesses owners and so on. THANK GOD they were found out and outed. Probably still one or two bad ones in every towns force but they all get caught. As for zoneing, a person does what they can on the budget they have. NEVER have we had so many vacant houses and other problems. Zoneing was a sit back job and wait for the new store to be built. Now its a CSI track down dead beat owners type job.

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29seminole(476 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Boardman is trying to get his sh--house cleaned up, yet there are houses all over residential areas that look just as bad. Broken sidewalks, overgrown bushes, tree branches hanging down onto the sidewalk, tarps hanging off roofs, all kind of trashed-out lots. Zoning does not do a thing, even when called to a specific address to look at broken sidewalks and hanging trees. Typical Boardman performance: NONE!!!

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30apollo(1227 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Maybe it's because the zoning hires are unqualified. A former cop hired for political payback and a former county worker with little to no zoning experience might be the cause. She could sell you a pair of glasses however.

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