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Teen driving stolen car held in death of 9-year-old



Published: Fri, July 15, 2011 @ 11:42 a.m.

YOUNGSTOWN

A teenage boy driving a stolen car and running from police is responsible for the Thursday night accident that killed a 9-year-old boy from the city.

The 16-year-old suspect is being held at the juvenile justice center, but police are not releasing his name until they confer with prosecutors about the charges he will be facing.

According to police, the 9-year-old boy was riding in a Ford Explorer on Boston Avenue with his 27-year-old mother Tammy Sadler of Youngstown at 11:21 p.m. when a Ford Taurus driven by the teen went through a stop sign at Hudson Avenue and hit the truck.

Sadler and an 11-year-old girl, Tabrasia Gray, were hospitalized after the accident. Sadler’s son was ejected from the truck and killed, but police are not releasing his name until the family has been notified.

For more on this story see Saturday’s Vindicator and Vindy.com.


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1Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Now the police will be blamed because they were chasing the young boy .

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2DwightK(1304 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Charge him as an adult. If he wants to act like a man, treat him like one.

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3Fred(131 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Just a thought.Would the owner of the car be responsible for the damages and would his insurance have to pay?I know that they won't get any money from the boy who was driving.

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4walter_sobchak(1982 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Very sad. A young life tragically ended. But, the question must be asked: was he properly strapped in by seat belts? Being ejected from a vehicle will never end with good resuls. It is a matter a physics. Parents must properly restrain children!

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5Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I hope that Jay doesn't fire the cop who was in pursuit . Jays policy of toleration in the hood may still be in force .

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6lynnie812(1 comment)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Wow so sad

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7Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

"A teenage boy driving a stolen car and running from police is responsible for the Thursday night accident that killed a 9-year-old boy from the city."

A 9 year old innocent boy killed because of a useless teenage animal driving a stolen car. What a waste of human flesh. Pitiful excuse of human DNA.

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8Attis(922 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

That makes two young lives within one month snuffed out by a wild police chase. Vehicular homicide by the police is beginning to match gun homicides by the thugs on the South Side. A new tactic in the war on poverty by killing poor youth one by one...?

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

So the boy should be released because it was the fault of the police ?

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10jimbob(7 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Attis! You are the reason why cops are afraid to do their job. you sound like you would be one of the first to sue the police if something would happen to you or a family member. but you are also probably one of those two faced as# H*leS that bitch cause the police don't do anything. pick a side and stick to it. you can't be on both sides at once.

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11Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

attis

"Vehicular homicide by the police is beginning to match gun homicides by the thugs on the South Side"

Why don't you blame the ANIMALS for stealing the cars instead of the Police. The young wanna be gangstas are the cause of it, NOT the police. The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

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12Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Attis feels that the only way that the young boy could enjoy a car was to steal one . This is in the culture and is termed as entitlement . The police upset his enjoyment of the car . He will be out soon and will get other chances to acquire cars in the future .

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13Fred(131 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

How to get a car the old fashioned way.Steal it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZSLm...

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14jimbob(7 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Fred,
Thanks for posting that link! It clearly shows the brutality of these young punks that have no care about other people. I'd invite that kid in the video to jack my car. He would be the one laying on the ground wondering what happened.

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15michael1757(294 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I forget who said at the beginning of this response thing,but how can you say the kid wasn't to blame because he was only out for a joy ride. What's with you? If he were out driving a car that belonged to him,it would have turned out different? He stole it,& got caught,but sadly at the expense of a human life. A families baby. A shame. Charge him,book him,& throw the key away. Yeah,I know. Only till he's 18 in juvie,but it should be extened till at least 21.

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16Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

The video where the old man had his car stolen makes no sense . Somebody who witnessed the event taking place took the video . Others watching weren't disturbed a bit over what was taking place . Nobody tried stopping the attack . So no one seen anything wrong with what was happening ? This truly shows the mentality of the hood .

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17Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

So what does this have to do do with a young boy wanting a car ?

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18dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

You can't blame the police. The boy would probably have been speeding and running lights and stop signs even if the cops weren't chasing him. He obviously doesn't follow laws.

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19Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

That young boy didn't have a fully developed mind and we should not blame him for the accident . If the Ford Taurus hadn't been available for him to take this never would have happened . The owner of the vehicle may be at fault for not installing an anti theft module . The car would not have started for the boy if the car had been so equipped . Now the boy may be irreparably harmed by the trauma that he has experienced . Hopefully a social worker with comapassion will be assigned to his case and allow him to get treatment and not be warehoused like a common criminal .

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20cgroves(3 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Does anyone see that there are TWO tragic happenings here? #1--a life of a child has been taken too soon. #2--another child is responsible for that death? How sad for both of those families.Life's lessons can be learned or rejected and unfortunately, one child chose to reject a lesson on stealing. The Police were doing what they were supposed to do and had they not done their job, I suppose there would be comments on the LACK of enforcement of our laws by Police who look the other way.

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21greeneyez(5 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

As a family member of this 9yr old little boy, I find the comment about the 16 year old being a "dirty bomb welfare child" is extremely offensive and unnecessary. As easy as it is for me to hate him, his family is also suffering a loss tonight. Even tho our family will never get to see him graduate or get married... over something so unnecessary, this young mans family has to live with the guilt of this the rest of their lives. This could have happened in any neighborhood.. sad horrible tragedies happen in all shapes sizes and colors. My heart goes out to his family as well.. but I dont know how mine will overcome this.. we have been through so much...

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22greeneyez(5 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

and the other comments referring to food stamps and other offensive, racist innuendo,.. my little 9yr old cousin is DEAD...gone. I guess if this was a little white girl in the suburbs killed by old white man drunk driving.. it would be more tragic to you? Leave it to the conservative a$$holes to turn this tragedy into something political. A life was taken and my cousin will never get to hold her son again.. never see him smile.. Unless u have something productive to say.. please refrain from saying anything.

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23Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I doubt if this young fellow can grasp the concept of stealing . To him it was more like sharing the car . No different than kids sharing toys .

With such a violent crash he no doubt has injuries also . He should have been taken to a hospital and checked over . I see no mention of this being done . Nothing can be done for the deceased but the living should be looked after .

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24greeneyez(5 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Margetilchunk-- call it what it is.. you're talking about black people. Pretty it up how u want.. but our family is well respected, educated, active in the church, hardworking in the community...and black. Color or social status had nothing to do with this little boy dying. Stop labeling and making ur political soap box stance here.. and ur half-ass.. "sorry for the loss of life" is condescending and unacceptable.. get a heart.. better yet... find ur humanity and realize these are human beings suffering a loss they will never recover from.. You are whats wrong with society.. not these kids.

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25Snoopy01(10 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Greeneyez so sorry for your loss. You are aboslutely correct. There is a family that will never hold their child again and all you people can think about is race and hatred. Yes a 16 year old stole a car and killed this child. Is he from the Hood? Is he black? Is he in a gang? Is he on welfare? Is he roaming the streets at 3 am?? Dont know, dont care right now. Right now all you should be thinking about is how sad that a 9 year old child is dead.

Margetilchunk - how do you know these 16 year olds room the streets at 3 am? How do you know these families are on welfare? How do you know they dont have productive parents? You are making judgemental comments that are part of the problem. I am a white educated woman that finds the overall lazy black or white person on welfare discusting. But you are ASSuming which makes you the A**.

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26feedup(1 comment)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

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Sad..And Ignorant People One Here..Get A Life..!! Everytime Sumthing Happens In Y-Twn Ya'll Alway's Assuming..Black,White, Purple Or Brown..Do It Matter.? Rich Poor, Middle Class..SHUT DA HELL UP ALREADY..!!! Acting Like Ya'll Kind NEVER DO CRIME..I THINK NOT..!!! lol..

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27Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

feedup

"Acting Like Ya'll Kind NEVER DO CRIME..I THINK NOT..!!! lol.."

So Vehicular homicide is OK in your eyes? Just another crime. Really?

greeneyez

<<<<"I guess if this was a little white girl in the suburbs killed by old white man drunk driving.. it would be more tragic to you?">>>>

Have to start the racist bit. Don't you ever get tired of that?

<<<<"You are whats wrong with society.. not these kids.">>>>>

So the young animals are not the problem? It's the adults on here that are sick and tired of innocent people dying from these young wanna be gangstas. Shooting elderly ladies in a church parking lot, mistaking a elderly couple for gang members, Shooting up a party near YSU and on and on. So what do they have all in common? Murder! But it's people that comment on the Vindy that is the problem. Really?

Snoppy

<<<Margetilchunk - how do you know these 16 year olds room the streets at 3 am? >>>

Take a ride on the Southside at 3am and come back on here and tell us what you see. Especially on the weekend. Good Luck.

Once again, this is a article about a INNOCENT 9 year old boy that was KILLED by a young wanna be gangsta eluding police in a stolen car. The 9 year old boy is not even named in this article, this article is about a Homicide! Save the condolences for the right time, this is not it, this is about another homicide by a young punk! Comprehend?

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28VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

A sincere and heartfelt sympathy to Tammy Sadler and her family for the loss of a dear 9 year old son.

As for the 16 year old .... take him to the funeral home and show him what this end result created...make him sit there the entire wake/viewing.

(off the subject...dui school presents films, field trip to hospitals, even a morgue etc )

This is far from pleasant but reality.

He definitely faces multiple charges.

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29greeneyez(5 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Jay1981 - thank u for proving my point. Angry, name-calling and finger-pointing at others....

To those who have expressed sincere condolences, the family appreciates and needs it at this difficult time, thank u.

LifesTooShort- No. Im not from Ytown, but I have a large number of family there. I do know there is a serious crime problem involving young black males... My point was, a lot of the problem stems from people using these stereotypes for all of them, giving up on those who are trying to make something of themselves and never getting the chance. Yes, it all starts from personal responsibility, but part of that is also making sure we put back into our communities, voting for people that will make education and job creation priority... even in the hood... Most of these young men are intelligent ppl making stupid decisions because ppl have already given up on them and assume they are criminals.

My family has been victim to its share of the Youngstown violent crime rate, trust me. I know what its like to see what the victims families have to live with.. but it doesn't make me a skeptic, it makes me want to make things better instead of sitting around talking about how bad it is. I haven't given up on these young men and women and neither should u.

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30Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I see legal ramifications here under the heading of availability and culpability . If alcohol is available to minors there is the issue of culpability . Cars in the hands of minors are very deadly as can be seen by the outcome of this accident and more so than just an intoxicated minor without the car . The owner of the car had an obligation to compromise the availability of that car . This wasn't done as the minor had no difficulty in acquiring it . This young man's mother should retain legal council to ensure that his victimization is adequately compensated .

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31woolyd(579 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

RIP to the little child and God please help this family during this time.
Yes most of these kids killed on the street are black as are most of the perps are black but this is a problem for all of society. The black population needs to preach more accountability such as Malcolm X did and as most recently Bill Cosby. Stop listening to those political leaders who want to blame everything on racism. Young black men pull up your pants over your azz (do you even know what it means when they are hanging low) go to school, and parent your kids. Black women stop making babies with thugs who will die on the streets, if he doesnt take care of the first one dont have another, and please stop making babies with other men who have 3-4 kids and dont take care of them.
White people please stop with the snide and condescending comments about what goes on in the hood. Help make a change since most of you have the power to do so, stop saying racism and classism doesnt exist it does. And remember the more the haves get and the more the have nots dont the more crime will be comitted and it will spill into all the communities of the valley. It may be a Ytown thing now but with our economy and the greed of government,law enforcement, and society mixed with the poor mans desire to have what they dont it will get worse. Also remember we live in a society where every company, agency,etc charges fees and tries to siphon as much money out of people as possible without earning it. So if that our countrys mindset does it surprise anyone that this is the minset of the have nots? It shouldnt this society is based on hustling and stealing by any meansm necessary not what it was once based on which was hard work

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32Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

The hood is what it is and can only be changed from within . This accident is not about the hood . It is about getting a car by the only means that was available to this teen . He was too young to understand the consequences . If the car was properly secured he would have been unable to take it and this tragedy would not have happened .

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33Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em55RS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al8bfO...

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34greeneyez(5 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

..not sure what the videos are supposed to explain..interesting.. but wrong. I have never used racism as an excuse... but I also am not naive enough to believe it doesn't exist. I have seen it.. its there. Its there in the condescending attitudes... disapproving stares...It's also there is the more dramatic ways. Those videos take a small part of a large struggle...and use it as an excuse to get out of a racist attitude. Yes.. there is a small group of blacks that are angry, and have used racism as a crutch.. but I believe in just changing peoples minds...killing em with kindness and their own medicine if u will. I believe no matter what life, the government, society.. is throwing at you,, you have a responsibility to show u are just as good as anyone else. Maybe even stronger despite having to struggle more. You cant expect the cycle to break if the schools dont have the same access to resources that the kids in the suburbs have... the cycle will continue if the community doesnt improve. Personal responsibility is always key, but that doesn't mean others who are doing the suffering should give themselves a pass.. especially if they are just complaining about it and not actually contributing positively to the problem.

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35Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Racism goes both ways. It don't matter the skin of the person it's whats inside.

{{{{"Maybe even stronger despite having to struggle more."}}}}

What struggles? Maybe 50 years ago, but today? I would really like to hear this.

{{{{You cant expect the cycle to break if the schools dont have the same access to resources that the kids in the suburbs have... the cycle will continue if the community doesnt improve.}}}}}

I've been to East High School, It's a gorgeous building and great teachers who care. The technology is there, but it's the kids that have to use it. They have to want to be there to learn. The 1st week when the school opened, the students trashed the bathrooms, because they knew there was no cameras in there. Amazing.

"especially if they are just complaining about it and not actually contributing positively to the problem."

I do my part. I'm a felon and I go to local schools and jails and talk about the dangers of drinking and drugging and the lifestyle. Been there done that and paid the price.

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36woolyd(579 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Life if you are a former felon who has been rehabilitated why are you so anti rehabilitating these other individuals? I ask this because you tend to always pass judgement and say these people are useless scum. Are you useless scum too?

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37woolyd(579 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Quail, its is awfully hard to ask God to help a family before the tragic accident when i did not know they existed. Hell if i was that psychic i would have been there to stop the accident.

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