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Pavlik brothers have bout at parents’ home



Published: Tue, July 12, 2011 @ 12:09 a.m.

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Michael Pavlik

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Kelly Pavlik

By John W. Goodwin Jr.

jgoodwin@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Former middleweight boxing champion Kelly Pavlik’s most recent fight appears to have been with his older brother at their parents’ South Side home.

Youngstown police filed a report Friday stating that Kelly Pavlik, 29, and Michael Pavlik Jr., 35, were at the Cornell Street home owned by their parents when the brothers were involved in a disagreement. Michael lives at the home, but Kelly lives in Canfield.

Reports say the brothers had been drinking at the time of the incident.

Kelly Pavlik was released from alcohol-abuse treatment and returned to Youngstown in January after two months of rehabilitation.

According to police, Kelly, after exchanging words with Michael, “punched the west-facing side door of the home and pulled his brother, Michael, out of the broken window.”

Reports say officers found glass to have been broken and blood on nearby steps. Michael Pavlik, police said, appeared to have minor cuts to his arms and hands, but told officers at the scene that he did not need an ambulance or medical attention.

Kelly Pavlik had left the home before officers arrived and police could not contact him for questioning. Michael Pavlik, reportedly, told officers repeatedly he did not wish to file charges against his brother.

Jack Loew, Kelly’s trainer, said he was unaware of the fight as of Monday afternoon. Several calls to Kelly Pavlik were not returned.

Kelly Pavlik, in late 2010, checked himself into the Betty Ford Center for alcohol abuse. His family also told Yahoo! Sports that Pavlik spent time in alcohol rehab earlier in 2010 before he lost to Sergio Martinez in an April 2010 fight in Atlantic City, N.J.

He won his May fight over Alfonso Lopez.

The fight between the brothers was witnessed by Michael’s girlfriend, who was at the home.

Michael Pavlik in 2009 was charged with felony domestic violence for an attack on a former girlfriend. Michael Pavlik pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of misdemeanor domestic violence in a plea agreement with county prosecutors.

He served 35 days of a 60-day county-jail sentence.


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1Not_Gilligans_Ginger(129 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

What a surprise... NOT! I don't know why people idolize Kelly Pavlik, I truly don't. He'll never sober up...

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2steelwagon(284 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

No telling why this story is newsworthy but......
Just a little spat between brothers...it happens.
My brother and I still get into now and them but it hasn't gotten violent in decades.
Probably because we're both to old and fat and don't want to exert the effort lol.

Grow up boys,shake hands and call it a draw.
Over and done with.

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3Lifes2Short(3877 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

He should NOT be drinking at all. Said it before and say it again, he needs to stop with the drinking. It's going to ruin him.

"On whether he's done with drinking altogether, "Right now, yeah. I've shown I don't need it. I can't tell you I'll never have another drink. All I can say is it hasn't crossed my mind.""

http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/feb/22...

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4Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

The bars are full of people who idolize alcohol and drugs . None of them are winners in any situation . Champions take control of their lives and abstain from the nectar of the losers . . ..

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5ytownescapee(20 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

@Lifes2Short

You are 100% right. He should not even be near alcohol let alone be drinking. He obviously has an addiction to it and anyone who is familiar with addictions know you can never use your "drug" of choice, or any other substance of abuse again.

I do not know him personally but have heard about his previous actions and abuse of alcohol. It is too bad and wish he would stay on his course of trying to sober up because he can be a good boxer and make the Youngstown area proud. Youngstown needs something to be proud of because I have a feeling that the sh*t is going to hit the fan in the near future.

He is not the only high profile resident to have a substance abuse problem. I hope he grows up and realizes he is in a position to do well if he stays with the program.

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6YtownSports(228 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Brilliant! Keep on drinking, Kelly. You have a chance to be a boozed-up "has been" before you're 30!

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7foxyglo(372 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

ONCE A DRUNK, ALWAYS A DRUNK.
HE SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN REHAB A YEAR.

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8DwightK(1256 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

35 and living at home? Come on...

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9Harley_Guy(114 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

So I see another motive here - it seems Kelly canceled a fight before due to a hand injury and now there is a news story saying he “punched the west-facing side door of the home and pulled his brother, Michael, out of the broken window.”

Would anyone be surprised if he canceled his upcoming fight due to another injury now???

LMAO - He is nothing but a joke of a loser...

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10walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Sad but predictable. Kelly has been on the short end of very bad management. Do you think promoters are going to waste money on him if he keeps crawling inside of a keg? The proper handlers would have pulled him out of his bad environment and kept him clean. I mean, who in their right mind would let this guy buy a bar or tavern? When Boom Boom was fighting, Carmen Policy controlled his world. I would say that, now, Boom Boom has a pretty good life.

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11athena62600(8 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

So what if two brothers get into it? I could care less. But the media has to jump all over this because it is Kelly. There are two sides to every story and who knows what we are not being told. We weren't there. I'm not going to sit here and start with the name calling. He is a normal human being. If his name wasn't Kelly Pavlik, this story would not have made the front page.

As far as him drinking.... there are people out there who get their head on straight and learn their limits when it comes to drinking. I hope he either stays away from alcohol or learns his limits.

Do I think he has made some wrong decisions? Yes. He needs to get away from his family for a little bit and out of Mahoning County. There are too many triggers here for him. Move a few hours away and start fresh.

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12spacemonkey14(1 comment)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Its amazing how quickly people can go from buying ringside seats to calling him a drunk. Does kicking someone when they are down make you feel good?

In addition I find it astonishing that after an assualt the person in question could not be reached. Suddenly police are politely asking suspects in assault cases for their cooperation? And all of this is going on without his trainer knowing before a fight that will determine his remaining career?

Anyone else feel like none of this adds up?

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13hurrdurr(98 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

First he has to admit to having a problem. Until then there is little hope that he will kick it.

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14jimbob(7 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

I've been saying this since Kelly-Douche punched the Y.P.D. Officer. Kelly is a worthless, ego driven dumbass. Just because he can throw his fists does not mean he should be idolized. This latest incident is Domestic Violence. If he were anyone else, the police would have hunted him down and had that person in jail that night. How many incidents and apologies do we have to read and hear about? Screw this worthless loser; put him in jail where he truly belongs.

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15Cowboyfan(105 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Sounds like Michael got "beer muscles" and Kelly had to put him in his place.

My brother brings me to the edge of violence sober.

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16Askmeificare(700 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Absolutely no class.

Haven't the parents taught them better? Haven't the parents told them as adults to get along?

The Pavlik boys don't care about their own parents and would apparently sell their own parents to the devil for a few more precious moments of notoriety,

We should tear down and recycle all the "Youngstown- Home of Kelly Pavlik" signs.

@ DwightK:

HAHA! You are right- 35 and living at home.

Pavlik = Loser family.

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17Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Sad,..

Clearly there's a problem here and it's not certainly not the origin nor hinged upon one individual either,.. they're all grown now.

Where there's no telling whats really behind all the combative discourse that's been noted in the Pavlik family. However, they're not to be singled out as anyone alleging or unfairly expecting them to be inhuman. Suffice to say sensibly they're to be seen, regarded and respected as no more nor less human than anyone else.

To share a bit of insight to ponder. Those who know, associate with and or have possibly lived one side or the other of the equation. Quiet often you find successful athletes or entertainers get the feeling of privilege. As well as being financially took off by their family members and or some assumed friends.

Where for some the adjustment of fame and even moderate fortune can be difficult. There's also others in the same and or like similar situation. Where a successful adjustment proves to be impossible.

It's not proclaiming fault but successful adjustment is a interpersonal task. Which where not all have the same pressures nor share the same family or friends. Although the constant is they have themselves and the choices they make for self is whats ultimately going to affect them, their lives, their success or avenue and even manner of failure,.. and or destruction.

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18sue(171 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Looking into the not too distant future: "Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew." On the serious side, I sincerely hope he can get his problems under control for both himself and his family.

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19VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Alcoholism is a disease and it affects over 14 million people. Some refer to it as an illness. Many thanks to the Betty Ford Clinic and AA for rehabilitation of the folks in need. Once a patient gets through channels of sobriety there are many relapse moments where a "strong" support system also come into play. An extensive and intensive addiction, treatment, and recovery team will give Pavlik Hope. Many stages in the process. Perhaps, he needs us all to be in his corner for success. Let's encourage, support, and motivate Pavlik to heal. He's young, vulnerable and "weak" battling this demon. We all have faced adversity and challenges one time or other. Please, no need for harsh words---how about compassion, support, and recognize and TRULY recognize the illness and its affects that spiral out of control. He did seek help and continues to need further help. That's admittance. This is a long journey for him to fully recover. Kelly, please know we all care and your life will turn around but give it your all ---Fight hard for this---(just like you do when you compete in the boxing ring) At this time, immediately consult the professionals as you were advised at the clinic. You can prevail in more ways than one! Do this for Yourself. ***Triumph***.

(and your brother loves you, dearly)

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20cav0822(16 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Who seriously cares about this? Is this really news worthy at all? What happens in his personal life should not have to be published. Leave the guy alone...this isn't US Weekly or Star Magazine....who cares if he is an alcoholic....there are many people out there who suffer from alcoholism and we don't read about them in Vindy.com

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21athena62600(8 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

And another thing.....

Let's not forget about the piece of crap brother. Hmmm.... Kelly may have issues but his brother has a domestic violance charge against him.

I agree with the comment about Michael having "beer muscles". Knowing him, he probably tried to push him. Kelly is known around the US and Michael seems to be a jealous prick. Someone can only take something so long before they push back.

Kelly, there are still people out there who support you. Put this behind you and just work on getting focused and your career.

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22Laurieljc(63 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

I am very disappointed BUT NOT SURPRISED at the comments that I have seen here. The negativity and ignorance astounds me. “The parents home or family home” does not mean that his parents live there. It does not mean that Kelly didn’t move his parents away and pissed his money away like was said here. It doesn’t mean that Mike or Kelly lived with their parents. Funny thing is that this story suggests none of that. Ignorance is behind every comment that says otherwise. And the mob mentality that I see in these comments sickens me. Every family has their problems. Every person who has commented here is a liar if they say that there are no problems in their family. I would love to see every person who has a negative comment here to give their first and last name and address. I would love to look at their family and post what I find here. Who is going to be first?

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23Lifes2Short(3877 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Vindypost

"He did seek help and continues to need further help. That's admittance. This is a long journey for him to fully recover. "

He did not seek help. He was more forced to go to rehab. The first thing he has to admit is that he is a Alcoholic and second is to accept it and third is to get help and recognize the fact he is only hurting himself. No one else. It takes a man to admit being a alcoholic and doing something about it, instead of saying <quote> "I can't tell you I'll never have another drink." <quote> So you see he knows he has a problem but can't stay away from it and until he does, he'll just keep getting in deeper and deeper trouble. A shame.

lauriljc

"I would love to see every person who has a negative comment here to give their first and last name and address. I would love to look at their family and post what I find here. Who is going to be first?"

Are you drinking to? I commented about Kelly and his drinking. Not about his family. He's a celebrity and with that comes everything else. It's the price you pay. Comprehend?

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24Laurieljc(63 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Life:

Stating that someone has a problem is VERY DIFFERENT from most of the comments posted here. Sure, I understand that people are pompous enough to believe that because someone has some semblence of celebredom, it is their inalienable right to say what they want about the person. But it is ludicrious and hypocritical. Instead of worrying about what is going on in the life of Kelly Pavlik, they should be worried about what is going on their own families . I am positive that there is drinking and family problems in their own families just as I am POSITIVE that they dont want their family business in the Vindicator and being commented on with the same measure of judgement that you see here. Would you not agree?

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25VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Lifes2Short says...

"The first thing he has to admit is that he is a Alcoholic and second is to accept it and third is to get help and recognize the fact he is only hurting himself."

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Myself, Yourself, and others have no idea what he did and did not admit, accept or recognize @ the Betty Ford Clinic for 2 months long. There are many stages in the healing process. The fee per day is astronomical there and specialized counsel are there for reform and rehab. He walked in with his own two feet, (not on a stretcher) that in itself is a right foot in direction consciously. And paid for this with his own money consciously. Even if one admits, accepts, and recognizes condition/illness....it's evident advanced therapy needs to take place in this instance.
Just because one admits, accepts, recognizes doesn't mean tomorrow is gloriful ....I believe he did admit, accept, recognize and Relapse occurred. This is very common...and...Re-admission is necessary to the clinic for further treatment as one battles this courageous fight.

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26DOLE2(594 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

''Mom,Mikey won't let me ride his bike!'' ''You kids stay away from my 40 year old screen door and wait till your father gets home!!''

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27Laurieljc(63 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Vindypost:

I appreciate where you are going with all of this, but it is none of our business! And, as you can see by most of the posts here, people just want to be critical and could care less about the “struggle” of the alcoholism that Kelly Pavlik may have. Look at the words that people are using. If people would focus on the issues that plague our area (teen pregnancy, education, drugs, the unemployment rate, and crime) and actually expend some effort in making a difference OR even focus on issues in their own families, there would be no time to worry about what is going on in the personal life of Kelly Pavlik. And I’m just shaking my head thinking about how much space the Vindicator used on THIS.

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28VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Laurieljc

Thank you. Exactly...It's humanity and dignity. That's why I focused predominantly on "reaching out" and "support" for the positive factors ...rather than to dwell a police report that's dirt and Vindicator headlines.

If anything, it may help others somewhere?

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29Not_Gilligans_Ginger(129 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Here's the rub, VindyPost and Laurieljc... "Celebrities" are held to a higher standard. Do you get that? What kind of example is Kelly Pavlik to young people aspiring to follow in his footsteps? Doesn't he make public appearances and sign autographs? Two words, HIGHER STANDARD, make all our sniping acceptable because he is letting people down.

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30VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Ginger,

What you fail to understand is alcohol is taking control of Mr. Pavlik. This is reality, celebrity or not. high or low standards. Frankly...an example that all people should take very seriously.

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31Lifes2Short(3877 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

vindypost

<<<<"Even if one admits, accepts, and recognizes condition/illness....it's evident advanced therapy needs to take place in this instance.">>>>

And he has to stop drinking, period. If he is serious about battling this then he needs to take that first step. And not no high price rehab place. Inside himself.

<<<<"Just because one admits, accepts, recognizes doesn't mean tomorrow is gloriful .." >>>>>

It never will be. Sobriety is a everyday battle for the rest of your life if your strong enough.

<<<<""He walked in with his own two feet, (not on a stretcher) that in itself is a right foot in direction consciously."">>>>

After an intense eight-hour conversation early this month with his parents and wife, Samantha, Kelly Pavlik opted to admit himself to the clinic and seek treatment to cure a problem that Mike Pavlik said began shortly after his son won the middleweight title by knocking out Jermain Taylor in Atlantic City, N.J., on Sept. 29, 2007.
Mike Pavlik said Kelly’s problem is with beer, not drugs.
It is the second time this year that Pavlik has entered rehab; he stayed only two weeks the first time. Dunkin said Pavlik defended the middleweight title against Sergio Martinez on April 17 in Atlantic City, about 10 days after being released from the world-renowned clinic the first time.

Now, some of those closest to Pavlik are hoping for the best while admitting some of the worst. The chairman of Top Rank Boxing said Pavlik is in the right place.

“It’s clear that alcoholism is a disease, and Kelly and his family were astute enough to pick up on that,” said Bob Arum, whose company promotes Pavlik’s fights.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/nov/27...

Bottom line, he's a alcoholic and needs to take care of himself before anyone else. I should know, I'm one. Been sober for 2 1/2 years after a prison stint, and yes, hit rock bottom, but once I admitted I was one, then things starting going uphill for me.

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32Lifes2Short(3877 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Ray “Boom Boom” Mancini“I love the kid, but he had demons before he became champion and that’s known on the street. He didn’t all of sudden become an alcoholic. When he became a champion, he exacerbated it,” Mancini said.

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33VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Lifes2Short

Congratulations and trust'worthy' statements are appreciated.

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34Lifes2Short(3877 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Vindypost

Thank you.

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35Not_Gilligans_Ginger(129 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

VindyPost... Oh, I understand that he has a drinking problem, an addiction. Personally, I can't refer to it as a disease because I am a cancer survivor and THAT is a disease. He needs to remove himself from "celebrity" status and get help. Young people don't need to look up to people like him when he's in this sort of state. Do you think an alcoholic teacher who is in and out of trouble would keep a position very long? Noooo... And why? Because teachers are held to a higher standard, just like celebrities are. Again, he needs to remove himself from the limelight, get honest w/ himself, and seek intensive rehab. That's my opinion.

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36VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

Ginger

So wonderful to hear of cancer survival.
Yes, absolutely yes I agree with you....Mr.Pavlik cannot have another sip of alochol. Ever. Ever.
But does he need to remove himself from Boxing Profession Limelight? Well...
First of all...Standards? It's pretty grey nowadays.

When you point a finger at another person ...there are three of your own pointing back at yourself. Who are we to judge? We don't live in a perfect world and should't expect perfection in this world. Celebrities have made it famous by fans and admirers...the media in itself will build celebrities up but as soon as the human being falters boy, oh boy knock them down...and no good. Perhaps give credit to the celebrity for what you know them for...not an issue in spare time and private life. Interesting how people just love dirt and gossip and could tear someone down on mistakes and such. Just because someone plays football, baseball, basketball, boxes, golfs, sings, acts, Doesn't mean they can be role model, give direction or guidance. "They don't just Title High Standard automatically and we Shall teach our kids That. I believe as society in general, it's okay to fall short and get back on the bike and ride. High expectations can disappoint all of us as human beings one time or other.

Let's realize how many athletes, musicians, actors, actresses, have screwd up...did they all get thrown under the bus and have to leave the profession or limelight...No perhaps treatment and life goes on! Magic Johnson played ball while getting his treatments. Tiger Woods is still getting treatments. Lindsey, Nichole, and Paris are being treated. Many musicians are out-patients getting treated. Heaven knows the many illnesses celebrities get treated for ---just like any other human being. Illness or abuse of alcohol and many other medical treatments outside their line of work but still work. In Pavlik's case, his will be in-house treatment...maybe writing a book or responding to his fans on behalf of support while intensive treatments take place. We are all human. Kelly may go 3 years sober, when will you permit him to get back into the limelight? Alcoholic is an Alcoholic.

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37VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 2 months ago

I know this has gotten wordy...love the debate, though

Here's another example...shall we throw out high standards on our parents, grandparents, ancestry because of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, stroke, alcoholism...they are illnesses that run in families. We've looked up to them in many ways, right?

Just good debate....

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