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Many are violating Warren’s pool laws



Published: Tue, July 12, 2011 @ 12:06 a.m.

Staff report

WARREN

The newly hired Warren planning coordinator says there are so many people violating the city’s ordinances regarding use of swimming pools that he can’t keep up with them all.

Dan Sferra Jr. says he wants Warren residents to understand that any pool in the city that is more than 24 inches deep or contains 180 square feet or more of surface area requires a zoning/building permit.

The permit, which costs $40, also must include a plot plan, which describes the location of the pool to ensure that it isn’t within 10 feet of the property line, Sferra said.

Such pools also must be enclosed in a fence 5 feet high for the safety of anyone who might get into the pool without permission, he added.

Further, an extension cord running to the pool to power the filtration system doesn’t satisfy the regulations either, Sferra said. No pool of that size can be located in a front yard, he added.

The problem has been inflatable pools, Sferra said. Many people get upset when Sferra informs them that their inflatable pool requires a permit.

“Nobody thinks they need a permit,” Sferra said, adding, “What I try to tell people is that the rules are in place for safety.” The rules also protect the homeowner from the liability of someone getting hurt or drowning in their pool.

“There are so many of them,” Sferra said of inflatable pools in the city, that it’s going to be difficult to locate them all.

Sferra has been planning and building department planning coordinator since early June.


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1USNBOY(76 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

Really? Are you kidding me? You need a $40 building permit for a blow up swimming pool? So you're telling me that if I go to K-Mart and buy a $20 blow up pool for my kids, I have to go buy a $40 building permit? YOURE NUTS! I understand that the cities in this area are hurting for money but THIS IS FLIPPIN REDICULOUS! Why don't you guys go bust the crack houses and gang bangers if you need money? I guess you're too much of a candy a-- to do that so you have to make up a BS law and bother decent law abiding citizens cause they will comply easily. What if the pool is already "blown up" LOL do you still have to buy a building permit? I know some places require you to get a building permit to install a directv or dish network satalite dish. How rediculous is that? GET A REAL JOB AND LEAVE NORMAL PEOPLE ALONE! WE PAY TAXES! I'm pretty sure we MORE than pay for a stupid permit for a kiddie pool.

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2steelwagon(284 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

REDICULOUS! Why don't you guys go bust the crack houses and gang bangers if you need money?

Because it's a hell of a lot easier and safer to extort honest working folks just trying to get by.
God forbid Seferra actually did something constructive for the city.

I mean why go after the dope dealers and std spreading hookers when you can harass and get the easy money from working families who pose no threat to anyone ?

Just can't imagine why anyone who can is getting out of the city.
What with the beautiful roads,boarded up vacant houses being used to sell dope from,scumbags taking a leak in the neighbors flower bed,getting the tar beaten out of you for just walking along minding your own business,skanky hookers flagging traffic and hanging out prowling the neighborhoods,home invasions,a city full of welfare rats who actually call a welfare check a pay check while complaining .......
"Welfare don't pay me enough"

Yes friends I actually heard that come out of the loud mouth of a huge welfare queen while being stranded behing her huge foul smelling carcass in the grocery store checkout line.

Buggy piled up with expensive cuts of meat most working folks can't afford,tons of soda pop and junk food they feed their poor little rail thin kids with rotted teeth.
Tell you what I didn't see........

No sign of soap,cleaning products,toothpaste ect.....
Maybe because "welfare don't pay her enough" ??
Poor little kids just filthy and snot nosed,wearing dirty clothes.
You can't help but feel terible for the children of these rats and yes they are welfare rats.......anyone who refuses to bathe and see to it their kids come first especially when I'm paying the tab is a rat......but hey let's go harass the guy who put up that little blow up pool for his kids !!!!

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3steelwagon(284 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

“There are so many of them,” Sferra said of inflatable pools in the city, that it’s going to be difficult to locate them all

Well you can bet Old Danny Boy will sniff everyone of them out.
Being the guardian of public safety that he is.

"Squeeze that working poor family a little tighter"
"I think the guy has 2 bucks left for lunch"!!!!!

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4UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

So many serious issues in Warren, and this uneducated unqualified planning coordinator who got his job through family connections is pushing the $40 fee for pools? Pooh on you Dan Sferra Jr!

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5lee(544 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

I guess now that fireworks season is over the a--- hole bureaucrats found some thing else to do. Remember this at election time and don't vote for any taxes.
We have the power to fire these leaches

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6Stan(9923 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

The rub parlors of Warren have rubbed Dan Sferra Jr. the right way and he isn't pursuing them . . ..

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7dd933(216 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

The law requiring a fence around a pool is to protect small children from drowning in somebody's pool. A few years ago a five year old drowned in Howland and the property owner (not the tenant who had the pool) was sued for $1 million. It's a pretty universal law in urbanized jurisdictions but the folks who sell the 4 foot high blue pools with the white pvc frame for $199. at walmart and $159. at sam's club don't know about it or at least aren't telling their customers.
I realize that it's open season on public employees but it's Mr. Sferra's job to enforce that law, it's not his job to bust drug dealers - unless they are breaking the zoning regulations. I'm sure the City of Warren is not concerned about the $40.00 fee, the law was passed to ensure the safety of the public. If you disagree with the law the American way would be to elect legislators who will change it.

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8DwightK(1179 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

This isn't about money, it's about safety. You need a fence to protect small kids from getting in pools and drowning. I've seen statitistics that say one child drowns in one of these pools every week. People think that because they spent 100 hundred bucks at Wal-Mart they don't have something dangerous in their backyard. They're wrong.

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9AtownParent(558 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

How about teaching your children not to trespass on your neighbors property instead?

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10lilgandee(103 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

WOW! Getting something that children can stay out of trouble and cool off from the heat and the "system" has to find a way to screw the public. It's ridiculous how so many of our rights are being stripped. The newest one your going to not be allowed to jog with Ipods (or any music device, too distracting for some so take away from all). People came to America because of our rights, slowly though they are taken away as the criminals keep every bit of there civil liberties regardless of what crime they inflict. In this economy $40.00 and a 5' tall fence will ultimately have parents taking the pools down, since I KNOW if you don't comply then you'll get a fine; their way to make more money from the public . Great government we got. I salute you but it's not the hand I would stick out. We need to stop their control and these simpletons that vote our rights away. One chicks opinion agree or disagree is fine but I am allowed that, or am I?

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11LargeCar(6 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

How much would be the fines associated with adding a pool without permission? More than a permit? That's what I thought.

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12USNBOY(76 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

I'm with AtownParent. Teach your hump trophies how to stay in their own yard! I had the absolute pleasure of growing up with a pool. My parents had it installed in 1984. It is still in use today. There has only been one accident in its history when the neighbor girl dove too deep and smacked her nose on the bottom. (Personal stupidity). Dozens of kids have swam in that pool without any serious injury or death. Of course, that was back when parents taught their kids and kids listened. You don't find that too much anymore. Then the kids parents will sue the pool owner because they didn't teach their kids how to swim and they drowned. I blame parents not pool owners!

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13whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

charge the city 40 bucks for not fencing in the pot holes and not getting the permit to do so..... unreal

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14YtownParent(250 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

The permit and zoning laws for pools have been on the books in practically every community for decades, for safety. No matter how much a parent teaches a child, littler children (especially six and under) don't always follow directions. Any child with a developmental disability isn't going to understand property boundaries at the same time that they will be attracted to pools. Pools are no different than any other consumer product. You are responsible for what you bought and how it is used. The tone and tune will change when a child drowns in Warren.

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15CrestwoodRocks(107 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

I know why Warren has these laws. Warren honestly has alot of crime. Warren hasn't been a safe city. Warren laws are trying to make the city safer. If these laws works, Warren can become a safe city

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16candystriper(571 comments)posted 2 years, 9 months ago

small children can get ecoli from any size pool that is contaminated...

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17nativio289(3 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Go get 'em, Danny Jr!

I guess this is what soon-to-be Mayor Franklin meant when he said that filling the Planning Zoning position would help the neighborhoods!

So...how much is the permit if one wants to drive their car through someone's yard?

Zing!

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