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City cops want residents to arm themselves with radar guns



Published: Sun, July 10, 2011 @ 11:54 a.m.

By JOHN W. GOODWIN JR.

jgoodwin@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

The Youngstown Police Department is looking for a few good men and women willing to take up arms and curb minor criminal activity throughout the city.

The minor crime in question is speeding, and the arms — camera-equipped radar guns.

The department needs at least 12 residents willing to undergo training and take to the streets to catch speeders.

Detective Sgt. Anita Davis said the department is ready to kick off its neighborhood speed-watch program. The department will train members of block watches and neighborhood associations to use the radar guns in various areas where speeding has been an issue.

Davis said often drivers are unaware of their speed or the impact it has on the neighborhoods through which they are traveling.

The radar campaign, she said, will encourage motorists to slow down and send a message that residents will no longer tolerate excessive speed in their neighborhoods.

“This is a safety factor in getting people to reduce speed. People should be able to back out of their driveways, and kids should be able to play in the street without getting mowed down by speeding cars,” Davis said.

Read the full story Monday in The Vindicator and on Vindy.com.


Comments

1USNBOY(76 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Why don't they tell them to arm themselves with REAL guns and take back the streets and neighborhoods? That is the only way you're going to clean up Youngstown without the rats running from the dump and infiltrating surrounding areas that are still for the most part decent places to live. Radar guns aren't going to do anything but get laughed at. Do you really think drug dealers, gang bangers, and drug addicts care how fast they're going? If you think they do, you are dead wrong! Even if you catch them speeding, write down the plate number, call YPD, they send them a ticket, do you think they are going to pay it? They run around in Caddy's and Chrysler 500's and other "luxury cars" and make $10k a day selling dope but they're on welfare. They go to court and tell the judge "I can't afford to pay this ticket" and the judge drops the ticket. There is a lot more effective things YPD and the residents could be doing other than sitting on their front porch with a radar gun and a notebook. They should build a giant wall around Youngstown, put a giant pile of street drugs in the center next to a pile of weapons and let them all kill each other over it. Then go in tear down every house and abandoned building and THEN and ONLY THEN rebuild.

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2Boomer(17 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I have no words for how idiotic this idea is. I agree that too many people speed in residential neighborhoods, but arming a civilian with a radar device is sparking the fuse on a powder keg. Let's hope the new Mayor pulls the reins on incompetent officeholders.

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3andrew1967(36 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

This is the stupidest idea Youngstown
PD could ever do arming people with
radar guns a driver going down the streets will mistake this as a real threat
and some poor Youngstown person will
end up dead because the police there
can't do there job Youngstown really has
gone to the dogs

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4Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

The boys in tha hood already target snitches . One can only imagine what retaliation will occur here .

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5Ytownnative(1062 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Don't I pay taxes to have a police force to do things like this?

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6Conservatism_Will_Prospers(91 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Wow I am amazed at how confused of a society we are! There was a case in Washington DC where the police were called by residents who were in danger of being raped. The law enforcement ignored the call and the women were brutally raped. Supreme court found that it is not LEO's responsibility to respond to every single call... Bottom line according to a supreme court ruling LEO's do not have to respond to a single call. The idiotic part of this article in on behalf of the citizens of Youngstown. Here LEO is willing to work with the citizens of Youngstown you all can do nothing but bitch about it.... Good one Youngstown!!

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7Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Conservatism_Will_Prospers :

"Wow I am amazed at how confused of a society we are!"

You say that you are amazed but you seem confused . Civillians have no arrest powers to do any enforcing . The subculture does have their powers which in Youngstown are unlimited and they are not intimidated unless jailed . How do you propose to protect those wielding the radar guns ? I propose that we issue them a GLOCK to go with the radar gun .

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8VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Volunteerism vs. job offer w/pay in this kind of circumstance.

I don't think Sgt. Anita Davis will find anyone to assist to patrol the streets unless there will be a paycheck involved. I also believe it takes more than 12 "good men and women" and those interested should get paid for their training / work in unstable Y-town environment. Risky business! Retalitaion in the works! Anita better supply bullet-proof vests!
When one points a radar gun, the speeding criminal will point a bullet-filled hand gun.
But, on the otherhand, I do agree if one lives, resides in specific locality, shares government, shares common culture defines their COMMUNITY--perhaps they are responsible for upholding justice and social organizations...if terrorist-like...than somehow our gov. of the state should step in just like our pres. did with bin laden on a higher level. Corrupt their networks, gang leaders, and disinfect the poison/cancer from our own so-called al-quada here. Monitoring activity on the streets in Y-town will take alot more than 12 good men and women and speeding issues.
If FBI, secret service, and our military prove combat in Middle East certainly,....We can ACT upon little Y-town. I say our Gov. Kasick and local autorities should step in w good "set-ups" and effort to focus and eliminate or prevent violent activity. I understand vigilance is a must...but it's beyond radar guns and speeding. Oh, so much more to this.....

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9Charles42705(15 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Are you kidding me? I just left Youngstown last month during a 10 day visit and thought I was visiting a war zone. You place a non peace officer out there with a radar gun and you are going to get someone hurt. One of the major problems I notice was all the abandon homes. Where are the property owners? and if they are abandon why don't the city have them tore down. They are nothing but zones for criminal activities. Second the police force is to small to do a effective job. I suggest they activate a gang suppression task force and start identifying and dealing with these clowns. Youngstown is in a war and you have to start dealing with it as such and stop sugar coating it.

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10Ytownnative(1062 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

is the next step 20 people with dont shoot signs patrolling the south side?

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11Silence_Dogood(1384 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Jimmy Hughes is a RETARDED IDIOT.

John Goodwin and the Vindy staff you can delete these harsh words but they are the best descriptor for the actions of this FOOL of a Police Chief that we have in the City of Youngstown. If this is followed thru with and we end up having people using camera's to photograph people, it won't be long before one of these people gets hurt or worse yet, killed. Seeing as it would be the City that is encouraging this activity and providing the training and direction, it will be the City that will be 100% LIABLE .I would ask you to direct questioning an this matter to the City Law Director, but then I realized that She can't even do a simple contract negotiation let alone a simple liability issue.

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12VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

What? And this is coming from Sgt. Davis YPD....

kids should be able to play in the street without getting mowed down by speeding cars,” Davis said.

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That's what pedestrian sideWALKS are for to get by on foot ----Get Off The Street. Streets are for automobiles' travel, NOT for the kids to play! Furthermore a home, front and back yard, driveway is where the kids play...perhaps a park...No, No, No, not a street.....C'mon Ms. Davis wake up ...Good grief what are you thinking? What are you allowing the kids to do---permission to play in the streets? ( Let's play hopscotch and shoot hoops, play football in the middle of a road) Trust me, not very good guidance on Y-town streets. I wouldn't let my dog play in the street.

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13VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Oh, may i revise... driveways are risky too...I probably shouldn't include a driveway for play---too many accidents occur on personal property driveways.

Anyway this article is just non-sense.

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14Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Silence_Dogood :

"Jimmy Hughes is a RETARDED IDIOT. "

NOT SO ! He has $500,000. that he got when he retired from YPD . ( He also got rehired and his old salary back . ) He will also be getting an excellent pension . Far more that what many in the city mare working . He has stayed cool with the criminal element with Jays's philosophy of coexistence .

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15UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

The radar gun people would become drive by shooties if this ever comes to Youngstown.

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16Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

""kids should be able to play in the street without getting mowed down by speeding cars,”"

Boy, how I would love to mow down those young wanna b gangstas that mingle on the streets and don't even have the common sense to move, and especially when the animals mock you into starting something. Are we allowed to mow them down?

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