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At GM Lordstown, Kasich pledges to drive jobs into state

Published: Wed, January 26, 2011 @ 12:01 a.m.
  Gov. John Kasich at GM Lordstown

Ohio Gov. John Kasich speaks at GM's Lordstown plant on Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich speaks at GM's Lordstown plant on Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011.




During his first visit to the Mahoning Valley as governor, John Kasich said he would work to erase the state’s “image problem” with business officials.

The governor also took shots at his predecessor, said General Motors “expressed concerns” about doing business in Ohio, and attempted an Arnold Schwarzenegger “Terminator” impersonation.

“We’ve got like a million things going on,” Kasich said Tuesday at the Lordstown GM complex. “You know what is amazing? I’ve been in for a total of two weeks. Seems like it’s been [a lot longer]. I’ve got everybody, everybody’s wondering what’s he going to do next, so that’s not all bad.”

Despite the success of the Chevrolet Cruze built in Lordstown,

Kasich said GM executives “expressed concern” to him about doing business in Ohio during a meeting in Detroit earlier this month.

GM spent about $350 million at the Lordstown plant to produce the Cruze. GM officials say they are depending on the fuel-efficient vehicle to rebuild the company’s standing in the compact-car market.

“I’m thrilled they made an investment here,” Kasich said.

But Kasich pointed to GM plant closings in recent years in the Cleveland, Dayton and Mansfield areas as evidence that the company has issues with doing business in Ohio.

“When one part of Ohio bleeds, we all bleed,” Kasich said.

GM has also closed plants in Michigan, Tennessee, Delaware, Virginia and New York.

He added that auto executives said the state isn’t competitive and under ex-Gov. Ted Strickland, a Democrat who lost a re-election bid to Kasich, Ohio wasn’t “responsive” to their needs.

They complained the previous administration was “difficult to work with,” Kasich said.

Senate Minority Leader Capri Cafaro of Liberty, D-32nd, who joined Kasich at the GM facility, said it was a joint effort among the company, its United Auto Workers union as well as federal, state and local officials who helped get the Cruze built here.

“GM in Lordstown is working, and that’s directly related to the previous administration,” Cafaro said.

The brief tour of the Lordstown plant was Kasich’s first to Northeast Ohio since his Jan. 10 inauguration.

Attempting a Schwarzenegger “Terminator” impersonation, Kasich said, “I’ll be back.”

“I’m not going to be absent” in the Mahoning Valley, he said.

Kasich said he’s “not a foreigner here in the Valley. You could almost throw a rock and hit my house from here where I grew up over in McKees Rocks,” Pa., about 75 miles from Lordstown.

Kasich also complimented V&M Star in Youngstown for its $650 million expansion project.

State Sen. Joe Schiavoni of Canfield, D-33rd, who was with Kasich on the GM tour, said he urged the governor to come to the Valley.

“I told him people in the Mahoning Valley are afraid of him” because they were comfortable with Strickland, a frequent visitor to this area, Schiavoni said. “They’re concerned about what [Kasich is] going to do.”

As governor, Kasich said he is focusing on making Ohio more business-friendly. He said he not only wants to keep companies that are here but is looking to attract businesses.

Kasich mentioned the Utica Shale as “potentially good news” for business in Ohio, but warned that discussion on its use is very early.

The Utica Shale, a rock layer below the Marcellus Shale, could be a major source of natural gas.

V&M officials have said Youngstown’s proximity to the Marcellus Shale was a main reason the company is expanding here.

David Betras, the Mahoning County Democratic Party chairman, wrote in a statement that Kasich’s visit “amounts to nothing more than a slap in the face” to every union worker at the GM plant.

“While he was running for governor, John Kasich couldn’t go two sentences without blaming all the troubles in Ohio on organized labor,” Betras said.


11970mach1(1005 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Betras is a MORON.

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2timOthy(802 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Looking at the the Picture in today's Vindy of Kasich and Graham ! I have one question from a Tradesman . Have either one one of these guys done any Physical work in there LIFE ? Both look like there out of the same box of LAZINEST !!

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3UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

The Valley will get none of the new good paying jobs Kasich creates because the union Democratic socialist mentality can not be overcome. Betras & Union leaders - are you listening and willing to change?

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4JME(802 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

What in the world is Betras talking about, what a loon.

I started to think last night it sure has been nice not hearing Betras running his mouth since the November elections. I guess he missed making himself look like an idiot.

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5republicanRick(1716 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Betras solidifies his reputation as, well, a nut. His rantings don't even make sense anymore. Maybe he's auditioning to take Keith Olberman's talk show gig.

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6republicanRick(1716 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Union leader Jim Graham is right there talking with Kasich even though, I'm sure, they disagree on things. But Betras, I'm just at a loss of words at how idiotic and juvenile he sounds.

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7mrblue(1175 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Our Gov. has been in office less than a month. Give him a chance to see if he can handle the job and help our area. As far as Betras goes, his mouth will hurt this area,----- guaranteed!

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8Vote_Them_All_Out(13 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Betras is a Moron, if the Governor didn't make a trip to the area Betras would bash him for not coming. Then when he does come here this horse's A$$ says it is a slap in the face.

Please leave this area so that we can get some people with an ounce of common sense who will promote economic development.

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9Thunderchicken(15 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

The look on Graham face in the picture in priceless.

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10walter_sobchak(2672 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

The democraic party chairman and ambulance-chaser obviously suffers from "little-man" syndrome. So, he thinks he needs to talk big. But, he is just a hack. He should listen to what Kasich is telling Ohio. Look at Dayton and Mansfield and deny that he is not telling us the truth. Truly, GM "management" and the UAW worked together to bring a new product to Lordstown and it will hopefully work. But, the work is being done to make more cars with less workers including a large quantity of outsourcing.

Hey, Betras can keep his head in the sand and get left behind. Sheet and Tube will not be opening back up and steelworkers will not get their 13 weeks vacation. Ohio is not a great state for companies to do business and Kasich will hopefully change that.

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11ValleyNative(174 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Hopefully, getting some Republicans in office could lead to some of Ohio's woes being lessened. But I am skeptical. Time will tell.

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12Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

As I read the hate and misunderstanding in the above comments I can see why companies would not want to come to the Valley . YOU HATE YOUR NEIGHBORS. Is it because they have a job ???? If my employees sounded like you guys I would fire them FAST You should be glad they they good jobs and help out the all business in the valley and stop pushing you hate and jealousy .

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13borylie(946 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Free,Take a deep breath,calm down, You couldn't fire anybody,fast or slow,if they were unionized. Are your employees unionized? Have a nice day.

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14JME(802 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Free, the reason why companies don't want to locate in the Valley are because of the unions, not the people posting.

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15Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

borylie Yes some of them are . And you can fire them if you have a legitimate reason . How many employees do you have and how man unions have you worked with ??? I have found out that Most union workers are more reliable then non union ones . most know the rules and follow them and put in the good and fair days work .I have been in buness for more then 45 years . So I may know a little about it . And I will try to have a good day and I HOPE and PRAY you do too

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16Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

borylie Yes some of them are . And you can fire them if you have a legitimate reason . How many employees do you have and how many unions have you worked with ??? I have found out that most union workers are more reliable then non union ones . Most know the rules and follow them and put in the good and fair days work .I have been in business for more then 45 years . So I may know a little about it . And I will try to have a good day and I HOPE and PRAY you do too

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17rocky14(830 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

hey_hole---you are nothing but an A hole
You have never stepped inside an auto plant,so how would you know what goes on inside?
You are nothing but a TEA BAGGER

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18Vote_Them_All_Out(13 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

$50.00 lesson

I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President of the United States . Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there. So I asked her, "If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?" She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people!"

Her parents beamed.

"Wow...what a worthy goal," I told her. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my driveway, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll t ake you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

Her parents still aren't speaking to me.

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19JME(802 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago


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20borylie(946 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Free,So if I understand you correctly if your employees sounded like us,you'd fire them? That's a legitimate reason? That's what you said. You want to spin that baby a little? What does it matter what I've done? I'm just reading your post and and finding obvious flaws in your thinking.

Rocky,where's the civility? The liberals demanded civility and so did our President. Are you trying to incite? What is it about Tea Baggers you don't like? Smaller government? Less taxes? Smaller deficits? What is the eqivalent to the Tea Party in the democrat party that wants our elected leaders to be held responsible for what they do in Washington? Both of you have a nice day.

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21TonyL(44 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

The Unions didn't do their job to protect their existing members.

Reason: The union’s main focus is to increase membership outside of manufacturing and this is done in backroom deals with politicians.

When did Youngstown's problems start?

The unions knew that Jimmy Carter’s Clean Air Act of 1977 would destroy the Steel Industry in the years to come but, they did nothing to help steel companies to fight for Government Subsidies to install pollution equipment but, the unions did have money to donate to elective officials who help them to increase union membership.

Ask Mr. Betras, why today, the U.S. annual steel production will barely reach 90.0 million when the U.S. was the No. 1 steel producer in 1977 with 200.0 million tons and China was on the bottom of the production scale with 9.0 million tons of steel.

The big question is, why is China predicting for 2011, an annual steel production record of over 650.0 million tons.

I think we heard from Obama in last night’s address to the Nation, Manufacturing jobs are gone, and we will not see fathers and sons working for the same companies like they did 50 years ago. Ask Mr. Betras why?

Why is General Motors is planning to build cars in China and import them into the United States, a strategy that could trigger further job losses and union anger in the US. I believe it is time we stop bumping heads and start working together and bring jobs back to the USA.

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22rocky14(830 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Here's what i have against the Tea Party--where were they when Bush took this country from a hugh surplus to The Great Recession?
Maybe he was a Republican? Phonies

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23borylie(946 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Rocky,this will be my last discussion with you as you're incoherent. The Tea Party wasn't a movement then,it wasn't formed. Where was the democrat Tea Party during these years when Bush spent the surplus? Obviously the democrats did't see a need or didn't know how to organize a grass roots movement with a message that most clear thinking Americans want to see implemeted. You're obviously angered and upset that President Obama's policies and promises have failed and has indeed kept most of President Bush's policies intact. Bush tax cuts,Iraq,Patriot Act,Guantanamo,etc, The Tea Party is looking out for all Americans who want accountability in politics. Too bad you can't realize all of this. For the most part the Tea Party is keeping republicans in line,letting the democrats do what democrats do. A few democrats are also starting to see value in the Tea Party movement. Take care and stay civil.

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24TonyL(44 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Rocky get your facts right!!

The Great Recession was the result of "The Community Reinvestment Act", passed by the Carter Administration, then strengthened by future administrations, especially the Clinton Administration, was the genesis of the current economic bloodbath.

In 1994, 4.5% of the mortgage market was "subprime" and 31% of those subprime loans were securitized. By 2006, 20.1% of the entire mortgage market was subprime and the loans that were securitized had ballooned to 81%. The Congressional Budget Office had estimates that GSE (Government Sponsored Enterprises) losses will cost at least $240 billion in fiscal year 2009. I think that number may need to be increased as things have gotten even worse since those numbers were crunched.

The only thing Bush did was to keep the Clinton ball rolling with the force of Barney Franks and the Democratic Congress of 2006.

I contribute the birth of the Tea Party to Barrack Obama. He was the one who woke the sleeping giant with his "Spend, Spend" rhetoric,

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25rocky14(830 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Spend,Spend,Spend? The Republicans started 2 wars and never payed for any of them.Who do you thing will pay these TRILLIONS of dollars? Your kids and grand kids.
One of your favorite presidents i'm sure--Ronnie Reagan --ran on smaller government.When he left after 8 years,he had the biggest government in history.
With Sara Palin and Michele Bachmann leading your Party--i'm sure it will go far.
Oh,by the way--Michele Bachmann said yesterday that the Founding Fathers of our country tried to stop slavery.She sure knows history.This is one of the leaders of the Tea Party?

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26YSUGRAD(134 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Great photo of two story tellers!!!

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27borylie(946 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

dubfun,He didn't get your vote or very many others from the Mahoning Valley and he won't need it again in 4 years.He's here now and later to improve Ohio. Can't you get over the bitterness? Jeeezzz!

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28TonyL(44 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Do some research, Rocky. Under Reagan, the US economy experienced the largest expansion in history. Tax rates were cut by 2/3rds to 28% (Clinton increased them), inflation went from 13.5% to 4.8%, interest rates dropped from 22% to 11% and continued to drop after he left office. Unemployment went form 7.5% to 5.4%. The Dow jumped from 860 to 2,753. THE most impressive stat: the GDP doubled from 2.7 to 5.4 Trillion. Many economists (even liberal ones) agree that his policies, which were continued by George, Sr. continued our expansion through the 90's. He was not perfect. Who is. He made mistakes, and not everything was a homerun, and of course Liberals only see the negative.

As of the present, Reagan's dramatic economic policies are influencing U.S. and world growth — and government action — more than 20 years after he pushed his radical plan to slash taxes, increase defense spending and cut social programs through a divided Democratic Congress. As much as you hate it, Reaganomics lives on.

Oh,by the way--Michele Bachmann was referring the the war of independents and how we were saved from slavery of taxation which was imposed on the colonies by the British.

As I see it, you are a person of very little knowledge of history but take everything the Democrat Party tells you as truth....and like people say, the "devil" preys on people who are weak-minded and shallow of spirit. The weak have no recourse but to follow negative influences.

Show Liberals the facts, and they just don't believe them.

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29cambridge(4057 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Tony....Another way to say it is that interest rates peaked at 22% and inflation peaked at 13.5% under reagan.

reagan tripled the national debt.

More jobs were created during the Clinton administration than both bush's and reagan combined.


I'm a liberal and I like facts.

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30JME(802 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

You can thank the Carter administration for the high interest rates.

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31JME(802 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Cambridge, That's like saying the highest unemployment rate is under the Obama administration. It is, but it's not necessarily his policies that caused it.
Try not to manipulate the numbers or information like you usually do.

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32TonyL(44 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Cambridge, Your article is based on Wall Street Journal examined net job growth for more than half a century and declared that Bush had the "worst track record on record."
The jobs numbers are based on a monthly survey of employers for the 12th of each month, but the initial reports are revised as more employers complete their survey over the following couple of months. A fuller census of employment is conducted quarterly and is considered more accurate, so since the Wall Street Journal article, the Bureau of Labor Statistics eventually made adjusts the monthly numbers to reflect that accuracy. Here are the latest numbers:
• Number of jobs as of January, 1993, a week before Clinton took office: 109.725 million.
• Number of jobs as of Jan. 2001, a week before Clinton left office: 132.469 million
• Net Gain under Clinton: 22.7 million jobs.
Now for Bush, who succeeded Clinton in the White House. As already noted, the nation had 132.469 million jobs as he was taking office.
• Number of jobs on Jan. 12, 2009, a week before Bush left office: 133.549 million.
• Net gain under Bush: 1.08 million jobs.
Bush, too, has had his economic challenges. He had the 2001 recession and that year's terror attack. Also, Bush faced lingering fallout from the bursting of the stock market bubble in 2000. He also was confronted with a wave of corporate accounting scandals that rocked Wall Street — and with Iraq war beginning in 2003. On top of it all, the economy lost jobs in 2001 and 2002. Since then, jobs have grown each year — including 2006, when the economy was hit by the real-estate bust.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average seasonally adjusted unemployment rate since 2001 is 5.2 percent, which is lower than the average rate for the 1990s, but higher than in 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2000 -- the last four years before Bush took office. Again, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate was 6.7 percent in November, 2008 and the lowest annual unemployment rate under Bush was 4.6 percent in 2006 and 2007, all of which are higher than the unemployment rates in 1998, 1999, and 2000 (4.5 percent, 4.2 percent, and 4.0 percent, respectively). What should be noted, the Bush Administration during the 8 years had a job lost on the average of 533,000 per year or 4.3 million jobs. Actually, including this number and the jobs gain, the Bush Administration should be credited with 5.38 million jobs created.

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33cambridge(4057 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Tony....The numbers speak for themselves. More jobs were created during the Clinton administration than the reagan and both bush's administrations combined. There is no denying that. There is no spin that can dispute that fact.

reagan tripled the national debt. No spin can dispute that.

Clinton turned over a budget for the bush administration that had a budget surplus as did the last years of the Clinton administration. A budget surplus is the formula for paying off the national debt. If bush would have just followed the same formula and path that Clinton handed over we might not even have a debt now. No spin can dispute that.

The richest 1% of this country holds a disproportionate amount of the the nations financial wealth compared to the bottom 95%. But the republicans insisted on giving these people a 900 billion dollar tax break that goes directly to the national debt. You can read about it in the link below.


Answer honestly. Would you rather have the economy, job creation and budget surpluses of the Clinton administration or the S&L and bank collapses and bailouts and corporate welfare the republicans reap on richest 3% at the expense of the rest of us?

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34TonyL(44 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Honestly Cambridge, If the Clinton administration was aggressively tracking al-Qaida a year before 9/11. We would never have been in this mess and we would be complaining about something else. I don't believe in war with todays civilization because there steps that can be taken to prevent them and Clinton had the opportunity to do so. Only if Clinton didn't defund our military or refrain from blow jobs and making the decision to kill Ben Laden, he could have gone down in history as the greatest president ever. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/

Not like you, I don't believe in redistribution of wealth. If our constitution states, all people are created equal, people have the same opportunity to be rich and pay their share.

Now, if you are willing, I would be happy to pay you $50 to mow my lawn, do the trimming and haul away the debris. Then you can give it to a person who has taken advantage of system by living on welfare all his life and not lifting one finger to get a job. Then, I won't have to pay a Mexican to do it.

For your information, I believe that the rich are doing their share. The top 1 % pay approx 1/3 the top 50 percent pay 96.7%. These facts are available from the IRS. The top 25 % pay approx 85%.

The 400 highest-earning taxpayers in the U.S. reported a record $105 billion in total adjusted gross income in 2006, but they paid just $18 billion in tax, new Internal Revenue Service figures show. That works out to an average federal income tax bite of 17%--the lowest rate paid by the richest 400 during the 15-year period covered by the IRS statistics. The average federal tax bite on the top 400 was 30% in 1995 and 23% in 2002. Now, if Obama gets his way to bring taxation back to the 30% level, it will only net an extra $12 Billion in new tax revenues, a mere drop in the bucket. But, if taxation was reformed to the Clinton era, the real money will be made from people who earn $50,000 to $100,000 in the tune of $4,000 to $8,000 in new tax money. Believe me, I know because, I paid it. With today's inflated prices, this wage group will never be able to afford it. I think it is our Government’s duty to protect all it’s citizens.

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35cambridge(4057 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Tony...We were discussing jobs and the economy and somehow you connect that to 9/11. I don't see the connection but you should at least get the facts straight.

Clinton did in fact try to kill bin Laden twice but failed. That's more than bush did. bush ignored the intelligence that said bin Laden wanted to attack America and when our troops had him trapped in Tora Bora bush let him escape so he could invade Iraq.


As far as the financial wealth of the top 1% being on par with financial wealth of the bottom 95% and you not thinking that's out of whack.....I really don't know what to say about that. We live in different worlds and have different values.

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36TonyL(44 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Cambridge, this should piss you off,....and this comes from the most Liberal Paper in N.Y. http://clintoncrimes.tripod.com/Clint...

If Clinton lied on Fox, who would know? Politicians are all liars. Personally, I give Cris Wallace credit for holding back from kicking him off the show.

When Bin Laden bombed The Trade Towers, it was his intentions to wreck our economy because he knew we were not prepared military wise to go after him. And on top of it all, as an investor, he saw the recession was on the horizon because of the lack of Government spending. Sure enough, the Dow dropped below 10,000 points on Sept. 6th and Sept. 11th became the icing on the cake. Yes, like you said, we are of different worlds, yours was Youngstown and mine was New York City. Fortunately, I was in Weirton, WV heading back home on RT22 when I saw the last plane which later crashed in PA. My company's stock was one of N.Y. City based companies that tanked from $50 to $18 per share. When you look at the following charts, you will see that Clinton wasn't that great after all.

The way it looks, Obama's problems didn't come from Bush but from Clinton.

God Bless and have a good night.

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37southsidedave(5189 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Pledge all you want Kasich; the proof is in the pudding!!!

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38TonyL(44 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hi Southsidedave,
You should remember Michael J Kirwin, he represented the 19th Congressional District in Ohio for a long time in the mid twentieth century in the U.S. House of Representatives. He became a very powerful member over the years. He came up through the Union movements of the 20's and 30's.

The 19th district centered then in Youngstown, Ohio which was a Mecca for immigrants who worked in the 27 miles stretch of Steelmills along the Mahoning River. Kirwin’s grand desire was to build a canal from Lake Erie to the Ohio River (a project often referred to as Kirwin's ditch) for Barge service to and from the mills.

In meetings with Youngstown Industry Leaders, it was quickly recognized the Valley’s Industrial Future was in jeopardy because of the lack of water during the summer months. The steelmills need for open hearth and blast furnace cooling water became more of a demand than having Barge service as the steel industry continue to grow during the late 30’s, 40’s and 50’s. Thus, the Kirwin’s ditch wasn’t a desire any more but, a necessity for the salvation the steel industry.

Kirwin managed to get congress to approve a feasibility study by the Army Corps of Engineers but, the cost of the project would be in excess of $50 million and his Democrat colleagues told him to go pound salt because his project was not a major need for a still growing community and this was the proof in the pudding that the Democrats needed!!! I have to give Kirwin credit, he almost got it but, was put off by getting earmarks to improve area road ways for truck traffic that would service the steel industry in the future.

Everything that Kirwin was able to get done, did help Youngstown's economy but, it was for not. In 1977, it took a Democrat President, Jimmy Carter, to destroy the booming economy of Youngstown by signing into law an amendment to the EPA Act of 1972.

I just don't get it, with the damage Democrat Politicians did to Younstown's economy, the people there, are still die-hard Democrats. What is it they don't see?

It has been years since I have checked but, Kirwin's oldest son did reside in Washington, D.C.

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39AntiFascist(61 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

"Six months after rising to power, Italian Fascists had dismantled working-class organizations, significantly reduced wages in certain areas, abolished taxes on inheritance and war profits, and emphasized the need for "national production."

Welcome to the world that is the new republicans party.

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40Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

"David Betras, the Mahoning County Democratic Party chairman, wrote in a statement that Kasich’s visit “amounts to nothing more than a slap in the face” to every union worker at the GM plant."

Give us a real treat and bring that far left liberal Barney Frank back to The Valley, Dave ! At least you're not out of touch,right ?

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