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Hubbard honking hassle heats up



Published: Wed, January 19, 2011 @ 12:07 a.m.

By Ashley Luthern

aluthern@vindy.com

HUBBARD

Although the mayor had plenty to say about enforcement of a horn-honking ordinance Tuesday night, he remained silent about his reasons for placing police Chief Martin Kanetsky on paid administrative leave.

“No comment,” said Mayor Richard D. Keenan, as soon as Kanetsky’s name was mentioned by reporters.

The chief was put on leave, effective Jan. 6, by the mayor, and Sgt. Louis Carsone is acting chief.

About 25 residents attended Tuesday’s two-hour long city council meeting. Many were there to speak out against the horn-honking ordinance.

Michelle Merold, 20, told council that she received a letter from Girard Court stating she honked her car horn in April 2010 on Liberty Street. She added the vehicle noted in the warning letter was “totaled” in December 2009.

“How did [the court] get my license information?” she asked City Law Director Jeffrey D. Adler.

Adler replied that someone can take down a license plate number and send a public-records request to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles for a name and mailing address.

Council President William J. Williams said that he also received a warning letter from court for his car that is no longer in use. He said the car’s horn “didn’t work.”

Earlier in the meeting, Adler had addressed the ordinance.

“The ordinance basically says you shall not blow your car horn unless it is to warn pedestrians or other vehicles,” he said. “Contrary to news reports, this isn’t going to be enforced for someone tapping their horn to their neighbor, or pulling in their driveway and beeping twice to pick up a relative.”

Sandra Horforth of Hubbard told council she was concerned about snow piling up on sidewalks, and this subject also led back to the horn-honking ordnance. Horforth said it seemed that the mayor was picking and choosing which ordinances to enforce.

Keenan called the snow- removal ordinance unenforceable because city workers couldn’t cite every person who didn’t remove snow, and it would be unfair if they cited only some people.

“Isn’t that what you’re doing with the horn honking?” Williams asked to applause from the crowd. He also asked the mayor if the snow-removal ordinance needed to be changed to which the mayor said no.

Earlier in the meeting, Keenan read a statement saying he wanted to protect everyone with the horn-honking ordinance.

“To get to the meat of this issue, we have recently had a problem with a young man with a pellet gun. ... Immediately, I knew as mayor I must protect the East Hill neighborhood in every and any way I could,” he said.

Keenan was referring to a Dec. 18 confrontation at East Liberty and Creed streets between Garrick G. Krlich, 49, of 713 E. Liberty St., and Matthew Shelton, 19, of 80 Parrish Ave. Police reports state that Shelton was charged with aggravated menacing. The case is pending.

Krlich previously told police he set up video surveillance with audio to catch horn honking. Since July 2008, there have been some 70 police reports involving Krlich, many of them about horn-blowing incidents, according to Vindicator files.

“We have to take control of this situation and act like adults. I don’t want to see some young kid get run over by cars speeding through our town or someone chasing a car because it blew its horn,” Williams said.

Twice the mayor and council president exchanged sharp remarks and at one point, Williams reminded the mayor that he, Williams, was presiding over the meeting.


Comments

1Photoman(1005 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

So Council President Williams wants everyone to act like adults. It would follow that he doesn't see the citizens as adults. Looks like he's just kissing up to Mayor Keenan and trying to cover his butt. Between the non snow removal, the horn honking and the situation with the Police Chief, I'd say things aren't very rosy in Hubbard and it all comes back to the Mayor.

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2ExitStrategy(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

This makes for great reading 3000 miles away, as do many of the comments. If I am ever back in the hood I am going to pay my respects to Krlich now that it's THE big thing to do in Hubbard

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3Morrigan(83 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I'm curious why people started honking at Krlich's house in the first place. It almost sounds like a dumb joke that got out of hand.

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4ExitStrategy(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

If you look back far enough you will find out the the "Honked At" lost a court case and soured the grapes of others.. Honking ensued and over time it became "the" thing to do when passing by. 90% of the "Honkers" have no clue why they're honking.

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5sameolhub(56 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Hubbard has been know for selective enforcement of its' ordinances. Bill Williams is 100 percent correct. If you have been on the receiving end of the selective enforcment because of what your last name is, it can be expensive and not enjoyable. Krlich needs to be evaluated by a shrink. I understand he has nearly a hundred photo's on his basement floor layed out that he refers to as his "line up". What gives this loon the right to chase people and endager the lives of others? The young man who held a pellet gun to his head should have ALL charges dismissed, if this moron chased me and pulled me over I would feel that I was acting in self defense. The kid should have shoved the gun in this a holes mouth and shattered a few of his pearly whites in the process. This clown will make national news when he goes postal and starts killing people, and Mr. Mayor that blood will be on your hands....

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6JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

When's the next Hubbard city council meeting? Sounds like one of these would be an evening of entertainment.

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7sameolhub(56 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Photoman, You are wrong. Williams totally disagress with Mayor. The big issue with me is paying for two police chiefs and only one is working. No comment No comment is BULLSH@T. If you have something concrete then use it, if not Mayor STOP PLAYING GAMES with the tax payers money and bring Chief Kanestsky back to work.

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8mrblue(999 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

It sure is nice to see a city other than CAMPBELL in the news lately. On the other hand, there is a council meeting in Campbell tonight.

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9Silence_Dogood(1353 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Are there provisions for a recall vote for the office of Mayor in Hubbard, if so they might want to look into that option. That might get the Mayors attention.

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10Silence_Dogood(1353 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Are there provisions for a recall vote for the office of Mayor in Hubbard, if so they might want to look into that option. That might get the Mayors attention.

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11MG(2 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The City of Hubbard has become a complete JOKE! "the city of Hubbard is getting a bad name and a black eye" NO CRAP! What exactly did you think was going to happen when you decided it was necessary to enforce such a stupid ordinance!! Not surprising that people are driving from out of town to honk their horns!! Probably because they think it's a JOKE as do most of us! Quit wasting time and money...get a clue...and get over it! Perhaps you should have been spending more time worrying about what the Chief was doing on city time and less time worrying about nonsense like this!! The Mayor is a joke....his "no comment" BS is getting real old. I'm ashamed to live in this city right now! What a freaking embarrassment!!!!

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12jgm820(115 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

John Clemente is the Fire Chief. He bought the property and his college age children reside there. I'm sure on top of not getting the extra abating property, Mr. Krlich is none to happy to have young neighbors.

Yep censoredship, I had heard bits and pieces of this story, but your link put the pieces together.

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13sameolhub(56 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

It is no ones business the age of the occupants that Mr. Clemente chose to put in the property as long as they are legal age. Hey Kralich, "Ill give you 10,000.00 for your house....

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14ValleyNative(174 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I am glad that I can say that I grew up in the only respectable locality in Trumbull County, that being McDonald. Go Blue Devils!!

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15hubresident(12 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Read between the lines people...Once again the media got the story wrong, it is not about enforceing the horn ordinance...Now that the police departement is sitting accross the street watching Krlich's house he can no longer get into his car and "take the law into his own hands" by chasing people and banging on their car windows or chasing them until they lay their motorcycle down. Stand UP and turn the table on him, file POLICE reports for everything he does wrong! This man has been harassing the citizens of Hubbard for years now and as citizens we need to take a stand, Tuesday nights meeting was the beginning... the Mayor can't protect the violator if he is caught committng the crime. CALL THE POLICE and file!

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16comeonpeople(5 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

hubresident, I agree with you that Hubbard needs to take a stand and Tuesday's meeting was the begining but the were not many people there. ALOT of people are complaining and this has become the talk of the town (and unfortunately other towns) but where were all these people on Tuesday...I was there, were they? Next council meeting is the 1st Monday in February, tell your friends and neighbors.

To answer your question censoredship there is no story regarding the neighbor inhabitant next store, if you drive by there there is usually not a car in site b/c the inhabitant doesn't feel comfortable being there due to the crazy neighbor next store. You are right, you are not the only person who is unsure who is wrong b/c the WHOLE story is not being told. Mr Krlich has been hiding behind his video cameras and night vision cameras and rumor is now infared cameras: why doesn't he throw a press conference or throw a public meeting so we can ALL ask him questions...I'll tell you why, it's b/c he is LIAR and he doesn't want to get caught but he will be caught one day and this will ALL come out and him and the (APPOINTED) mayor and anyone else involved protecting and helping this lunatic will have alot of questions to answer. I just pray that no-one gets hurt before the truth comes out b/c IT WILL COME OUT.

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17southsidedave(4784 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

People love to honk their horns!!! Morons!!!

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