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Student faces expulsion

Published: Tue, February 1, 2011 @ 12:00 a.m.

Staff report


A high-school student serving a 10-day suspension for fighting also is facing expulsion.

Police said a 17-year-old female senior assaulted a 16-year-old female junior last Tuesday. After lunch, words were exchanged, and a fight ensued between the two, with the senior being the assailant, officers said.

The 16-year-old had two large, swollen lumps on the left part of her forehead and the back of her head and was taken to a doctor for treatment, police said.

Juvenile-court authorities are reviewing the case to determine if charges should be filed against the senior.

The teen immediately was given a 10-day suspension with a recommendation for expulsion, said Superintendent Robert Zorn.

“If you fight in school, you get suspended. ... The reason for [the expulsion recommendation] is the severity of the fight according to the principal,” Zorn said.

The girl who was injured was not disciplined, he added.

“She was on the receiving end and tried to protect herself,” Zorn said.


1endthismess(414 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Remove this 17 year old over grown bully brat from school totally, no tolerance. If these punky kids don't want to learn, send them on their way right out the door, off the property and issue a restraining order. Parents and families need to stop bagging up their trash and dropping it off at the schools. Leave your trash at home.

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2ValleyNative(174 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Hmmm...Poland must have open enrollment? No child with such an ever-present silver spoon would misbehave.

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3anthonyjames(17 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I had to register to comment after reading this. This could not have "just" happened, there had to be some signs there were problems. Did the victim complain of being threatened? Was the schol aware of this girsl fear of being attacked? If so what did they do about it to prevent this from happeneing? Why were there no school employees present to prevent this? We send our kids to school with the number one issue before education, safety. Schools are mandated by law to provide a SAFE enviornment for kids to learn. How is this kid who was attacked suppose to go back to school and not feel threatened or scared and be expected to learn.If this were my child I would sue the school board, the superintendent , and the principal for failing to keep our children safe. But I am sure they will asking for more tax dollars so they could all get raises. Also, would be intertesting to see what they do to the students who taunt the victim after the fact? things may be getting interesting in Poland, if you live there make sure your kids are safe. Go to your school board meeting and ask how a thing like this can happen? Also, dont they have cameras in school for just these type of things. Sad to see this happen, hopefully the child anf there family are ok. Thoughts and prayers for you.

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4areyouserious(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Clearly the first two people didn't hear side of the story. How can you say that Poland must have open enrollment? There has been multiple other fights at this school. There has been drug dealings going on DURING SCHOOL HOURS and those kids were suspended. How can you expect a girl to get expelled for getting in a fight. There has been many fights at PSHS and they all end up in suspension. It isn't the 17 year olds fault that the 16 year old didn't fight back. Most people that have heard about this fight are unaware that the senior wasn't the one who started the confrontation. This is a completely ridiculous situation and has been taken way out of control. If the 17 year old gets expelled over this petty drama, I will forever change my opinion of the Poland school district. I will never vote for a levy to pass, I will never donate money, NOTHING.

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5runnergirl203(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I, also, felt compelled to make an account after reading this article. Not because of the article itself, but because of the previous comments made regarding the article. I feel as if this article is very vague in the aspect that it is biased towards the '17-year-old female senior ' because she was the assailant. The '16-year-old female' must have provoked this attack. I am not making an excuse for the 17 year old, I am merely suggesting that the 16 year old cannot be assumed as completely innocent. The fact that she did not receive punishment is sickening. This article should be read with an open mind, it is only fair to assume that there was a reason behind this fight. Being very familiar with Poland Seminary High School and it's students, I can confidently say with no doubt in my mind that the '17-year-old female senior' would not maliciously attack the '16-year-old female junior' without reason. PSHS is a blue ribbon school and there is not one student enrolled that is 'trash' (referring to the comment made by 'endthismess'). That unintellectual remark is something that I would expect a 16 year old to make. Today's society is so corrupt. The school has not expelled previous students involved in fights, so this fight should be no different. Why would we expel a senior who has made it this far over one fight is beyond me. There have been several fights in PSHS, and there will be more to come. The 16 year old is not severely injured, hospitalized, or permanently damaged - so therefore this fight was not severe enough for the 17 year old to be arrested- she should not be expelled. All I can say is that this fight must have been provoked, otherwise it wouldn't have happened. And the role of the '16 year-old junior' should be looked into. The 17 year old was suspended, and i'm sure she has learned her lesson. The 16 year old has been beat up, and i'm sure that she has also learned hers.

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6galaxy4(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Yes, let's sue the school because your brat of a daughter got into a fight... Come on. Think about it, if you were in her shoes and your mommy and daddy were creating a lawsuit because of this wouldn't you think here would be a huge target on your back? By students, and staff. If there was a lawsuit and the family won that would make a HUGE affect on the school, and the other Poland schools. Meaning fewer teachers to teach which would drop the Poland school out of the “EXCELLENT” spot, uh no! Think that comment about suing was just flat out stupid. Another thing, I'm sure there are cameras but there isn't somebody sitting at the monitor watching them the whole day. They are there for safety (i.e. incase some psycho were to come in the school with weapons.) Not to prevent fights you obviously don’t know a thing if you actually think that somebody sits there watching them all day. Come on they have better things to waste money on. And then the comment about the younger girl starting it, there is no proof. If you ask one girl they’ll say the other one started it, and vise versa. Here’s the problem, basically everybody in Poland thinks they are better than one another, so maybe if these two girls weren’t such ignorant brats then maybe, just maybe, this wouldn’t have happened.

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7polandgal96(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

i would like to say, i GO to this school and missed this fight but im getting sick and tired of all of u ppl bagging on the school and how its open enrollment! so what!! it's not the school its the person and not all ppl in poland r think they r bttr then evry1, im the complete opposite i think evry1 is bttr thn me! so take all of this in 2 consitteration b4 u type and bag on my school oh and btw eather austintown or canfeild has 3 girls that r pregnent so witch is worse fighting or becoming mothers in high school?

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8Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

In Youngstown Schools one on one would be no big deal .

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9galaxy4(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Polandgal96, you say you go to Poland Seminary High School, however the way you talk and your lack of education is making it clear you don't pay attention in class. Have you ever heard of the Constitution or the First Amendment or it. People baiscally say anything but fire in a public place. Plus I'm a PSHS Alumni (sadly) who cares if people are "bagging" on the school. This is a comment/message board on an artical that was writting people are allowed to express their opinion. Try and take a typing class before it's too late, and use spell check when you want try to make a point about something.

oh p.s. Poland has had many teen mom's before your time so don't say the girls in the other schools are worse

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1044509resident(46 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Lmao @ galaxy4 i was checking out the spelling too. They must be in a basement class.

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11Just_me(18 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I agree with EndThisMess...remove the bully from the school permanently. Her behavior is not befitting the dignity of a PSHS diploma. If she were over 18 her butt would be in jail this very minute as this was not a fight, but a brutal and vicious ASSAULT in which she attacked a girl from behind, totally blindsiding her and causing head injuries. Why isn't she in JJC by now? That is why she is being recommended for expulsion from school. It was an attack, not a fight in which 2 people go at it. And just so you all know, the assailant's friends are the only ones describing this as petty drama and defending her, namely the assailant's male friend who also is a bully to girls in school.(He is too much a sissy to pick on his own gender). Bullies are never provoked, they prey on the innocent and love the power it gives them. In this case, I understand there has been a pattern of bullying reported...it is just too bad that it came to this. It should have been handled more aggressively and squelched. In this particular case, it was a pre-meditated attack which may mean the girl gets sentenced on more harsh charges. Good for her. That predatory behavior is illegal and I hope the school district and the parents of the victim prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. It is the only thing that will stop sociopaths like this girl and her friend, who both have a record of other deviant behavior.

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12equality2016(1 comment)posted 4 years, 7 months ago


I don't know who you think you are or what you are trying to accomplish by the posting of your last comment. You clearly established yourself to be a low life, which obviously likes to pick a side and then offend everyone else - EVEN IF THEY AREN'T INVOLVED. Try learning the facts of what happened, before you rant and go all out on a tangent about what is completely false. The student involved deserves a PSHS diploma, whether you think so or not. There were words said outside of PSHS, which led to the fight, and if I'm not mistaken - the girl who was ultimately injured first said them. Now, I'm not going to stoop to your level and ridicule teenage students, however, you may want to check up on your definition of "bully" before you run your mouth. If in fact the 16-year-old had erratically said something to the 17-year-old student outside of Poland Seminary High School, I believe she would then be considered the bully in this situation. Therefore, the assailant WAS provoked and I have now proven you wrong. HA. Think before you speak and next time you might not look so unintelligent.

Now, to call this behavior "predatory" is simply bizarre. If you can find the time out of your day to stop ranting about teenage students, try to pick up a Merriam-Webster and look up the definition of that word. You made yourself look foolish to those from Youngstown and surrounding areas who are reading this. I hope you feel special :)

Lastly, don't even get me started on you running your mouth about the assailant's friends. Do you even have any? You seem so cold-hearted and inconsiderate that I can't seem to think of anyone who would want to communicate with you. As someone who has attempted to obviously attain all known facts about this case to then something along the lines of, "In this particular case, it was a pre-meditated attack which may mean the girl gets sentenced on more harsh charges. Good for her," you clearly need to see a psychiatrist about your condition because to me, and probably most of the people who will read your comment, you are nothing but a scum bag and are probably behind the reasoning of others belittling Poland. Now that I have proven you wrong on more than one topic, I’m going to enjoy the rest of my night and think about how happy I am that God has blessed me with a brain. With that said, have a nice night.

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