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Mooney investigation to take up to 2 weeks



Published: Sat, December 17, 2011 @ 12:10 a.m.

By Denise Dick

denise_dick@vindy.com

Youngstown

A police investigation into a reported locker-room champagne celebration by Cardinal Mooney football players is expected to take up to two weeks.

Representatives from the Catholic Diocese of Youngstown met Friday morning with city Police Chief Rod Foley, city Prosecutor Jay Macejko and a juvenile court prosecutor to discuss the alleged incident.

“We just gave them the information and they’re going to do whatever they have to do,” said Nicholas Wolsonovich, acting superintendent of diocese schools.

He said he doesn’t know how many students may have been involved.

“We had detailed conversations about the incident, and we exchanged some information and some ideas about where the investigations could lead,” Macejko said. “Chief Foley indicated he was going to assign someone to follow up on a few open questions that we had, and once all of the investigation is complete, we will — we meaning city officials — sit down and discuss it amongst ourselves and then meet again with the diocese.”

After Mooney’s Dec. 2 state championship win, the diocese received reports of students drinking champagne in the school locker room after the game.

Four students already have been issued one-day suspensions after smoking cigars in the school courtyard during a post-game celebration, but in a move of solidarity, 41 football players said they would serve the suspension, too. Smoking violates school policy.

After receiving the reports of alcohol being consumed, the diocese conducted an internal investigation.

Foley said he’s assigned two investigators to build upon the diocese investigation.

He named two investigators because of the number of people that are expected to be interviewed. Part of the investigation will involve how students obtained the alcohol if it’s determined they were drinking it.

“We’re going to look at the facts we find and determine whether it’s ripe enough for a criminal case or if it’s better to handle it by the school administratively or both,” Foley said.


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1taxme(345 comments)posted 3 years ago

Really what a horrible example these so called parents have been. It's evident by the comments made on here by some of their children and by recent graduates that it's only because everyone is against mooney because it's a Catholic school. Idiots it's because YOUR principle obviously encourages this behavior and was evident by his comments as reported by a very brave WYTV. Take your punishment like other schools would. Your no better than anyone else no matter what your delusional parent's think!

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2republicanRick(1251 comments)posted 3 years ago

Mooney parents will sweep this under the rug like all their other discipline problems.
They say they believe in God and his teachings but they do not live by his word. Their actions never back up Catholic beliefs, they only attack, attack, attack and say we are the greatest and beyond reproach.
If you want further proof just read their vile rants on other Vindy messages.

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3DOLE2(594 comments)posted 3 years ago

Lighten up people! Cigars and champagne....Big F****** Deal !

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4UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 3 years ago

The video I saw of the cigar smoking Mooney bell ringers on Channel 5 in Cleveland was disgusting. I hope some of these parents who supplied the alcohol and cigars end up in jail. So much for a moral Catholic education!

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5joseph(47 comments)posted 3 years ago

If this was Ursuline it wouldn't even make the news.

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6mrblue(1067 comments)posted 3 years ago

I wonder if they will have to give up the state title and trophy. Rules were broken. Probably not. Just a thought.

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7republicanRick(1251 comments)posted 3 years ago

Here is how the Mooney coverup will take place, no parent will have the stones to step forward. No parent or kid will rat on the booze supplier for fear of retribution from Bucci.
They will collectively say we are going to pray. No one will be held accountable, no one will be punished and they will go on their merry way.

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8ConServRep(16 comments)posted 3 years ago

Single parent moms, my foot! This had nothing to do with any kind of moms. From the hype and hysteria leading up to this game (or really, any game at Cardinal Mooney) to the encouragements and approvals (and participation) of the administrative and coaching staff, to the idiot parents who have to relive their Mooney days, this outcome was practically a given. That it continues to be a news story is due solely to the comments by the principal, who although he felt it was excusable to simply say he had "explained to the parents it was wrong", didn't actually know any better himself. He can't tell the difference between talking to a reporter and talking to his "Mooney family". This after-game celebration by the kids wouldn't have been any different than what goes on with kids anywhere, had the parents and school staff had better judgement, but that would have required some basic intelligence. Maybe the kids should have known better than the adults who surrounded them, but in what perfect world? Every signal they were getting (and being provided with cigars and alcohol is a pretty powerful one) was that it was A-OK to consider this win the most powerful thing in their lives and that it was A-OK to with everyone from parents, to coaches to the principal to act just like the adults were acting and it was all considered "celebrating".

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9AnotherAverageCitizen(1175 comments)posted 3 years ago

Mooneygate continues....

The students, parents, coaching staff should all be held accountable. Knowing how high of a standard Mooney claims thmeselves to be, well see how they respond to this. Just ask Jim Tressell and Pryor what happens when students recieve illegal stuff and others hide it. If the students drinking champagne and cigars were off scholl property, ( we've all beeen there done that) then it is a complely different story.

Does cardinal Mooney have a ZERO tollerance to drugs and alcohol. The coaches and students should be held to the same standards.

For those saying the kids were just reacting to what was given to them is just ignorant excuses. Is the kid were handed cocaine and pot, would that be OK in the locker room. How about kids being handed guns and shootings out on the street, well that must be OK for Mooney kids because they are just kids and don't know any better.

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10BetterAmerica(2 comments)posted 3 years ago

The Solution to this situation is simple....Mooney and the Athletic Department should surrender the State Title to the school that lost the final game....Because they are NOT deserving of the State Title due to their behavior, nor are their parents. This is not NFL/College football...It is High School in the sake of God...To which we Trust.

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11AnotherAverageCitizen(1175 comments)posted 3 years ago

A lot of schools now alcohol test students going to proms and such.
Not Cardinal Mooney!!!! They supply it for the students. No wonder kids want to go there.

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12ConServRep(16 comments)posted 3 years ago

I'm not excusing the kids, but it wasn't just anyone handing this stuff out and participating. You're missing the point here. The irony is that most of these kids would know better if another kid had brought the stuff to school and handed it out - or at the very least they would have not been filmed with it, for example. But in what circumstance would you reasonably expect kids - high school boys, yet - to say no to parents and staff handing this stuff out and using it themselves? Thats a bit much, and that's what happened. Then to top it off, a principal, who has this job for god knows what reason, should at the very least be shielded from any contact whatsoever from reporters, then makes the lack of judgment at the top crystal clear to a reporter. This story hit the wires because of those comments, which no surprise, turned the spotlight on parental and staff involvement. Those comments made it obvious it went way beyond a kid thing, and that not only were the parents involved, the staff didn't know any better themselves.

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13ClassyCard69(3 comments)posted 3 years ago

14 kids got arrested at Boardman for having DRUGS in their lockers but yeah Mooney is the school if problems

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14southsidedave(4858 comments)posted 3 years ago

The findings will be swept under the rug and it will be business as usual.

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15ConServRep(16 comments)posted 3 years ago

to classy card re Boardman lockers: Can you not process the fact that what made this story hit the wires was the provision, participation and approval by parents, staff and administration?? If that Mooney principal would have answered intelligently "we'll deal with it according to our no tolerance rules" it wouldn't have been a story. Like the Boardman lockers werent a story, because everyone knows this stuff goes on, unfortunately, everywhere. What makes this news is that it was provided, tolerated, and even encouraged, and even excused by the parents, staff and administration.

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16PerfectBlue(3 comments)posted 3 years ago

Sick of hearing "it's no big deal" "Mooney is a good school" "these are good kids" "kids will be kids" "they thanked God for their win" "but they were just celebrating" "quit hating on Mooney"...seriously, enough. It was illegal, it was wrong. Bad decisions were made, and now those involved have to be held accountable for their actions. it's too bad that the people who should have been looking out for these boys failed to do their jobs.

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17taxme(345 comments)posted 3 years ago

Classy Card you define mooney class! Lol

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18JBullfrog(21 comments)posted 3 years ago

"Four students already have been issued one-day suspensions after smoking cigars . . . in a move of solidarity, 41 football players said they would serve the suspension, too." In other words, the entire football team is going to skip a day of school. There isn't a high school student in the state that would consider missing one day of school a punishment. Regarding the champagne, I have no problem with parents giving it to their children at home, but I imagine the school has very specific policies regarding alcohol. If it is true that the coaching staff and administration knew alcohol was being served and allowed it to happen, they should be punished even more severely than the students.

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19jmagaratz(167 comments)posted 3 years ago

Football proves once again that it makes IDIOTS! 41 players join in a show of solidarity and serve the same suspension! How ridiculous. I say the entire team should be suspended for one full grade period and required to work their butts off academically to get back into good standing. The parents involved should be required to pay a triple indemnity in the form of 3 x the current tuition for each year of their child's attendance.

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20ConServRep(16 comments)posted 3 years ago

to jbullfrog: when you say "I have no problem with parents giving it to their kids at home" you may have hit onto the only possible explanation for all this stupidity. Quite possibly those Mooney parents and staff think of the school as home, and everyone there as "Mooney family", or in other words are truly stuck in their senior year, because life afterward turned out not to be one prep rally after another "honoring" their football participation, whatever it may have been, if not as an overly indulged player, than at least a loyal appreciative fan. Can we really hold them to the standards of fully functioning adults, these Mooney loyalists orphaned by graduation?

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21joebag09(267 comments)posted 3 years ago

Folks....you have to remember this.....Mooney is and always will be above reproach! They are standard setters! Mooney has always been treated differently. More news coverage, bigger articles, etc. Heck, they were even able to take over a city street to add to their property!

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22ConServRep(16 comments)posted 3 years ago

Yes, but at least we can be grateful they won and didn't lose. Can you imagine the behavioral fallout there? After the endless rallies and hopes had been whipped up to optimistic preparations such as the laying in of celebratory treats? I do have to admit, that despite whatever incompetent judgement put certain people in charge at certain levels - which must have had something to do with football considerations of course, and whatever made the football family feel supported; that at the upper administrative level, the diocese is making all the right moves to get the story to go away and doing everything they can to counterbalance the principal's newsmaker that he intended to do nothing. Its a shame it has gone this far, but that's what happens when competency isn't valued.

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23taxme(345 comments)posted 3 years ago

Bottom line is the arrogent parents that think because where they went to school or because of where their children attend school make them better than anyone else. I think most non supporters of these parents new something like this was eventually going to happen. Lesson to be learned children, believe it or not you're no better than the kid that goes to public school next door to you regardless of what your mother or father tells you!

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24realfan63(19 comments)posted 3 years ago

Proof positive that ALL private schools are NOT the same!!

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25joseph(47 comments)posted 3 years ago

mrrjytown....this would not be as big of a deal if it was ursuline being that they are a much lower profile school. I think everybody would agree that Mooney is a lot more well known across the state than ursuline

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26taxme(345 comments)posted 3 years ago

Ditto Educated Voter! You hit the nail right on the head. The legal drug alcohol is so deeply rooted into the "Families "!lifestyle that they don't even realize it. Just wonder up to the loges at any mooney football game at YSU or down to the MVR after the games for the parties that are put on for these children.
They do need to rethink their family habits.

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27joebag09(267 comments)posted 3 years ago

ClassyCard69.......none of this stuff should be "swepted" away. They all need to be held accountable, which it seems like no one from Mooney wants it to be. Also, I don't recall what finally happened to those fine gentlemen that went visiting last year to "crack heads" at a Canfield home?

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28briant(57 comments)posted 3 years ago

Well, here are a few points:
1. The "parents" probably did not buy it. When I went to Mooney we got into bars and had a "charge" account for beer at good old "Hulios" behind South Stadium. The kids smuggled it in..Accessability has not changed.I would be more inclined to blame the coaches in the lockeroom who had to see it all..

2. As a Mooney grad, these whole cigar and drinking incidents are a disgrace. We used to rent a hall or crash a house to party after the game. Bringing this on property is not cool. I hope the Bishop comes down hard on the coaches and leaders involved.

3. UHS still sucks. That will never change

4. At least is was not crack they were smokin" (lol).

5. STAN for Mayor

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29realfan63(19 comments)posted 3 years ago

joebag- good question RE: the fine gentleman. Always thought that incident just died down too quickly, never heard anything about any of those "gentlemen" being held accountable. briant; I've been around the other private schools (1 of which you say "sucks") quite a bit; so I feel safe in saying that the parents, coaches and EVERYONE else on staff at either one of those schools (UHS, YCS) would have put an immediate halt to the inappropriate activities at Mooney's celebration that night.

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30legend33(169 comments)posted 3 years ago

I have been waiting to light up my big Bob Marley as soon as a public school wins a state title...stay tuned

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31kperry(4 comments)posted 3 years ago

Really! Really!
For the people out there who seem to dislike Cardinal Mooney so much, you seem to know a great deal about them. Why don't you spend your time on more worth while things? Besides the rumors are just that rumors. I have it in good faith that the so called "alcohol" was a story spread around by some of the Mooney faculity who by no means loyal employees. I think who ever the staff memebers are that started this BIG LIE should be FIRED. What employeer would ever want a distrustful lying employee????

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32kperry(4 comments)posted 3 years ago

You know what really burns me up? The fact that when Cardinal Mooney goes to the numerous championship events, whether it be athlectic or academic, they are always listed as Youngstown Cardinal Mooney. When there is any negativity with regards to Cardinal Mooney THEN they are known as Cardinal Mooney the CATHOLIC school.
Come on Vindy be fair. How come we did not get a front page article about the drug raid at Boardman High School last week, or that students were aressted at Canfield for pot, or that Poland police were called to the school because two teen boys were fighting. Not news worthy????

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33Poster1(9 comments)posted 3 years ago

kperry,
You know what really burns me up? The fact that you even compared what happened at Boardman, Poland or Canfield to Mooney’s is wrong. The Boardman High School administrators called in the dogs to help find the drugs and then dealt with the students with the police. Administrator’s doing their jobs. Poland administrators also called the police to deal with a situation that called for not only school policy violations but legal ones. Both schools held students accountable for their actions and administrators did their jobs. At Mooney the administrators stood there and allowed the students to not only violate school policy but break laws. Administrators DID NOT DO THEIR JOBS. I don't think that your comparisons are the same. Mooney's administrators, coaches, teachers and parents are the problem. Kids will make mistakes but adults should make them learn from the mistake not encourage them.

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34republicanRick(1251 comments)posted 3 years ago

Well said Poster. kperry just another Mooney alum justifying their terrible behavior and lashing out at other school kids.

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35kperry(4 comments)posted 3 years ago

I am not talking about what administration did their jobs!!! I asking why it was not on the front page of the Vindy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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36bamabiker(6 comments)posted 3 years ago

My dad played football at Mooney in the 60's and all I heard growing up was what a great school it was. So when I walked through the doors as a student for the first time in 1994 I was shocked to hear of all the drinking and shenanigans that went on over the weekends. Face it, it was only a matter of time before someone got caught. Daddy always told me that we all put on our pants one leg at a time in the morning. So as I've said before, punish the offenders and make an example of them. By the way that nice congressman we produced, Jim Traficant, did some time in federal prison the last time I checked. I'm just sayin...

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37Westsider(224 comments)posted 3 years ago

Wonder what the OHSAA has to say about this? With all the cheating and recruiting from other schools that Mooney (and Ursuline) has done in the past - it is interesting that this type of illegal activity is getting the most attention

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38Life888(17 comments)posted 2 years, 12 months ago

Punish the kids and their parents! Smoking and drink alcohol cause harm to people!

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39AnotherAverageCitizen(1175 comments)posted 2 years, 12 months ago


We will see if Mooney has a true ZERO tolerance policy..

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40chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 2 years, 12 months ago

This matter could have wider impications in the upcoming battle for county prosecutor. If Macejko hides behing Foley or is lenient and refuses to bring charges against the parents, prosecutor gaines will have a strong argument to make.

Hold on for the ride if this happens.

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41realfan63(19 comments)posted 2 years, 12 months ago

chuck you are right! also; let's see if the Vindy lets this just "go away" or if the vindy applies some pressure. This will say a lot, one way or the other whether the vindy has any real journalistic credibility!

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