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Hubbard ODNR reps back in Valley

Published: Wed, December 14, 2011 @ 12:05 a.m.

Residents inquire about proposed injection-well site

By Robert Guttersohn



Less than a month after Ohio Department of Natural Resources representatives took the three-hour drive from Columbus to Coitsville, they were back in the Mahoning Valley on Tuesday.

This time they appeared in front of Hubbard Townhip trustees and approximately 50 township residents who had questions of ODNR regarding a proposed injection well slated to be constructed on Hubbard Masury Road near Interstate 80.

Injection wells, which often are drilled as deep as 9,000 feet below the ground, accept brine water from well drilling, including fracking, a process in which water, chemicals and sand are blasted into rocks thousands of feet below the ground to unlock oil and natural gas.

The proposed site for the injection well is along the Little Yankee Run Creek, which eventually empties into the Shenango River.

Several communities in western Pennsylvania rely on the river for drinking water.

D&L Energy would drill the well, the same company that has done so in Coitsville. And like the ODNR meeting in Coitsville, a D&L Energy representative was not present to answer some questions specific to the Hubbard site.

The theme of Tuesday’s meeting was, “Is this the right site?”

“We have no say-so in the site they choose,” said ODNR geologist Tom Tomastik.

The site would consist of 20 holding tanks and a dyke that would be large enough to hold back 100 percent of the brine water from flowing into the creek if all tanks began to leak.

He said D&L Energy would drill 9,100 feet into the earth and inject brine water through pores in the rock formation. Tomastik said they will not know how many gallons the rock formation can take a day until the well is drilled and tested.

Residents also were concerned about the possible link between the wells and the recent uptick in earthquakes. The earthquakes’ epicenter has been in proximity to Youngstown’s D&L Energy well on the city’s West Side.

Heidi Hetzel-Evans, communications manager with the ODNR division of mineral resource management, said all tests ODNR performed by the site have found no link between the quakes and the injection well.

“We’ve even gone to outside sources to tell us if they see a link,” she said in reference to the seismographs Columbia University’s Lamon-Doherty Earth Observatory placed near the injection well. “So far they have found no link.”

Township Trustee Fred Hanley and Zoning Administrator John Pieton questioned the location of the well not only because of the natural resources surrounding it but because of its impact on businesses.

“I just don’t know why in the middle of this business district we need an injection well,” Pieton said to Tomastik. “What are the benefits locally?”

ODNR Department Chief Tom Tugend said the jobs created by the well would be “minimal.”

Hanley said the increased traffic the well would create by trucks waiting to unload brine water would “ruin the interchange” near I-80 and Hubbard Masury Road.

“I drove down to the injection well site [in Youngstown] and counted 17 trucks backed up waiting to be unloaded,” he said.

He encouraged residents to call their state representatives and tell them to change the law regarding local municipalities having no zoning control over the wells.

“We don’t have a voice,” said one resident who asked not to be named. “I’m listening to your adjectives and adverbs — shouldn’t, probably, might — but you don’t give us much confidence.”


1glbtactivist(320 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

There is nothing about this new fracting procedure that sounds good for the neighborhood in the long run. Of course the companies doing the fracting don't care if they leave this area a wasteland in the future.

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2Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Plenty of wells have been drilled in the Little Yankee Run Creek drainage area . Wildlife drink from the creek and there are no carcasses on its banks . The injection well will be drilled much deeper . The State of Ohio mandates that brine be disposed of in such a fashion . The only chance of a leak from the deep injection well would be from a meteor impact .



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3DwightK(1535 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

We should follow PA's example and outlaw this toxic sludge.

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4Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

We should all apply for foreign aid before the economy collapses from a drilling ban . It is prudent to be prepared and China could ship us some rice so we could eat . . .. The liberals won't be happy until squalor is experienced by all of us .

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5rocky14(830 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Don't you think there is a good reason why Pa. won't put this garbage in THEIR ground???

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6rocky14(830 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Carl and Stan

They should put these wells in your back yard.Lol

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7Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Love to have them . . .. I could use the money . . ..

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8Bigben(1996 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

"Youngstown makes the NY Times in regards to the sudden earthquakes...."

- -My friend who moved to California called the other day to catch up on what is going on and his first question was about the earth quakes.He is a conservative and when I told him what was going on his words were "how stupid"! Looks like we are famous again.

PA doesn't want the toxic soup because it is no good.Only someone lacking common sense would want that near them.

Even a groundhog has the good God given sense not to pxxx and crap where it sleeps and eats.

A whore will take all comers as long as they have some bucks.

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9southsidedave(5189 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

It's all about the money

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