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YSU faculty union laments pay cuts in proposal

Published: Wed, August 24, 2011 @ 4:45 p.m.


The faculty union at Youngstown State University said the final best offer presented by YSU calls for take-home pay cuts of $5,000 to $10,000 per member.

“At the end of the three-year contract, faculty will be much worse off than they would have been had the Board of Trustees accepted the concessions in the fact finder’s report,” Stan Guzell, chief negotiator for the faculty union, said in a statement.

The union is expected to vote on the administration’s proposal Thursday afternoon.


1NoBS(2763 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

A REAL, IMPARTIAL newspaper wouldn't use words that show opinion or bias, such as "laments" in a headline for a story that alleges to report someone's statement. (I say "alleges" because I'm skeptical that the faculty union is being given fair coverage here.) Nobody's boo-hooing in the story - why slant the headline like that?

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2dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

"Take-home pay cuts" sounds like the University wants the faculty to pay more into either their retirement, their health care insurance or both. Also, I thought you weren't supposed to discuss details of negotiations in the press. Although, I personally think that both sides' demands should be out there for the taxpayers to see. At any rate, a strike would not make the union faculty look very good and could very well hurt their attempt to override SB.

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3observer21(17 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

Last time I checked, the union members were taxpayers. This "offer" from the admin. should be flatly rejected.

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4WhatRUAfraidOf(85 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago


Sorry, beg to differ. Unions have improved working conditions for ALL workers in the past 100 years. When I see Anderson give back her $25,000 publicly, then I'll believe that she is willing to share in the pain. Until then, um, no.

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5Ktuck1676(1 comment)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

Unions are in league with the communists? But FOX News told me they were operating with the socialists. Now I'm all confused....

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6woolyd(579 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

Hes back!!!!

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7db(280 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

YSU needs to fire every union clown and break their jackass union. Put the jobs out for open bid; no union membership involved; and get better professors at better prices. The administration is likewise over-inflated & overpaid. $119k a year for YSU professors teaching 6 hours a week is absurd, $400k a year + a mansion for YSU's president is equally absurd. At any given moment, 25% of YSU's professors are on paid sabbaticals; that's ridiculous. Student tuition pays only part of this, we taxpayers pick up the rest - it's a state funded school. The unions have destroyed the education system at all levels; protecting weak & inefficient teachers, discouraging good ones, and overpaying all of them.

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8NoBS(2763 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

UnionshateAmerica(59 comments)posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago

Whatruafraidof, union aren't the same today. Now they protect illegal aliens,


force their members to donate to policiticans and programs they're against,


attempt to force workers into joining their ranks,


protect bums who should be fired


and are proudly in league with the communists.


Hater, you're full of union-hate propaganda. I'm sure you can find some right-wing-zealot site to back up your absurd claims, but rational people understand that no unions protect illegal aliens (but several right-wing Republican Congress people do). No unions FORCE their members to donate to or support candidates with whom they disagree. Your hero, King John Kasich, on the other hand, wants to do that same thing, but he wants the bosses and owners to tell the workers who they MUST donate to and support, or else lose their jobs. No unions "attempt to force workers into joining their ranks." You do understand that it's in the union's - and therefore the workers' - best interest if everybody is a union member, don't you? And that for that reason workers are ENCOURAGED - not forced - to join. If an entity is able to negotiate to make your job safer, better paid, and so on, why on Earth would you NOT want to join it?

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9Tepee(7 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

“’Adherents say a regulation applying the 861 provision does not list wages as taxable, though it does say that “compensation for services’” is taxable.” http://madconomist.com/wesley-snipes-... So, no service to paying tax would equal no disability, SSI, Social Security Retirement, response from local fire department if your place may catch fire, no right to 911 services and no support of police when someone has made a decision to put the lights out for such an individual seeking such a limit upon a lifestyle. Glad that is cleared up for the moment!

Another wonderful insight with regard to the actual headline portrayal of YSU and the union could be why the OEA (e.g., union) may reject a final offer that is to an accord of the current economic time?

The fact being, YSU does not need to take back anyone refusing to come to work by any employee as it is the same as quitting any other job and failing to return. If the contract is at an end that contract has simply had fulfillment until expiration. No right to unemployment as a person was not fired for anything contestable, no right to contract renewal due to the break between a non-renewed contract and would pretty much be the same as if a contractor was complete with a job until completion. Where is the rocket science? Let them go if they think they deserve better (and could find better), lower the cost of attendance by lowering tuition and lab fees (which are unjustified to begin with), and let some of these teacher’s without a PhD earn a few thousand more a year in the name of some positive progress. After all, is not learning a process through progress?

Let us take this one step toward being realistic: MacDoogle employees decide to form a union to receive a $1000 per year pay increase to their minimal wage salary and decide to strike, what does anyone honestly believe will happen to each and every employee?

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10NoBS(2763 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

"Source: union websites" Yeah, sure. That's a verifiable source, all right. I can invent anything I want to say, and credit "tea party sources" and you'll believe it, right? No wonder you're in lockstep with the other envious, petty, niggardly Scrooges out there - you're just another "If I don't have it, nobody else deserves it" peasant.

My union does not, nor has it ever, had any use whatever for illegals. There have been, on occasion, people who chose not to belong to our union working alongside the union members. They were not harassed or intimidated or forced to do anything. The last one went all the way to retirement without being in the union.

As for protecting bums who should be fired - ever work for a family-run business? Who's the biggest piece of dead wood in the place? That's right, the family. They get twice the pay as those who actually keep the place running, and as anyone knows who's worked in that situation, the place runs better and more efficiently when they're not there at all. Why do over 90% of family-owned businesses fail when the second generation takes over? You figure it out - I already know.

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11howardinyoungstown(591 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

Maybe if the YSU administration led by example the faculty would be more willing to accept this proposal. Don't laugh there are administrators willing to do this check out this story from California. http://abcnews.go.com/US/school-super...

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