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SB 5 opponents snub invitation

Published: Sat, August 20, 2011 @ 12:12 a.m.


From left, Senate President Tom Niehaus, Gov. John Kasich and House Speaker Bill Batchelder criticize public-employee unions and other Senate Bill 5 opponents after the latter declined an invitation to participate in last-minute negotiations to remove Issue 2 — the new collective-bargaining law — from the November ballot.

By Marc Kovac



With an empty table topped with place cards naming the state’s top public-employee unions and six empty chairs for dramatic effect, Gov. John Kasich and Republican legislative leaders chastised Senate Bill 5 opponents Friday for refusing to participate in last-minute negotiations to remove Issue 2 from the November ballot.

The governor did say his door would remain open to union officials who are willing to talk.

“But, you know, the train’s left the station,” Kasich said. “Our campaign’s going to be strong. It’s going to involve the grass roots. People are going to know what’s going on.”

On Wednesday, Kasich, House Speaker Bill Batchelder and Senate President Tom Niehaus sent a formal letter to We Are Ohio, the group that spearheaded an effort to place Senate Bill 5 before voters, asking members to participate in negotiations that would lead to the removal of the issue from the ballot.

On Thursday, We Are Ohio responded that it would enter negotiations only if Republican lawmakers were called back into session before the end of the month to repeal Senate Bill 5 in its entirety. The bill would strip public employees of many collective-bargaining rights.

And on Friday, no representatives from We Are Ohio, the AFL-CIO, SEIU and other unions that represent teachers, police, firefighters and other public workers opted to attend Kasich’s compromise meeting near the Statehouse.

The governor, Niehaus and Batchelder instead used the occasion to tout the need for collective-bargaining reform and to spotlight, in their words, the refusal of labor unions to negotiate with them or the local government officials who sign their paychecks.

“You have the three leaders of the state of Ohio sitting here, the [Senate] president, the speaker of the House and the governor of the state, and they won’t show up?” Kasich said. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my entire career. What is going on with people?”

Batchelder called the lack of response “a complete abdication of moral responsibility on their part.”

“So here we are today … the second time around trying to work with the people who don’t want to come to the table, who don’t want to offer amendments, who don’t want to represent their own membership,” Batchelder said. “This is a dark hour. ... This is a tough time for those of us who believe in real collective bargaining.”

In a released statement afterward, We Are Ohio again called on Kasich and Republican lawmakers “to repeal all of Senate Bill 5, the unfair and unsafe bill that hurts us all. We Are Ohio called on these leaders to first repeal all of Senate Bill 5 to ensure a fresh start to the process. A total repeal prior to future discussions is needed due to the lack of trust resulting from the numerous political tricks these leaders played to pass Senate Bill 5.”


1ibustu(1 comment)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Nice to offer an invitation now, mr.gov. Why did you lock us out earlier this year and rough up the public workers? Did you think we were going to sit back and accept it? Your political future lies in stake and you know it, mr one term gov!
Sb5will go down in a fiery crash and the dominance of a republican governor will suffer too.
Wait and see,we will take the chance.

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2block50(128 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

What a dog and pony show! Nobody is fooled by your theatrics. You blew it and you know it. And now you run for cover with this joke of an event. SB5 is toast.

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3youngstownsteve(84 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

“You have the three leaders of the state of Ohio sitting here, the [Senate] president, the speaker of the House and the governor of the state, and they won’t show up?” Kasich said. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my entire career. What is going on with people?”

Kasich, look back, remember when the people were locked out of OUR statehouse by you and these other clowns? We the people have never seen anything like your arrogance!
You are ruining our state by playing to the wealthy and big business at our expense.
Wonder why you have the lowest approval rating of all the governors in the country?
It's time for SB5 to go and then work on recalling you!

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4chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

I don't want a governor who is popular, who won't make a decision for days until polling is done, or who won't give us a written plan or be transparent. i want a leader who governs in the best interest of all the people not just those who benefit from collective bargaining and run up the collective bill. Kasich is strong and confident, Strickland was weak by bowing to the interests of his unionists.

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5jwhitehawke(110 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Now isn't the time for our Governor to talk to the SEIU and AFL. They will come to Kasich after the November election and SB5 passes. Private sector taxpayers aren't going to vote to continue subsidising the public sector employees as they are responsible for their OWN retirement. In addition, Ohio will have become fiscally responsible. The monies from the lease of the turnpike will go to repair Ohio infrastructure.......which means JOBS. Finally something that we, the people of Ohio need instead of food stamps and handouts. By election time, the few that don't 'get it', will become educated.

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6WarrenRicheyKid(169 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Kaisich and the Republican legislature are
scared. They blew it when they forced SB5 on the State. Now they see the consequences.

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7AtownAugie(873 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Poker is an even more cerebral game than chess.

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8timOthy(802 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Why didn't Kasich and the Republicans ask them to par-take in it in the beginning ? There's your answer !

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

The government workers unions will extract their pound of flesh from the taxpayers and taxes will go up to fill the trough . Austerity is only good for the little people and not the special ones .


If you want to understand better why so many states--from New York to Wisconsin to California--are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

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10grand4dad(217 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

chuck, the governor isn't 'stong and confident' by 'not bowing to the interests of the unionistas'. he is arrogant and weak and bows to the interests of the rich and his wall street cronies so they can keep getting richer at the expense of the middle class. let's overturn this ridiculous SB5.

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Overturning SB5 is all about raising taxes to keep the trough full . The government workers unions will extract their pound of flesh from the taxpayers and taxes will go up to fill the trough . Austerity is only good for the little people and not the special ones .


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12faith(200 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

So the GOP wants to take away collective bargaining, and the same folks they want to take it away from are invited to sit down and bargain? Is this for real?
The only reason is for attack adds against labor. Ka"sick" and his cronies will go down in flames and they will outspend unions 20-1. But UNION's have the people!! I will always stand with the people and not the $.

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13Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Repeal SB5 . Government Workers Unions say it's their money and they want it now ! Raising your taxes to pay them more is always good . Too bad you aren't getting any raises . ..


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14disgustedjoker(49 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Oh here we go! Everyone sees through your games, Kasich! Dont you remember your own saying when we TRIED to negotiate in the beginning? "Get on the bus or get run over by it". We knew you were just trying to look good in the public eye so you could point the finger at someone! Get a life and when you start the concessions at the top, maybe the grunt workers would be willing to talk!!!!

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15Wapiti(139 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Stan you're right I'm not getting any raises, but Kasich and his crew are. Did you forget about the raises he gave to those he appointed? It wasn't a union that did that it was this ONE TERM governor. Had kasich truly had the good of the people in mind, he would have talked to the Unions and the PEOPLE prior to signing SB5. Taxes will only go up to pay Kasich and his ilk. It's not the unions that OK any type of raise in a contract, it's those that own the companies or are in office that OK those raises in a contract.

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16Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

It doesn't take a brainiac to see who pays public sector union employees . If you guessed you and your tax dollars you guessed right . Have you gotten any raises ? SB5 evens the playing field by moderating public sector raises . If you want to pay more of your less and less through increased taxation then support the repeal of SB5 .


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17TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

This show put on by the governor and his allies was absolutely disgusting.

When SB5 was being debated, I was in Columbus and was literally LOCKED OUT of the statehouse...the house of the people.

He and Republican leaders were invited to speak as well to the groups making up We Are Ohio. They didn't approach the table then.

Hey Stan, the real problem isn't raising taxes...it' the wealthy who aren't paying their share. It's people like John Kasich who profit while people are losing homes and can't find jobs.

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18Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

TB :

"Hey Stan, the real problem isn't raising taxes..."

Not for the public sector unions it isn't . They gain far more than their increase in taxes . For the rest of us their hands reach into our pockets at a time when our wages are either stagnated or dropping . Why should we pay more to support their largesse ?

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19dancinmoses(68 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Ka'sick' had a poor dog & pony show. Do ya think he and his cronies are scared? They should be, because SB5 will be repealed. VOTE NO on SB5 and save our state. People forget that public employees pay taxes too, probably more than the rich creeps (Like Ka'sick') who DON'T pay their fair share of taxes. Start taxing the wealthy, why does the little guy have to pay more than their share? Down with this ONE TERM GOVERNOR! You Republicans blew it and you will lose in November. Vote NO on SB5. Then let's work on getting something in the constitution that can recall elected officials like Ka'sick'.

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20Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago


Former Governor Strickland, who severed the death sentence of Sidney Cornwell the baby killer from Youngstown , will not be forgotten .


Published: Mon, November 15, 2010 @ 7:40 p.m.GIRARD — The father, aunt and uncle of 3-year-old Jessica Ballew expressed outrage at Gov. Ted Strickland’s decision to grant clemency to her killer.

“He got away with murder,” Jessica’s aunt, Connie Ressler of Girard, said of Sidney Cornwell.

Ressler and Jessica’s father, Virgil Ballew of Girard, said they believe the governor would not have granted clemency if it was not for his political lame-duck status.

“Now, he has nobody to answer to,” Ballew said today.

“We can’t believe that he would stoop to that level and give clemency to someone who’s a baby-killer. I mean we’re outraged over it. It’s unbelievable that he took her death so lightly,” Ressler added.

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21300(573 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Way to stay on topic, Stan.

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22dancinmoses(68 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

We are talking about jobs, not baby killers, etc. This blog is about the corrupt, wall street governor that is destroying the working class of the state. This governor has NO respect for the working class, recall what he said to the Ohio State Patrol Trooper that stopped him for speeding.

He is a loser and will continue to lose at the rate he is going. Let's stand up for the working class, the poor and vote NO on SB5

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23Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Strickland was a big time loser . . ..

I am not excited about repealing SB5 and allowing costs to spiral with the result being increased taxation that will indeed impact the working man .



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24TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Stan can't stay on topic when confronted with a fact he can't deal with, so he spirals out of control.

He likes to ignore that bit about public employees being tax payers as well.

He likes to ignore concessions made.

He likes to ignore that this bill actually KILLS much needed jobs, without adding a single one.

He likes to ignore that, thusfar, we've not seen much,if any, job creation under Kasich.

He likes to ignore that the financial situation of the entire country during Strickland's term was in much more unstable territory.

Stan is the REAL big time loser.

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25Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

Support greater taxation and be a winner ? NOT ! Keep a lid on the spending which will result in no need for greater taxation . Let SB5 stand !



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26TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 9 months ago

You are a trip man. An absolute trip.

You ability to ignore facts and just spout of randomly is reminiscent of the sheep in Animal Farm. Keep it up and you could be head ram.

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