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Voters approve Boardman police levy



Published: Tue, August 2, 2011 @ 9:49 p.m.

BOARDMAN — Voters approved a 3.85-mill, five-year additional police levy by a margin of 1,043 votes — more than double the margin of the November defeat of the same measure.

The Mahoning County Board of Elections reported tonight that 4,655 residents voted for the levy compared to 3,612 voting against it. In November, voters rejected the same measure with 8,473 against and 8,043 for, a difference of 430 votes.

The levy will generate about $3.8 million annually designated for the police department and cost the owner of a home valued at $100,000 about $117 annually. Nearly 2,000 ballots were cast before today, most from mailed-in absentee ballots, said Thomas McCabe, elections board director. Of those ballots, 68.3 percent were for the police levy.

For the complete story, read Wednesday's Vindicator and Vindy.com


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1AnotherAverageCitizen(1175 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Looks like the PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.

Congrats to the BPD.

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2ytown1(392 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

We have also spoken, they had better keep their word on all hires and no raises of any sort until that is accomplished, we also have the right as a voter to vote down the previous 2.2 mil levy if these steps are not taken and any raises given out.

They bought this one to the tune of $50K, next time we can do it for free to vote them down. Remember you promised new money more officers less crime. you now have the first of those three, we will not let you get away with not fulfilling the other two promises like you did with the last levy.

We are watching, don't forget.

We also expect the crime stats to drop dramatically or that would be another reason to rescind the 2.2 levy along with this one.

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3VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Good News!... Good News!...

Voters APPROVED Boardman Police Levy.

All the whiners can go away or simply relocate and move. This is very very good for Boardman. Congratulations to Boardman Police Department---well deserved.

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4AtownAugie(717 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Gonna be kinda boring: With all the new cops, patrols, enforcement, crime prevention, sleuthing, etc., etc., the weekly "police blotter" for Boardman is only going to have barking dogs, a jaywalker or two, and an occasional loud muffler. Gonna miss the daily headline-of-horror in The Vindy -- courtesy of their relatives in the BPD -- now that the vote is over.

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5apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Very impressive, getting less than 15% of registered voters to sucker the remaining 85%.

Cancelling my Vindy subscription to pay for it.

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6VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Bye Bye Apollo!

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7Doctore(52 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Hey Bill... Looks like 15% of registered voters just told you to SUCK IT!!!

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8ytown1(392 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

And you all call us the whiny negative ones?

1) Doctore "Hey Bill... Looks like 15% of registered voters just told you to SUCK IT!!!

2) fd6636 "Good!!! All you whinney negitive people: DONT GO AWAY MAD, JUST GO AWAY!!

Real nice people, we have stated our displeasure of how the township is run fiscally, and these are the intelligent responses we get, even in defeat I stayed away from derogatory comments and name calling, but as you can see even in victory, the immature township employees cannot even act like adults?

Go figure why anybody would support them?

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9Doctore(52 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

That's why it's not directed at you "ytown". You didn't make it personal, he did.

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10joebag09(265 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

I can't, for the life of me, understand most of your mentalities? I didn't read about people NOT supporting Boardman or our police. We just want accountability and we haven't had it, PERIOD! Now that everyone has had their opportunity to vote....we will all sit back to watch, wait and listen.

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11Dogwatch13(2 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

When the voters really find out what BPD has been up too! They will wish they never voted for it. BPD should have cleaned up there act before they asked for the money. What they cover up is a crime period. Many folks in Boardman already know what it is!

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12repeaters(221 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

"TAXING PEOPLE BEYOND THEIR ABILITY TO PAY THAT TAX, DOES NOT MAKE A COMMUNITY BETTER." Look around at the communities with high taxes, their struggling to maintain something that's unatainable and quietly going broke trying to do so.In Liberty the taxes are 37% higher than the next highest community in Trumbull County. Does it look like the Liberty of old? Sorry Boardman, you ALL lost and you'll notice the difference in more empty homes and lower property values. For those that didn't show up at the polls, well, those are the ones that vote with their feet.

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13Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

The oppressed will find their shopping compromised and their automobile acquisition compromised in Boardman to a higher degree . This may put pressure on other resources in the area and force them to travel further in search of affluent donors .

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14Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Apollo! said " Cancelling my Vindy subscription to pay for it." WOW thought you were going to move PLEASE DO

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15CantStandYa(160 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

When does the hiring process start for the clerks and the dispatchers? And who do I have to be related to to get the position?

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16squigglyjams(11 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

OOHHH! Nothing like getting it in the backside by a township government who won't have the common decency to give you the reach around! A revolution is building. Boardman, you best use that money the way you said you would. We"ll be watching. Like a hawk!

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17republicanRick(1248 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Boardman is in a bind -- let crime flourish and more people will move to Canfield and Poland. Increase taxes (like Youngstown) and this will drive people to Canfield and Poland.

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182ndamendment(21 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

They wont use it like they said they will just watch. There a bunch of over payed cry babies.
Remember to buy guns and ammo because you will need them soon to protect your way of life from our government.

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19squigglyjams(11 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Buckle the ol' seat belts fellow Boardmanites! We're in for a bumpy ride!

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20apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

The real issue the township trough feeders have with me is I publish their little scams. Hiring practices, fiscal stupidity, illegalities, convicted cops, the truth about crime and fires, etc. The fact that most Boardmanites are too busy to be involved gets them the kind of worthless government they deserve.

I don't make it personal at all. Yet, their agents can make threats against me all the time.

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21apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Get ready for the township employees seeing money available and wanting it all for themselves. As for any job openings, if you don't have a connection, forget about applying and actually going through an interview process and legitimate decision based on education and experience. That never happens.

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22apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Drivel? Tell me what did I post that was false or personal? Provide examples.

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23crimelander(122 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

What's up with the Vindy the past two days?

No hoodlums from Youngstown committing crimes in Boardman? Guess that just all stopped, right?

Wrong.

I'd like to know where the crime stats are for 2010.

In 2008, Bman had a crime rate of 275.5.
In 2009, Bman had a crime rate of 252.5.

The national average is 319.2

From those two most recent years you see that crime is stable or near level. Hardly some insane crime wave going on.

I'd wager to say these numbers continued in 2010 and will in 2011. I doubt the index will exceed 300.

That said, Bman has 1.24 officers per 1,000 residents. Ohio average is 2.16 officers per 1,000.

I find it a shame (like usual) that a tiny voting minority forces the lazy majority to have to pay for these sort of hastily crafted ideas.

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24apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Enjoy the higher taxes. Crime won't change at all and Boardman's decline will accelerate with more empty properties and more foreclosures. Get ready for more wasteful spending. Maybe they can reopen the substation and start up CALEA again. Most of the concessions given by the employees will be reversed when the next contracts are negotiated. 2 years from now they'll be asking for more.

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25apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Heck crimelander, crime is DOWN IN YOUNGSTOWN!!!

Murders are down significantly in that bordering community that the Glen residents fear.

Selling fear is easy to those who really don't know the truth.

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26apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

The Vindy was only doing what they were told to do. Marketing is a great power tool.

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27crimelander(122 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Hey, I'll be the first to say that while "official" numbers are down, the numbers are cooked.

The only number that is remotely near accurate is murder/homicide because police always write up reports and document those (if they know about it).

But, the burglaries, thefts and even rapes are very underreported.

This is especially true in rough and tumble places like Youngstown's South Side where calling the police is akin to being a snitch and many crimes are never reported and many the PD refuses to file the paperwork on.

I heard some of the luxurious positions this levy was going to create. If Bman has crime issues or budding issues, then it requires more feet on beats, not more analysts and desk jockeys.

The areas bordering Youngstown certainly should be given attention and perhaps a sub station based on clear and present danger that wanders into Boardman.

The big cry baby issue beat to death in this very paper a month or more ago was those vile businesses with all their PD calls for shoplifting and similar offenses. If that use problem was correct (and I believe it was) then what does the BPD plan on doing to deal with being clogged by policing commerce interests? More manpower might help occasionally, but 10 officers even added new doesn't stretch very far.

There are 3 shifts per day or 21 per week. A normal work week is 5 shifts. That means they need 4 officers just to have a +1 headcount on patrol always. 8 officers should get +2 more officers on patrol always.

Will 2 more officers change the perceived issues and allow for more responsiveness? I don't think so.

We should never allow taxation issues to pass with such a minority voting. If an issue isn't voted on by 50.01% or more of the registered voting population then it should be unenforceable.

No question about it, some folks are going to move out of Boardman over the tax increases.

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28apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Boardman has been losing population for at least a decade. That will continue for those with the means to do so. Hey, even Boardman employees are getting out while the getting is good.

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29apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Also agree that any vote not getting at least a certain percentage of registered voters should be disallowed. 50% might be too high but 26% is a disgrace.

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30apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Nodice can't provide any because there isn't any. Everything I've posted is true and proven. The township is a train wreck run by the inept for the inept. More taxes will do nothing to prevent the crime that is just part of being a community with so many retailers and so close to Youngstown. How many of the new hires will have familiar names? Friends and family will be feeding from the trough soon.

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31Doctore(52 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Unless the vote goes your way, right Apollo? Then 26% would be sufficient. You sir are CLASSIC!

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32apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

At least I wouldn't have gotten on here and crowed about winning with less than 15% of the registered voters. The turnout was pathetic but of course that was the desire. That's why they had it in August. Just another example of the underhanded methodology of this corrupt township.

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33apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

There are no winners except the trough feeders when the community gets taxed at rates that will drive out more people and cause more empty houses and foreclosures. All so the Glen residents can feel safer when it will do no such thing.

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34apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Doctore, 26% is never sufficient for me win or lose. It's an embarrassment that voters are so willing to let 14.5% decide their future.

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35CantStandYa(160 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

It's an embarrassment that voters are so willing to let 14.5% decide their future.

This I agree with, and so should you all, no matter which side of the issue you are on...

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36apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Considering that there are a built in 1000 or more pro levy votes with employees and their families and friends, it's nearly impossible to fail a levy in August with 26% turnout. When the tax bills come out next February, people will be wondering why their taxes went up.

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37Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

trough feeders !!!! WOW nice talk .
OH !!!! that's right you do not call names . Can I send a truck over to help you move

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38ytown1(392 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

@nodice,
your quote to apollo, "He says everything he posts is proven and true, yet everything he posts is twisted, numbers inflated, or some other version of reality."

How is the numbers he has posted on his site, he directly received from the township, and ones that match the ones posted by the Vindicator, twisted or inflated?

These are documents right from the township? Sounds like to me you are the one twisting the truth?

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39ytown1(392 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Fisrs how can the numbers he has and the ones the vindicatoir be different? They came from the same source, same file format? As a matter of fact I just did a quick opening of both documents and they are the same exact file, nothing changed, your credibility is in question now. Acting like you do sometimes is not very productive either.

Check it out for your self: Vindy First
http://media3.vindy.com/news/document...

Boardman Facts second:
http://boardmanfacts.com/uploads/2010...

And you still stand behind the statement that he is making things up? Check out pages 88, 92, 96, or how about page 89 of the 09 wages, among others, I am sure you can agree that you are making it as personal as he is, and you should bring yourself above that and recognize that the facts are the facts and yes we will be watching very closely I assure you.

Also Is this new hire a veteran or a rookie? I did not see the article trumpeting this new hire showing off his credentials. How about supplying a name and or a link to verify this information you so strongly say is there?

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40apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

My information comes directly from the township. If the township is giving different versions to me and the Vindy that just goes to prove the corruption there. I don't inflate anything. Nichols made 141K last year. A fact. 3 other cops made over 100K, fact.

The trough feeders simply do not like their wages and benefits in the public domain and claiming I post untruths is all they have. They can't prove otherwise. If you don't like the numbers contact Loree, the person who I contact to get them.

The golden trough will flow freely once again thanks to 14.5% of registered voters who were fooled by Farris and the Glen people. Crime won't change at all and more cops won't effect anything.

That's OK, I already paid for it by cancelling my Vindy subscription. I suggest other voters also do the same.

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41apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Making it personal? I can show you emails and postings from the old Dems17 site that would make your toes curl. IP addresses included. There is a reason they didn't want to give me the internet usage reports. Because township employees were attacking me using taxpayer paid for computers.

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42candystriper(575 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Obviously... home ownership in Boardman leads to long term unemployment.

lol

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