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Betras, Munroe have war of words

Published: Tue, April 26, 2011 @ 12:10 a.m.


David Betras, Mahoning County Democratic Party chairman.


Mark Munroe, Mahoning County Republican Party Chairman.

By Karl Henkel



Mahoning County Democratic Party Chairman David Betras and his Republican counterpart, Mark Munroe, engaged in a war of words Monday, stemming from comments Munroe made last week about Senate Bill 5 referendum.

Betras snapped back at GOP chairman Munroe both verbally and in writing after Munroe said in a television interview the effort to repeal the bill represented “selfishness and greed.”

Betras, joined by members of other local unions, demanded Munroe retract his statement or resign from his position.

Not do be outdone, Munroe snapped back, calling Betras a liar for misquoting him in a letter. Munroe demanded that Betras apologize to him.

Betras’ letter said as many as 103 Mahoning County sheriff deputies are eligible for food stamps and public assistance, and questioned how Munroe could state “that they wanted to overturn [SB 5] because they are ‘lazy’ and ‘selfish.’”

“Dave Betras is a liar,” Munroe told The Vindicator. “I never said persons opposed to Senate Bill 5 are lazy.

“It seems very typical of the campaign the Democrats and the unions are running.”

Munroe clarified that he said the effort to repeal the bill was driven by “selfishness and greed” and could not understand why Betras misquoted him despite referencing the 21 WFMJ-TV video, which still is available online.

Betras also penned a letter to Gov. John Kasich asking him to request that Munroe apologize. In that letter, Betras used the terminology “greed and selfishness,” but later said Munroe called public workers “lazy.”


1author50(1121 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

How about a wrestlemania type event between these two chairpeople? The money raised from the event could go to the working poor of our government.

Referee: Jerry Springer.

Time Keeper: Louie Free

Collecting at the Gate: Mahoning County Probate Judge Mark Belinky

Caregiver for any injuries: David Venerose

Each round a different woman from both political parties will walk around the ring holding up a sign with the round written on the sign.

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2Millie(192 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Attorney Betras,
What purpose does your behavior serve? The voters will be able to make up their own mind about SB5 in November. Don't attorneys have any code of ethics for th remarks made that are lies?

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3Attis(1128 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Over 500 hard-working, tax-paying, public-serving citizens gathered in Niles last night to begin circulating petitions against this draconian union-busing law passed by selfish, greedy, prostituted politicos. We Are Ohio and We, The People will not allow fascism to rear its ugly head in America.

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4faith(200 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Munroe is a lier. He is a self serving fool. But thats OK, no one is perfect. SB5 will get on the ballot in November and we will see what the good people of Ohio say. My bet is that SB5 will be repealed, but our fascist governor will still push pieces of this garbage through in other bills. He is only doing what his wall st buddy's want, not what the good people of Ohio want.

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5Reader(126 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

I wish Betras would just go away already. He is a pot stirrer out for his own agenda. He is a self serving cheer leader who wants free publicity for his ambulance chasing law firm.

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6TAXEDOFF(118 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

If Betras wants an apology he should ask the REAL head of the Republican party....SONNY BIG BUCKS SMITH.

But of course someone would have to wake him up and remind him what century it is..

Monroe should stick to selling OVER PRICED copy machines.

Betras is trying hard to cast himself in the mold of old man Hanni....

So far so good a loud mouth, bullying, arrogant. skirt chasing, FOOL!!

A POX on both your houses!

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7piak(508 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Anybody ask what if SB 5 is defeated? What then?

Ohio's credit rating will certainly not be improved by that defeat...and it sure looks like it will go down lower. That means the Ohio won't be able to borrow money it can't afford to borrow anyhow, to pay for promises it can't keep, unless it pays a big interest rate. Sounds like a tax increase will be somewhere off in the distance.

All the while, the Democrat Party Tsar issues his ukases to the Chamber of Commerce (shudder, shudder, fear, fear) and his demand to the opposing party leader for an apology for something he didn't say. But if he had said it, it would have been the truth.

In the armed forces, there is a charge in the UCMJ called "behavior unbecoming an officer". Depending on the behavior's severity, it could lead to demotion of the guilty officer as a minimum. And worse if the severity is of higher level. Does the legal code of ethics have something to say about such behavior? Maybe it does. But the Bar Association is a tight knit fraternity which is reluctant to censure its own-unless there's a legal infraction. Being the Democratic Chair in a predominantly Democrat area will keep the Chairman safe.

But he ought to "put a lid" on it. Enough is enough!

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8oldmillspice(160 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

People hear only what they want to hear , many words are taken out of context. The opposition to SB5 shows the greed of those involved thinking only of themselves . The property taxes are very high in many areas of the Mahoning valley. You need a well paying job just to pay them. What about the people trying to survive on low wages ? As a union member for over 30+ years we started giving back 12 years ago by paying into our own health care and very small wage increases . One year we got a penny the next was a dime. Hell no I didnt like it , At least I continued to work . Do us all a favor take it now or pay for it later.

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9Cowboyfan(105 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

If SB5 is not defeated the tax base in this area will plummet. No extra money for the Police families, Firemen families, Corrections families, Teachers families, to spend in Ohio so taxes will have to go up. Teachers will move away and there will be more vacant houses we can't sell. Eventually blight will appear. You should be in an up roar about the companies who do not pay taxes.

Tri-County area might as well get ready to be a section 8 housing project.

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10republicanRick(1716 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Lower taxes will mean more disposable income for working families and retirees. Increased spending will mean more jobs and a higher standard of living for the working people in the valley.

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago



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12outsideobserver(31 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Both of these useless party chairs ought to resign. This Valley will never move forward with leaders like these guys who put up candidates like Carol Rimedio and Tracy Winbush.

Last year both chairs had the opportunity to put up and run qualified candidates for commissioner and auditor and both failed to the detriment of the entire community. Dolts for office! That should be their slogan the way they run things.

SB5 must go for everyone’s sake and then both parties need to take a serious look inside and find new leadership, are Monroe and Betras really the best we can do?

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13Cicero(39 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Betras is only the latest of a long line of embarrassments from the Mahoning Valley ( think Jimbo, Marc Dann, Jimmy Philomena, etc. etc). He wasn't able to deliver for the Dems last November and will similarly fail on the SB 5 campaign this fall. Apparently he did not even spell Munroe's name right in the press release and the letter. Why is the Vindy giving this noise maker any coverage. He absolutely feeds on it . Take away his sustenance -PLEASE!

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14NoBS(2758 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

Out of the previous TWENTY ONE posts, only geromajor and outsideobserver get it. The rest of you are just bleating your party line, like good little robots.

BOTH Betras and Monroe are embarrassments. Monroe yaps about Betras talking in Democrat talking points (what else would the Dem chairman use?) and rolls right into the Republican talking points. Apparently none of the self-styled teabaggers here noticed, because they were reading what they wanted to read.

Betras says Monroe claimed anyone who wants to repeal SB 5 is greedy, selfish and lazy, and Monroe gets all worked up and says, "Hey, I never said they're lazy!" So calling people greedy and selfish is acceptable for a "leader" but calling them lazy isn't? Get outta here.

Outsideobserver said it perfectly - are those two really the best we can do?

You man now return to your routine spouting of YOUR party talking points, and ignoring all others.

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