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Rally draws teachers, YSU students, faculty



Published: Tue, April 19, 2011 @ 12:07 a.m.

By Denise Dick

denise_dick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Teachers, Youngstown State University students, faculty and staff and other opponents of Senate Bill 5 stomped their feet, brandished signs and chanted, “Kill the Bill.”

The Rally for Education and Community, organized by the YSU chapter of Students for Social Justice and other students, drew a couple of hundred people Monday to YSU’s Beeghly Center.

Molly Toth, a YSU senior, emceed the rally, telling those who attended that she’s glad they came.

“But the fact remains that we shouldn’t have to be doing this,” she said. “This battle has already been fought.”

She called SB 5, a bill signed by Gov. John Kasich that will strip public employees of some collective-bargaining rights, an attack on basic and fundamental rights.

“What do we want to do? We want to kill the bill,” Toth said.

Members of the crowd repeated that rallying cry and showed signs that read, “Stop the War on Workers,” “Educators Against SB 5” and “Save Collective Bargaining in Ohio.”

Molly Rogers, a YSU sophomore majoring in special education, talked about how the law casts a cloud over her future career.

A teacher’s positive attitude is part of what allows children to learn, she said.

“How can a person have a positive attitude if they know their job is always at risk?” Rogers said.

Julia Gergits, president of the union that represents YSU faculty, said that under SB 5, university faculty would become managers.

“We would no longer be unionized if this bill is implemented — boom — just like that,” she said.

Kasich’s proposed budget also negatively affects employees and the middle class, Gergits said.

“Not only do we have to kill the bill, we have to take back Ohio,” she said.

Gary Davenport, a YSU senior and vice president for university affairs, Student Government Association, and one of the rally’s organizers, agreed.

“The first thing we have to do is to kill this bill,” he said. “The next thing is to get ready for three more years of this.”

State Sen. Joe Schiavoni of Canfield, D-33rd, said SB 5 will affect people who work in the private sector as well. As public employees’ pay is cut, they have less money to buy cars or to go out to dinner, he said.

Rally speakers urged attendees to get involved in the referendum petition to repeal the legislation.

Dan Buckler, a YSU graduate student, started Students for Social Justice this semester after noting a lack of political activism and scant social activism on campus.

“It was a hole that needed to be filled,” he said.

The group promotes equality and justice, calling for lower tuition, and also supports workers.

“Workers should have a voice in their places of employment,” Buckler said.


Comments

1Brit(18 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

REALITY CHECK!!!
This isn't the 60s or 70's anymore. Kids nowadays many times take guns and knives to school. They are a threat to teachers and it is not unusual to see in the news about kids killing and threatening classmates, teachers, principals, even their own parents! People think teachers don't deserve what they have gone to college and worked hard to earn?

Try being a teacher and you have to babysit 20-30 kids for eight hours a day, 5 days straight and on top of it you have to teach them, prepare lesson plans, keep grade books, have conferences, make bulletin boards, organize the room, grade papers, meet with parents, write notes to parents, prepare tests, run off copies of teaching tools, deal with kids that are trouble and deal with parents who are in some cases as immature and delinquent as their kids, and far more!!!!! These teachers work before school, after kids go home, and at nights and on weekends on school related stuff. I know! I am married to a teacher. The pressure is unbelievable what they go through. They don't have enough time in the day. They work 60 hour weeks if you include what they do at home for school. They use their own money to buy kids supplies without reimbursement. Many parents won't buy their own kids supplies. Teachers pay huge amounts out of their pay check for health care. Teachers are invested with one of the most important jobs in our country and they are over worked, under paid, under appreciated and vilified by ignorant people who obviously need an education of their own. These people have gone to college and are "professionals". You know what the lowest paying professional job is for college grads? Teachers rank second behind social workers. They deserve respect and support not foolish attacks. If not for teachers there would be more ignorance and it is education that creates success for people and our country. Education and teachers should be supported! The alternative is ignorance.
Teachers deserve far more pay, credit, and benefits than they have.

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2Brit(18 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Unions protect American workers and the insurance companies are high on the list to fight since they are among the worst abusers of Americans. When there is good pay it attracts the best of people and those with higher pay also pay higher taxes which gives the state more money. People don't seem to realize that bills like this will drive out the best teachers, firemen and police to other states and this will not only get rid of huge amounts of good people. It will create shortages of workers, which will result in crowded classrooms, lower educational quality, more property loss because of shortage of fireman and more crime because of shortage or police. They will leave the state. You will get what you pay for. It will also bring in less money to the state because of job loss and lower wages will create less tax money. Think about it. This bill isn't about making more money for the state. It is about gaining power for the rich.

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3republicanRick(1254 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Ahh, the innocence of youth and Mr. Buckley. He wants lower tuition and he supports the YSU workers. Money may be growing on trees around Kilcawley and Mr. Buckley should look there to support his conflicting views. His organization supports equality and justice....women now earn 8% more than men, on average, so good luck with that too.

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4Richmond(15 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

@Brit
I respect your situation and agree that a teacher’s job is crappy. But it is no surprise that the job is crappy, everybody knows this already. Why not blame your husband for picking such a terrible profession, if indeed it is such a terrible profession? Did someone force him or other teachers to become teachers? I know that some will say they are following their dreams, but dreams don't pay the bills or dilute reality. Almost every teacher I know became a teacher for the schedule, clearly not considering the negative aspects of the job. Don't believe me; listen to teachers as they rub it in for the 3 months they get off in the summer or the long breaks they get for holidays etc.... Don't blame our supposed apathy for the situation of teachers on us, the public; blame their choices to join a profession, that they knew sucked, for the wrong reasons. Also, isn't pretty much everything a teacher has predicated on what their leadership instructed them to do? Seriously, if he wanted to work with a specific type of kid he should have started a daycare where he could choose his own clients. At $3/hour per kid 8 hours a day for let's say 8 kids. That totals $24/hour, $960 week, $3840/month for a total of over approx $46K annually. There are other choices out there. Trying to make us feel bad for those who regret their career decisions is not a great way to sell those of us on the SB5 fence, to see things your way. Also those like Schiavone have to quit making their non-union constituents feel like second class citizens.

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5Cowboyfan(105 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Sorry we decided to career in Law Enforcement and Fire Safety. You better go get a big hose and put out your own fires.

This is not just about the teachers. It is about Fire, Police, Corrections, Nurses, Child Services and the list goes on.

51,000 jobs will be lost with SB5

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6Cowboyfan(105 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

(correction) have a career

GROUP SAYS KASICH BUDGET WILL PUT AT LEAST
51,000 OUT OF WORK
Volume #80, Report #67, Article #5--Thursday, April 7, 2011
A new think tank with ties to former Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland said Thursday that
Republican Gov. John Kasich's "Jobs Budget" would add at least 51,000 Ohioans to the
unemployment rolls.
Innovation Ohio spokesman Dale Butland said proposed cuts to education, state and local
governments in the $55.5 billion two-year spending plan (HB 153 ) would endanger the state's
shaky economic recovery and easily wipe out the 22,000 new jobs created since Gov. Kasich took
office.
"You can't fix Ohio by attacking workers either through a job-killing budget or extremist legislation
like Senate Bill 5," he said, referring to a recently signed measure to restrict collective bargaining
(SB 5 ) during a news conference at the group's Columbus office. "Gov. Kasich, your war on
workers will only result in killing the middle class."
Kasich spokesman Rob Nichols dismissed the group's analysis as "political posturing."
"These people are former Strickland staffers seeking to preserve the legacy of their former boss," he
said. "They think the only way to solve Ohio's budget problems is to raise taxes. We can't do that
and expect to see any job creation at all. It will kill jobs, kill this state and Governor Kasich will not
do it."
Innovation Ohio estimated that $1.82 billion in cuts to K-12 education would result in about 30,000
layoffs to teachers and support staff and a $202 reduction for higher education would cause nearly
600 professors to lose their jobs, along with more than 1,500 other staff.
Cuts of $1.23 billion to local government will mean nearly 13,900 fewer employees, along with
another 4,200 layoffs in public safety forces, the group said. A $306 million decrease for state
personnel line items means 5,800 fewer state workers.
President and CEO Janetta King, a former aide to Gov. Strickland, said Innovation Ohio's analysis
assumed 75% of the dollar value of proposed cuts would result in salary reductions because staffing
is the largest expense in the education and government sectors. Cuts in state personnel line items
result in 100% staff reductions.
The group's projections don't account for additional layoffs in other areas of the budget, such as
nursing homes facing lower Medicaid reimbursements, or indirect job loss that would result from
reduced economic activity, she said.
Mr. Butland said the governor should consider ways to raise revenue, such as by closing "tax
loopholes," to avoid such massive layoffs.
"By stubbornly insisting that an $8 billion deficit must be closed through cuts and one-time money
alone, Gov. Kasich is intentionally pursuing a policy that will cost tens of thousands of Ohioans their
jobs," he said.
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7Miki(99 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

So this was a pep rally for themselves? Serves no purpose but to get a tag line in the paper.

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8Alexinytown(246 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Did anyone actually go to this rally? I just want to point out that there was maybe 100 people there in total.

This story happens to leave out that particular detail.

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9JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

"A new think tank with ties to former Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland said Thursday..."

Ah, that wouldn't be biased would it.

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10Philo(99 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

The dirty little secret is that there is a GLUT of teachers in this Valley and in this state. There is no teacher shortage at any level. Let those teachers who have it so bad and work so hard quit, and come into the private sector where we all have it so easy. For every teacher, fireman, or policeman who quits there will be 15 highly qualified individuals lined up to take their place and at less cost to the taxpayers. The free ride is over and once the television commercials start airing and taxpayers learn about some of the atrocities that have been perpetrated by public sector workers, Senate Bill 5 will never be overturned. God bless Governor Kasich. Finally, someone is sticking up for my widowed mother whose real estate taxes are now higher that her house payment was!

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11Richmond(15 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

OK, so we Kill the Bill and take back Ohio. What is the next step to fixing this disaster? Does killing the bill automatically eliminate the unhappiness with your choice of careers? I support, commend, and infinitely appreciate the jobs of our safety forces, but we should not be sold to make our decision based on your unhappiness in a career choice. You folks are unhappy with jobs in their current states, why would I want to support the current system if it’s something that makes you so miserable? I still haven't heard a good argument from either side on this issue. My question ultimately is: Cuts- then what? Kill the Bill- then what?

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