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Public employees serve taxpayers



Published: Tue, April 12, 2011 @ 12:00 a.m.

Public employees serve taxpayers

Your April 1 article, “10 things to know about SB5” by Marc Kovac, was truly an April Fool’s day joke. But we tax-paying property owners are not the fools you think we are. Your article included comments from 16 contributors and only one, from Buffalo, N.Y. (the only non-local resident), was for SB5.

Lori Langley, a 20-year Boardman Township employee, said the township administration and the six unions representing the township employees have always been able to come to an agreement. Yes, but in whose favor? Certainly not in the taxpayer’s interest. When a public sector employee union negotiates, any benefits will ultimately end up in the public sector employee’s wages and benefits. So who is representing me, the taxpayer, absent from these negotiations?

Jennifer Walker, a teacher, says “I really feel teachers did not create the financial mess we’re in.” If not the people who were paid with tax revenue, then who did? Was it because the taxpayer did not pay his fair share or enough? How much is enough?

Do you know what I think is fair? Public employees pay 50 percent of their pension and health care premiums, and the taxpayers pay 50 percent — not the 85 and 90 percent currently paid. All vacation time, overtime, accumulated sick and personal days, and holidays prior to Jan. 1, 2011, canceled and history. Use it or lose it. Now that’s fairness.

Frank Greggo, Boardman

Campbell suffers a deep loss

On April 5, Campbell Memori- al High School lost a great teacher, “Mickey” Sorka.

I am sure we all wish when we depart this life that we leave behind a legacy that will be remembered. Mickey did that.

The shock and sorrow at his passing reverberates in everyone you meet in this small community. He touched so many lives in so many ways it is almost beyond comprehension. We are all better off for having known him.

Mary Zetts, Campbell


Comments

1howardinyoungstown(591 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

100% publicly funded state and federal elections, is the only way to give the power back to the voters and get it out of the hands of special interest groups.

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2FrankRizzo(5 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Frank Greggo,
What percentage of your health care do you contribute? Do you accumulate any paid time off? Unfortunately, you do not realize that a teacher's salary could not have been what bankrupt the State of Ohio. If it was, I should sure be living in a nicer house, driving a nicer car, and having a much bigger bank account. Do you realize a starting teacher's current salary with a family of four qualifies his or her kids for reduced lunch fees under government guidelines? Probably not. But keep on complaining, bitter man. You will get yours. Actually, when no one will be a teacher in Ohio, we all will.

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3JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

"Do you realize a starting teacher's current salary with a family of four qualifies his or her kids for reduced lunch fees under government guidelines? Probably not."

Do you realize that in Boardman for example, a first year teacher can increase his/her salary by approximately 34% within 5 years, and much more beyond that? Probably not. Their salaries start small, but grow exponentially. And that doesn't include the frivolous benefits.

http://ohiocasb.org/about/school-sala...

Average, the non-union public employees are also out of control. Former Youngstown City Schools Superintendent Wendy Webb received a serverence of $111,000, which 30% of that amount was from unused sick days:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/feb/16...

BTW, a portion of the public union employees paid income tax's are getting returned to them in the form of benefits, unlike private sector tax paying employees.

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4Woody(452 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

"Do you realize a starting teacher's current salary with a family of four qualifies his or her kids for reduced lunch fees under government guidelines? Probably not."

I would make a bet that a majority of STARTING teachers do not have a family of 4. Most are just out of school and single.

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5apollo(1227 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Boardman employee wages and benefits are as overly generous as anyone in Ohio. The audit said so to the tune of 20%. Cops averaging 90,000 plus outrageous perks and benefits. Fire and road making far more than peer communities. The trustees and administrations have been in bed with the unions in Boardman extracting the inheritance windfalls into the contracts. Now Boardman is stuck with a financial structure based on one time revenues. Time to force them to take concessions. Real concessions, not these bogus wage freezes that doesn't even really freeze their wages since step increases are part of those cushy contracts. Taxpayers have been getting the shaft. The time has come to level the playing field. SB5 should help that process.

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6unhappyvoter1(87 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

jme who are u trying to fool?

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7cambridge(3031 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

JME spends his day fooling his boss who thinks he is working but actually spends his day commenting on the Vindy that other people are overpaid.

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8300(562 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

I think that's the general consensus here in the Valley, particularly among the right-wingers. "Everyone's overpaid and leaching off the government except me."

I'm not sure JME and Jesse did/do for a living, but it must feel good to be part of that 1% who are actually deserving of every penny they made/make.

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9JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

And Flip-flop, I mean Cambridge fills us with opinions and no facts.
He's knows when he's beat when he starts with the democrat-socialist name calling, changes the subject (above post) or he stops replying and starts to hide.

Lets see some facts instead of opinions flip-flop, unhappyvoter, and 300. Oh, that's right, you can't provide any.

I think Japan's radiation as started to affect the thinking of the socialists on the west coast.

Flip-flop, you can cut-and-paste your top 3% rant now.

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10JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

"I think the PUBLIC UNION make up a smal percentage of the entire workforce."

Average, does that mean they don't represent the middle class workforce since it represents such small %?

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11candystriper(575 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

If Tampa Bay has 70% of its poor population living in the suburbs just think what Boardman has.

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12dmacker(287 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

I'm not against the fire department or police department or the teachers making a fair wage.
However, it doesn't seem fair to me that when so many people are out of work and most others are forced to do with less, they are begging for a bigger share of the public pie. It's simple, when the pie gets smaller, the slices get smaller not bigger.
Those that are in public service for the money just may lack the proper motivation.

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13hiker27(18 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

I see aproxmatly 17% of workers are union. Of that 17% how many hire union carpenters, roofers or landscapers to do the work around the house or shop at union stores. I'll bet only a few. But as long as our goverment continues to deduct the unoin dues from their checks, they will remain union. If they had to do it on their own, it would not be 17% Again, the only unions I look up to is the trade unions who have to be the best or "not at all"

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142muchtax(346 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

i typed in a struthers teacher with 3yrs experience and she was at 49000 they move up really fast and every year they get an automatic pay raise. Goto www.buckeyeinstitute.org and take a look at the pensions and never a missed raise when things are bad. Pensions of 50000 plus is common

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15Informant4U(7 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Frank Greggo

I'm so sick of the non-public employees boo-hooing about what public employees get. I can assure you a private sector banking investment officer makes twice as much as what a teacher, police officer, or fireman makes. Part of your problem is you don't have accurate information. You also seem to be so bitter at life that you have nothing better to do but attack public employees; the very people who probably teach your kid right how to think about every situation from all angles (which you obviously didn't teach him/her); the very people who might drag your butt out of a burning building or totaled car and save your life.....and you want to be a petty five-year old who wants to cut off your nose to spite your face? Self-centered much?

YOU are the type of person who has no clue and thinks the world owes him! Public employees deserve everything they get for arrogant, misinformed idiots like you whom they have to deal with each and every day!

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