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Ohioans could force recall elections



Published: Thu, April 7, 2011 @ 12:03 a.m.

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Rep. Robert F. Hagan, D-Youngstown. (AP Photo/Larry Phillips)

By Marc Kovac

news@vindy.com

COLUMBUS

Ohioans would be able to force recall elections for Gov. John Kasich and other state officeholders, under legislation being introduced by two Democrats in the Ohio House.

Reps. Bob Hagan, of Youngstown, D-60th, and Mike Foley, from Cleveland, said the bill was prompted by the recent passage of controversial collective-bargaining reform and low approval ratings for the governor.

“This has a lot to do with this governor,” Hagan told reporters during a press conference at the Statehouse on Wednesday. “We think that he is relying on bad advice and what he thinks is working is not working. He’s dividing the state. He’s hurting the people of this state.”

Foley added, “[Some] folks are upset with the direction of the state and they’re upset with the direction of the governor. ... They’re upset with the budget that was introduced two weeks ago. And they feel like three months into the term of the new General Assembly and the governor, they’ve got no recourse.”

The state constitution already allows for the impeachment or removal of state officeholders “upon complaint... for any misconduct involving moral turpitude or for other cause provided by law.”

But there are no provisions in the constitution or state law outlining a process to enable voters to recall state elected officials.

The bill being proposed by Hagan and Foley would require opponents to file petitions containing signatures equal to or greater than 15 percent of the turnout in the most recent general election when governor or legislative candidates appeared on the ballot.

The recall would take place during the next scheduled regular election or during a special election date set by the secretary of state.

The resulting election would ask voters whether an officerholder should be recalled and, if so, which candidate should serve in their place.

The legislation would cover the governor and the five other statewide elected offices and state lawmakers but not Supreme Court justices. Close to 20 other states have comparable statewide recall provisions already in place.

The legislation isn’t expected to gain approval of the Republican-controlled House or Senate, however. And Gov. John Kasich isn’t supporting the move.

“There’s a lot of politics going on,” the governor said Wednesday, in response to a question about the recall legislation. “My whole purpose is to fix this state. And when you take a look at what we did over ... the last 90 days, it’s pretty remarkable.”

Lots of changes from JobsOhio to the common sense initiative to public-private partnerships, closing an $8 billion structural deficit. That’s where my focus is. I don’t pay a lot of attention to the other political things that go on.”



• April 6 Hagan and Foley on Recall Elections
Democratic state Reps. Bob Hagan, from Youngstown, and Mike Foley, from Cleveland, announce plans to introduce legislation that would allow Ohio voters to recall the governor, state lawmakers and other statewide office-holders.



• April 6 Hagan and Foley Q and A Part 1
Democratic state Reps. Bob Hagan, from Youngstown, and Mike Foley, from Cleveland, announce plans to introduce legislation that would allow Ohio voters to recall the governor, state lawmakers and other statewide office-holders.



• April 6 Hagan and Foley Q and A Part 2
Democratic state Reps. Bob Hagan, from Youngstown, and Mike Foley, from Cleveland, announce plans to introduce legislation that would allow Ohio voters to recall the governor, state lawmakers and other statewide office-holders.



• April 6 Kasich Gaggle
Ohio Gov. John Kasich answers reporters' questions about legislation that would allow recalls of statewide office-holders, Senate Bill 5, the federal budget and NCAA basketball tournament.


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1ytown1(392 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Can we recall these two clowns, if not at least Hagan. What has he done lately other than rant and yell obscenities to his constituents that are starting to understand what actually a backdoor deal is when it comes to the Unions. The cat is out of the bag Bob, get over yourself and find a calculator that works so you can keep up with the rest of us.

Go to http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/teach... and do some of your own research why SB5 is so dearly needed. We are broke Bob.

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2RightofLeft(41 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

This will once again make Ohio the laughingstock of the rust belt. Hagan is an embarrassment every time he starts on one of his diatribes. He wants to make the State of Ohio just like the City of Newton Falls where they have a recall election everytime someone doesn't like another someone. The only bill that makes sense is one that allows the recall of Hagan only.

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3timOthy(802 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Where do I sign ?? This guy is a total Buffoon ! Bringing people from Calif. when it wasn't legal so (HE) created another position to accommodate Kammve. In 90 days what has this fruit and nut guy done ? Nothing ! As far as who will replace the Governor. Have a special election for both parties without a lengthy notice. Maybe we'll get someone good !

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4Iwannamove(61 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

you and me both Timothy I would love to sign because I never voted our buffoon govenor in

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5cathylukasko(116 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Keep up the good work, Governor. Ohio is on its way back. Unlike IL, which raised its taxes 66%, Ask Caterpillar Corp., which is headquartered there and wants to leave the state. Let's welcome them to OHIO!

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6hmm(179 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

putting aside .the fact this legislation is being introduced due to SB5 and the fact those individuals voting for SB5 are going to be 1 term electors. The bottom line is, States SHOULD have a method to recall an official. What I will say is elected officials work FOR the citizens of Ohio not the other way around ,personally I don't give a "sheet " if the republican senate and house Or the governor aren't for the idea IF you don't do anything wrong there's nothing to worry about...................... I'll bet if the roles were reversed their battle cry would be MORE POWER to the TAX PAYERS who pay their wages sorry sometime taxpayers have to say " your fired!!". .

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7palbubba(664 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

It is amazing that Hagan has nothing better to work on than failed policy with no chance to pass it. For all you party blind posters, you complain that the governor hasn't done enough in 3 MONTHS. How about unemployment going down? While your savior after over 2 years can't get unemployment down to where it was when he took office. In case you are as dull as Hagan savior refers to Barrack Bin Ladin Obama.

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8Photoman(1000 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Well, applying the Hagan logic to national politics, looks like Obama, too, has to go. Let's see if Mr. Hagan agrees with that one. My guess is that he'd just stay with the same old party line--if you're not demo, you're gonno--forget what the people voted for.

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9JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

You would think Buckwheat would be spending time working on the approval of video lottery terminals for his horse track in Austintown.

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10Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

TIME FOR A CHANGE ?

READY TO REPLACE KASICH !

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11LieDetector(27 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Amazing!!! 30 plus years of democratic rule in this state and in our area...has produced the conditions we have now. Yet you spineless, misinformed boobs still pull that lever for the dems. Less than 3 months of a republican gov...your blaming him for everything!!!. Mr Hagen is an arogant, incompetent politician wanna be, who sows division and discontent every chance he gets to drive a wedge between the voters for personal gain and his voracious hunger for power. He has done nothing for this state or area reguarless of his dilusions of granduer. He is an embarrasment to the area, his party and to his family. It is him that should be recalled...or investigated. Yes Bob ...it was you and your arrogance that baited that kid in that resturant....i was there....and yes Bob ..you did meet with those guys for the casino thing....but youre such a chronic liar that i guess its ok as long as most people buy If you care about the people of this area....step down for our sakes.

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12Fattkidd(45 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Sorry Li(ar)... you don't get to make up history. Republicans have controlled the Governors office since 1975 for all but 12 yrs... two terms (8yrs) in early '80s under Celeste and 1 term under Strickland (4). Republicans have controlled the State Senate pretty much since 1984. And, they've controlled the House since 1994 with the exception of two yrs during Strickland's term (with a very narrow Dem majority).

The Republicans have pretty much controlled the state since the late '80s. So, how is it again that the Dems have run this state into the ground? Did you ever stop to think that since the Valley continues to vote Dem, maybe they have been getting punished by the GOP controlled State?

Nooooooo! Wouldn't be any politics involved there, eh? LOL! Sucker!

Keep voting for the GOP that is hell-bent on eliminating every social safety net this country has... which created a middle class in this country, btw... and of which I am SURE you and/or your friends and family depend on every day... and see how it turns out for ya!

All the while ELIMINATING corporate income tax, slashing income tax rate for ONLY the top 2%, and ELIMINATING the Estate tax!

Of course, to make up the loss of revenue, they have to RAISE your taxes... sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, fees for tags and services, and cuts or elimination of services.

In other words, keep voting for Republicans and watch your standard of living continue to decline.

Did y'all catch the GOPs plan for creating jobs? It's a nice one... cut enough gov't service, slash public employee pay, eliminate public employee jobs and flood the job market with desparate, but highly-skilled workers, which will LOWER the wages for EVERYONE and thus lower labor costs for the private sector and (hopefully) spur job creation!

You couldn't make this crap up! LOL!

Here's the link in case you don't believe me:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/01/opi...

So, go ahead and vote yourself a pay-cut, loss of health insurance and pension so that the fat-cats can continue to pay no tax and in fact, receive billions in gov't subsidies! YEAH!

Suckers.

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13OhioAtty666(19 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Lie Detector, you are an unlettered fool, and should refrain from future commentary until you learn how to write and spell. If you can't tell the difference between your and you're, or there, their and they're. don't bother writing to the Vindy. Your semi-educated status is typical of products of Ohio's state education policy since the days of James Rhodes. In addition to the your/you're gaffe, you also are deficient in these regards: Arrogant has two r's, regardless has no 'u', grandeur is not the same as granduer, you should be full of embarrassment to use only one 's' in that word, and resturant has an 'a' in the middle.

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14Fattkidd(45 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

It's the 'Mellon Doctrine' all over again!

“Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate.”

All except the stocks part, that is! Wouldn't want the fat-cats to take a hit now, would we? Even though Wall St. destroyed the economy and 8million jobs along with it, couldn't dare THINK of having them pay a price to repair it!

Nooooo.... they get $17TRILLION of taxpayer money to keep themselves afloat, speculate on stocks and commodties and basically run up the cost of food, fuel and raw materials for the rest of us!

Can you say, 'Taxation By Speculation!'???

And, you anti-American, Anti-Union, Anti-Worker stooges think that teachers are bringing the country down!? HOLY MOLY are you people misinformed!

Wall St. gets a $17TRILLION no-questions-asked HANDOUT and they/you have the GALL to call working folks 'socialist' for wanting to receive benefits THEY'VE PAID FOR their entire working career!?

Only in America, I guess!

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15Rockabilly(93 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Dump Kasich!

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16Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

The grip of the libs on The Valley has gotten us decay, corruption and plenty of crime . New industry has to be lured to The Valley and quickly . The only young that aren't moving away are in the career criminal families . Very few others can find a job . Upping the welfare rolls isn't giving us prosperity nor peace .

READY TO DISPLACE KASICH AND KEEP THE STATUS QUO IN COLUMBUS !

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17kriv(2 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

While Stan makes a compelling argument, what with his profile picture of Hulk Hogan, grammatical belief that you're supposed to hit the spacebar before ending a sentence with punctuation, and posting a link to a picture of himself, one must also remember that this is not an article of opinion but an article of fact. Hagan and Foley are taking 100% legal and acceptable action to oust a man that they believe is causing danger to our state by limiting the rights of workers.

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18commoncitizen(961 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

Fattkid,
Stan has a good pic of you in post # 10.

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19commoncitizen(961 comments)posted 3 years, 4 months ago

let's hope Hagen gets this passed, we can recall him FIRST!!!

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