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Gangs of females attack lone women, 2 children



Published: Wed, September 15, 2010 @ 12:02 a.m.

By John W. Goodwin Jr.

jgoodwin@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Police are investigating two fights involving groups of females that have required several people to seek medical attention, including two children.

A 21-year-old Eastway Drive woman told police she was walking toward her apartment just after 5 p.m. Monday when she was approached by a man, who told her his sister and a group of females were coming to her home to beat her up. The man grabbed the woman’s cell phone and ran off — leaving her unable to call police.

The woman told police officers that she went home and heard a knock at her door a short time later. The woman said her 4-year-old son opened the door, and 15 females ran into the apartment and began beating her.

The woman told officers the group stepped on her 1-year-old son while continuing to beat her. She said she picked up her 4-year-old son and ran to a bedroom, but the group of women chased her — continuing the beating and hitting the 4-year-old several times.

Police reports say a neighbor who heard the commotion was able to get into the apartment and remove the two children while the fight continued.

The woman told officers the group of women eventually stopped beating her and then began stealing items from her apartment. She said the women ran off with a DVD player, movies, shoes for her kids and two purses.

An apartment manager at the complex told police she saw one of the women leaving the apartment carrying a DVD player and tried to confront the woman but was threatened with violence.

Police said the assaulted woman could hardly speak because of swollen lips and bleeding. Police also noted two bruises to the head of the 4-year-old child.

A family member took the woman and children to the hospital.

A 40-year-old West Evergreen woman told police she also was the victim of a beating when three women came to her home Monday afternoon and began beating her in the face and body with 2-by-4-inch boards. The woman said she was able to run to her front porch and call 911, but she believes the trio of women were trying to kill her.

The woman was treated by ambulance personnel for injuries to her face and was told to seek further treatment at a hospital.

Witnesses told police the fight stemmed from a verbal altercation the night before between the assaulted woman’s boyfriend and one of the women carrying the boards.


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1Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Nothing but animals.

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2dburkey(19 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

What a shame...those unfortunate children caught up in adults...er...a bunch *acting* like children...being so violent!
In the first story, not 1 of 15 could say this isn't right?? Where's your freakin' compassion?
The second...over words? Unbelieveable.

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3sanmorel(3 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Incomprehensible. I hope they find each one of those females and charge them with burglery, child abuse, felony assault, criminal michief, disorderly conduct, breaking and entering and child endagerment! Can't think of anymore...but that should hold them over for a long time!!!!

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4fcb(318 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

It's a shame, but those children will grow up and be the attackers soon. It's just a way of life.No morals,no careing of others, get what you can get and it doesn't matter from who. Mr. Bill Cosby is right,the parents have to start the change for this way of life. Don't know how to read but walk around with $200 dollar sneakers on. I feel sorry for the children because it's not their fault,but soon they will be the parents and it will be the same all over again.

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5snworb56(51 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

No one south of Shields road is surprised!

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6VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Apparently, those in the neighborhood felt the attacks were warranted. Great neighborhood.

Let me think now...were not those neighborhoods created by the government for the benefit of the poor and homeless? And were not those neighborhoods created to offer a better and safer place to live? Do not these neighborhoods contribute the most crime in our cities? Oh, and are not these neighborhoods being paid for by our tax dollar? Money is taken from your weekly, bi-weekly or monthly paycheck to support these neighborhoods and all those living in them.

Your kids need shoes or money for school? Sorry, but we first need to pay for other peoples' children, who continue to have babies because they cannot, or will not stop.

You have to learn to be more compassionate, be not a trouble maker and set an example for your children. Apparently, those rules do not apply to those in the other communites.

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7Handala(38 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Unholy shades of Rwanda, doesn't ANY of these mothers have names!?Hmm?

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8mrblue(965 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

These animals need to be in a cage. Find them, arrest them, and put them in a cage like the animals they are! Also, if they are living on government money, take it away! I feel for the children who were caught up in this mess.

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9Rokscout(310 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

21 with a 4 and 1 year old? Mobs attacking people? No jobs, education, or even slightest desire to have either? I think it's high time to start fixing things around here. Let's start by cutting off free money, then shutting down reproductive systems until a certain age.

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10Woody(451 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Don't insult the animals.

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11walter_sobchak(1831 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

What if the beating "victim" was a crack dealer and the 15 other women were just trying to clean up their neighborhood? Don't know, but I'm just supposing. Except for the two toddlers, no one is innocent here. This just appears to be gang justice. There's got to be more to the story.

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12Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Who are we to judge how they live ? As long as they feel good doing their thing that's all that counts .

YOUNGSTOWN SUBCULTURE ROCKS THE CITY !

http://i53.tinypic.com/33x7ntj.jpg

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13maxi(71 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

I agree with Woody. Don't insult the animals. My dogs don't act like this. They are loving and kind, well trained. Why? Because we have a responsibility to ensure their good behavior.

This story is awful! And the children involved, they too will have the same behaviors as these adults. They are products of their environments.

The people involved in this atrocity won't be reading any of our comments because I'm certain they can't read.

I don't know what the answers are to fixing this...there is so much of it!

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14seminole(476 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

And these would all be folks that voted for O...

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15Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

WHODAY?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0...

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16georgejeanie(755 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Once again, call the messiah, I am sure he can dole out the stimulus money to solve this problem. Another million or two could surely help these fine citizens become productive members of society.

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17southhi41(10 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Youngstown is just one city. This sort of thing
happens in every major city. When will mayors
call in the national guard, and enforce our laws?

Do these things happen in Iraq, Afghanistan ?
No different if foreign troops took over these
neighborhoods.

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18redvert(2043 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Not sure I buy this statement that it all started over "a verbal altercation the night before."

I would go more with walter's thoughts on it. Why did fifteen women choose to attack this woman.
My guess is that there are three sides to this story, hers, the "unbiased" witnesses and the truth. Could be wrong but this is Ytown culture!

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19redvert(2043 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

They never did say how they came up with the number of fifteen for the attackers.

Oh, my mistake, I see "after further review" that there were two "woopings." The altercation I mentioned in the previous post was associated with the " 2-by-4-inch, AKA "2X4" beaters.

I just can't always tell the players without a scorecard anymore.

Need another beer!

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20Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

It is midmonth and the medication is running out . If those ladies would have been stoned on crack cocaine they would not have left the crackhouse let alone attacked . Mayor Jay Williams needs to get that warehouse built and negotiate with Mexico for the purchase of cocaine . Cocaine today is considered a staple . It should be purchased with city funds and distributed free of charge to the needy .

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21Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

lumpy :

"The man grabbed the woman’s cell phone and ran off — leaving her unable to call police."

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22FormerYtowner(96 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

@ censoredship

"Or alternatively, if we are going to give deadbeats housing for free, then quarantine them with fences, cameras, one way in and out and a guard shack for sign-in entry into the plan"

Once all inside, block the one way in and one way out and set the whole damn area on fire.

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23loveblueunicorn(7 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

I have never heard so many ignorant and stupid comments in my life. You cannot put the blame on Obama or Jay Williams. Things have been going from bad to worse over 50 years ago. If you are going to blame someone blame the people who took over the United States because they were GREEDY. RufusVonDufus you are the most ignorant and stupidiest. And you need to get your facts straight. The ruination are all race not just a few. Its just a few places hide theirs better and have the money to give away so that it won't get published or buy their time from going to jail. I have worked with all races and they all are just the same. Rich to the poor. Its just that money talks more. Welfare system have been breaking down because they can only be on for 3 years for the money and then have to find jobs, but the problem is there is not enough jobs for everyone not even at McDonalds. So before anyone speaks out think and check your facts

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24walter_sobchak(1831 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

loveblueunicorn,
Facts:
victim is 21 years old and has, as a minimum, children that are 4 yrs old and 1yr old. (Children having childen.)

General Ruminations:
Does she have any other children?
Were are the father or fathers of these children?
Were the children alone inside when she was walking up to her apartment?
Why would she allow a 4 year old to open the door in such a neighborhood?
Is she employed legally?
If she is unemployed, would she work if she had the opportunity?
Does this woman have anyone else to blame for the situation she is in other than herself?

HMMMMMM?

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25Disgusted1027(4 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

I really hope that one of the PHONY 15 girls looks at this... you are all scary, it dont take 15 girls to fight one girl... if you were so mad that her and your boyfriend was arguing, THEN FIGHT HER YOURSELF, you dont get no credit when you cant handle your own battles.. your a PUNK.. and putting your hands on a child.. its cool cause when you go to jail, your friends wont be with you and the mothers in jail will handle that.. i cant wait until somebody stomps you out the same way... YOU DID THIS BECAUSE YOU KNEW THAT GIRL WOULD HAVE BEAT YOU UP IF YOU FOUGHT HER YOURSELF... AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT... GOOD ONE, YOU LOOK REAL SWEET.. the streets will take of you soon enough, since obviously none of you are bout it enough on your own and you will get caught slippin

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26Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

loveblueunicorn

"...but the problem is there is not enough jobs for everyone not even at McDonalds."

I'm so tired of this excuse, yes there are, you have to want to work. I have a felony on my record (only 1 1/2 years out) and I have a job and work. Instead of bettering themselves people have to use excuses for everything.

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27Disgusted1027(4 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

all of you stupid privileged white ( im sure) people are so naive and ignorant, you have no idea whats its like to be born into something that you cant help... not everyone is hand fed with a spoon like you, you dont know anything about this woman or what she is doing in her life.. you are so quick to put a label on her because she lives in the ghetto.. we live in a country full of poverty neglect while rich white people steal our tax dollars to get more rich not poverty stricken people.. there aren't many opportunities for someone that doesn't have any in the first place to get help to better themselves... most of the children living in poverty stricken areas dont even get the chance to be a child.. but according to you, thats their fault huh? The way our society is set up doesn't leave room for everybody to be successful, somebody has be poor and live in slums... so while you sit in your nice big house, stuffing your face on fat butt, i live in the real world where people are FORCED to live in violence and fear and not even have enough food to eat.. open up your eyes, maybe you should volunteer with organizations in low income areas so that you could get a feel of what these children and adults have to live though, not everyone is in that situation because theyre lazy THERE ISNT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND THE US... read a book.. because stupid ignorant privileged people like you are the reason that our nation is set up like it is.. and a whole class of people are left to pick up the pieces.

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28Disgusted1027(4 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Even if you have a job, it doesn't mean that you can automatically afford to get out of housing areas or out of the inner city... and lets not act like violence only comes out of the ghetto... child molesters are mainly middle class white males... so by your reasoning we should quarantine all middle class white males... and white collar crime is all over, and these people take advantage of the less fortunate, but i guess since they have money its not looked upon or focused upon so horribly.... you cant judge everyone based off of what some do.. newsflash... there are hard working good people that live in the ghetto.

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29Siouxi(122 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

"not everyone is hand fed with a spoon like you..."
You're exactly right about that. But, not everyone who is raised poor turns into a criminal, either. I was raised on the north side, and we were considered "poor." And yet, somehow, my siblings and I managed to avoid prison, gangs, drugs, crime and violence. No money from the parents for college so guess what? Loans and grants helped all 4 of us go to college. We also worked while going to school since mom and dad didn't have any extra cash to help us out.

Using poverty as an excuse for becoming a thug isn't an excuse at all.

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30walter_sobchak(1831 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Siouxi,

From the south side, been there, done that, got the sore back to prove it. We live in a great country that is going right down the $#!tter

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31Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Disgusted1027 :

"white people steal our tax dollars "

So it's your money and you should be able to do whatever you want to with it ?

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-conte...

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32Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Disgusted1027

Are you not disgusted at the black violence going on? Instead of blaming everyone else, which is the same old excuse, the white man, don't you think it's about time you look in the mirror and instead of hating on the whites, maybe considering being responsible for your own actions instead of excuses all the time. It's got to be getting old.

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33Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Disgusted1027 :

J.G. Wentworth may be able to help . I fully understand that it's your money and you need it now ! This may help until further taxation increases your stipend .

http://www.jgwentworth.com/

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34JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

"stuffing your face on fat butt"

Gotta say, haven't heard of this phrase before.

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35walter_sobchak(1831 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Grammatically, it should be

...stuffing your face as you sit on your fat butt,...

Unfortunately, the writer is suffering from the "Nunya syndrome", an ailment where correct grammar and syntax in composition cannot be achieved due to a deficit of education and understanding.

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36JME(801 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Thanks Walter, I see now. I should have known because I finally can read Nunyan.

I was thinking there was some type of sexual innuendo in the phrase.

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37steelhead(123 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

My guess is that the victims and their neighbors know exactly who did these crimes and why they occured. But they will not help the popo because that would be snitchin. Additionally, they will all bxxxh about the police for "not doing your job". I am so glad I don't live in the YO anymore. Want to know how to get out? Go to school, stay in school, don't get pregnant, go to college (it's mostly free, especially if you are "poor"). Study, get a job, and move. It's actually fairly easy, and, believe it or not, fun and rerarding. Then, when your kids see the example you set, they will become successful, happy people instead of rock slinging thugs. YOUR KIDS ARE WATCHING YOU AND THINK YOUR LIFE IS NORMAL.

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38lovedrama(138 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

My son had to go into the projects on the East side for a job with social services. He said people were throwing rocks at his car and even little kids were acing like animals, flipping he and his co-worker off and making shooting gestures. They were there to help but said f--- it and left. One of the residents told him they "don't like white people in that neighborhood". Why not? are they killing and shooting you? are they inhibiting you-with all of the grant money and welfare thrown to you? are they racist toward you- even while sensing your own openness and acceptance of others? What is the problem?!?

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39Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

steelhead

"Study, get a job, and move."

And where is this paradise people can move to that don't have crime, problems, etc, etc. Have a feeling there is no such place.

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4044509resident(45 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

This story sickens me, but some of these post make me even more ill. Here we go again blaming Jay Williams and Obama. And quit acting like there isnt crime in every city. It just doesnt get publicized as much because the media most likely live in those neighborhoods. Indeed these girls are punks for feeling the need to need 15 ppl. Who fights kids? There are so many things that these girls should be charged with. And the phone snatcher should also be charged with conspiracy! I dont blame the neighbor for only going in and getting the children and not getting them off the girl because they would have attacked her too. Most likely this was over a "boy" who doesnt care about either parties and is probably bragging to his friends about how he had 16 girls fighting over him. Quit being so offensive on here because your making yourselves sound just as childish as those 15 girls.

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41Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

lovedrama :

"One of the residents told him they "don't like white people in that neighborhood". Why not? are they killing and shooting you"

Blacks equate whites with the system and they don't like to be told what to do . Their values do not parallel our values . It is only when we have corrupted them AKA educated do they then embrace our values . The true corruption is where we have showered them with welfare and haven't forced them to work for the money . We then can never do enough for them and their values have been compromised .

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42fritzy99(2 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

black on black crime. What they don't get is we hope they continue to eliminate each other. That's less of the trash that we have to deal. Keep on beating and killing each other . You people are so stupid.

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43ohdrama0901(53 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Wow...well had people not taken out housing loans and actually paid their mortgages in Youngstown and surrounding cities then Housing Projects and Sect. 8 housing couldn't breed. Be sure that there will be more Sec. 8 housing coming your way because people buy all of the foreclosed homes and turn them into Sec.8 properties for profit. If all of these people wouldn't have went and started mortgages for homes that they knew had no way to afford them in the long run than this sort of thing would not be happening and used to be nice neighborhoods wouldn't have turned into slums. It is not just Youngstown, it's all over and as much as you people like to blame Obama for everything negative happening in this country need to stop and get a reality check. It's easy to blame others for your problems when you sit behind computers and talk crap rather than get out and try and make a change. Every housing project should have onsite management and armed security but until they do then this will be and stay the norm but it's just not Youngstown.

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