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Fallout from the drop



Published: Tue, September 14, 2010 @ 12:00 a.m.

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Elevator crews from ThyssenKrupp, the company that maintains the elevator in Kilcawley House, used these weights to test the elevator. The weight capacity of the elevator car is 2,500 pounds, according to a YSU Police report on the accident.

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Katia Middlebrooks, a freshman Youngstown State University student from Toledo, describes riding on the elevator at YSU’s Kilcawley House dormitory when the car dropped to the basement. She says the experience traumatized her, and she won’t ride the elevator again. Twelve other students were on board the elevator when the accident occurred Friday at about 6:30 p.m. All were treated and released that night from St. Elizabeth Health Center and Forum Health Northside Medical Center in Youngstown.

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A sign on the elevator door at Kilcawley House dormitory at YSU cautions residents to take the stairs.

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A YSU freshman recounts her experience aboard a YSU elevator in Kilcawley House.

A YSU freshman recounts her experience aboard a YSU elevator in Kilcawley House.

By Denise Dick

An elevator accident at YSU has ‘traumatized’ a student and has officials searching for causes

By DENISE DICK

denise_dick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Tests took place Monday to determine the safety of a residence-hall elevator that gave way Friday, injuring several Youngstown State University students, including one who vows never to ride it again.

Katia Middlebrooks, a freshman from Toledo, was one of the students on the Kilcawley House elevator when it fell.

“We were on the second floor, and we went to the fourth, and that’s when everyone came on to the elevator. And the elevator, it like wasn’t moving, and then we pushed the button and then it was coming down,” she said. “We didn’t know it was coming down until it hit the basement.”

She suffered a sprained knee and says she’s on medicine while it heals. Middlebrooks said she won’t ride the elevator again.

“I’m terrified,” Middlebrooks said. “I’m traumatized.”

It is an Otis Elevator cab, but the elevator is maintained by ThyssenKrupp Elevator, said Ron Cole, a YSU spokesman.

Representatives from ThyssenKrupp were investigating at the scene Monday, weight testing the elevator, he said. A call to ThyssenKrupp, which has an office in Cleveland, wasn’t returned late Monday afternoon.

A dolly stacked with weights rested outside of the elevator on the main floor of the residence hall Monday afternoon.

Thirteen students were on an elevator inside Kilcawley House at Youngstown State University when it dropped to the basement about 6:30 p.m. Friday night.

The elevator was occupied by several people Friday evening when it stopped at the first and fourth floors to pick up more passengers, a report from YSU police said. The elevator then went up as if it were going to the seventh floor “when suddenly it dropped to the basement,” the report said.

The elevator car capacity is 2,500 pounds, and the report lists 13 students who were on it at the time. It does not list the students’ weights but says “the incident may have occurred due to the car being overloaded.”

When it stopped, the car was about 10.5 inches below the stopping point, the police report said.

City firefighters and Rural Metro units also responded, and the fire department turned off the power to the elevator so EMS personnel could help those who were injured.

Seven of the elevator passengers were treated at St. Elizabeth Health Center and two others were treated at Forum Health North Side Medical Center.

Cole said that the elevator is equipped with a braking system that prevented a free fall of the car, allowing it to drop in a “controlled descent.”

Springs at the bottom of the shaft also are a safety measure, he said.

The elevator has been inoperable since the accident, causing students to take the stairs in the seven-story building.

A student who was not on the elevator, but said she notified authorities about the accident, told The Vindicator over the weekend that the students were in the elevator for 30 minutes waiting for help.

But Cole said the official university police log shows that the elevator failed at 6:28 p.m., and police were on the scene by 6:31 p.m.

Staff from the university’s residence life department plan to meet with students about the incident as well as to review elevator safety, he said.

In their statements to police, others who were on the elevator discussed how the elevator started to go up before dropping to the basement.

Rebekah Owen, 18, of Salem, wrote in her statement that she got on the elevator from the fourth floor, and there were “a lot of people in it.”

Owen wrote that she isn’t sure if someone hit the emergency button, but a voice came on and asked what the emergency was. The students answered that there wasn’t one.

“When we hit the button for our floor, it was taking forever for the doors to close,” she wrote. “Finally after we kept hitting the button it started to go up first; then suddenly, we could feel it going down.”

Owen wrote that the elevator hit and then bounced, and the students called for help.

Joseph Bass, 18, of Monesson, Pa., said in his statement that he got on the elevator at the first floor, heading upstairs.

“Elevator seemed overcrowded,” he wrote. “Got to the fourth floor, lights dimmed, and before I knew it, elevator crashed down to the basement.”


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1Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Let's see, 13 passengers and they were overloaded ? The rating of the elevator is 2,500 pounds . At 200 pounds each the load would have been 2,600 pounds . Katia Middlebrooks is a lot less than 200 pounds . There must have been some hefties on board .

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2Stormieangel(136 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

It was an accident; something went wrong. Accidents happen. Hopefully, this traumatized young lady will not be seeking punitive damages but who knows in today's society where we want a free ride. Heck, they should see it as an adventure, something they can talk about for years to come and say, "What a ride we had that day!!!" I don't mean to belittle the situation but truly it does not sound life threatening and there were enough students to help alleviate anyone's going out of control.

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3piak(508 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Stan and NoBS both hit it right on the nose.. Reporters have to put a story together with the sources they have at hand and from their past experience gained with similar incidents. Also, they have a deadline to meet for the story. A malfunctioning elevator is not a rare occurence, but it isn't something she (Ms Dick) would be sent to report on daily.

As far as the students are concerned, they were very fortunate. But, later in life, some problems might surface from this incident. That's what's "hairy" about this type of accident. We hope nothing shows up years later from this.

Safety inspections. There's a reason for them. You betcha.

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4Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Oh and the spin begins,..

See and yet again one has to accept that accidents happen. However, when doing a an overview you check both pre and post incident posture and positioning and it provides clarity as to who's trying to deflect facts.

Where in doing that here Y.S. Shrew has leap into the textbook " blame game " where the students are to be portrayed as fault and witnesses obscured.

Just as suspected now there's absolutely no mention of that specific elevator, having been duly noted by students to have had problems.

One that had the elevator plunging to the basement " totally empty " as well as the sporadic other functionality faults previously noted.

There's also no mention of the drastically " scaled down " maintenance division. To include they've backed off the claim that the elevator has been inspected recently prior to this.

Where of course there's no mention of the more severe physical injuries sustained by some of those students.

Now in regards to individual injury not all afflictions are of broken bones variety. Where just like unfortunate vehicle or other various happenstance accidents. The affect on people vary and some people get unsettled in some positions that another wouldn't.

Where aside from the impact of being jostled around in such a fall. For one to find themselves entrapped inside a cubical and not know what else is going to happen or if or when you'll be rescued is a traumatic experience.

Thus if you're not that person you can't determine the impact an ordeal had on them. As far as medicine it could be an anti inflammatory, pain relief med or a sedative more mental anxiety.

Due to my experience in an array of aspects there are things I look and listen for in cases and or incidents. Which what Y.S. Shrew is showing is they're as pathetic as I've historically noted they are.

Due to my obtaining an eclectic and functionally affluent education elsewhere. In contrast when noting outfit's like Y.S. Shrew. Now has me unquestionably assured I made the right decision to have nothing to do with them

That is aside from previously playing pickup ball games with some of their basketball and football players. But I never held their attendance at that ridiculous rat pack against them.

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5Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

@ DJ is a colon

Granted I didn't go to various schools to become a novelist. For which if you did I'd suggest you not tell anyone,.. LOL !!!

Thus if you're ever privileged to get a hand written note, from either your physician, attorney, congressional representative, gifted artist or boss do a comparison.

See it's really all about content and context in regards to effective conveyance. Thus those composites are far more impacting than connate composition,..understand that?

See some of us are whom books are written about. As opposed to those whom merely try to retell the story with meticulous syntax,.. now you guess who's who here.

That said,.. your tumultuous triad of incompetency, irrelevance and inferiority complex is duly noted,.. ROTFL !!!

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6FrankDavis(35 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Traumatized? I wonder if Mr. Betras has heard about this blatant disregard of students' personal safety?!? I'm sure he might have some time in his schedule to meet with these poor victims.

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7southsidedave(4710 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Possibly if some of the students would use the stairs, especially when they are only going up or down one flight, this could be avoided. The elevators should only be used by people who are disabled all others should use the stairs!

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8Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

@ FrankDavis

The old ambulance chaser line,.. LMAO !!!

Surely Betras's commercials portray that he fits the description. But if it were me I wouldn't hire him,..

See this is ordeal is against Y.S. Shrew and Betras would be going against his own roost.

This isn't a mock Betras by trade or character though. It's just when selecting counsel, always check to see what affiliations they have.

Where if they're cozy with the culprit you're making a mistake in your selection and embracing a conflict of interest.

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9Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

I want a camera outside of this elevator on every single floor. If this blood sucker even steps foot on it I'll be PO'd. She gonna attempt to get money, unrightfully so. You chose to get on the elevator, it plainly states a weight limit. When your running elbows with 12 other people shouldn't red flags start going off? None should be entitled to anything other than their hospital visit. It was their choice to ride the elevator. And their choice to never ride it again.

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10sonnype(70 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

The university is responsible for the saftey of the students and it failed in its obligation.I have read the post that those injured just want money for damages.If the university did its job there would have been no incident so lay off the students who `s only mistake was to get on the elevator they assumed was safe.

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11advocateforjustice(5 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

there is some word going about that the young people on the elevator all decided to simultaneously jump up and down repeatedly in the elevator. perhaps their behaviors should be looked into as a potential cause of this accident which could have cause more serious injury to everyone

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12redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

This guy has got to be the ultimate dork. I picture him with his little dark rimmed glasses and bow tie.

I will say that he almost had a four line paragraph in his first response. His attention span is getting better.

Don't ever go away, you are comical as hell!

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13theguins(158 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Curious to know how the University failed the obligation of student safety? A safety inspection had to be performed for the operation of the elevator. Whether it was 2 days, 2 weeks or 2 months ago it was inspected and past all requirements. Been on the elevator in Kilcawley hall in the past(years past). Yes, with 11-12 college kids packed in and jostling around at that. Just fortunate it never went down.

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14maxi(71 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

As a parent, I am very thankful the students are "ok". As an employee who has always worked in a building with elevators, I would hope the elevators are truly inspected as the elevator certificate posted indicates.

The university does have the responsibility of ensuring these elevator inspections. Equally important, the students have the responsibility (remember, they are not little children) to follow the recommendations posted on the elevator. That was a narrow elevator and it appeared that too many people were on the elevator.

I noticed that the one male student interviewed by the local news station was larger in stature. And that is just him...what about the others (besides Ms. Middlebrooks who was obviously small).

I couldn't help but notice that Ms. Middlebrooks had a smile on her face in the photo. It also appeared that she enthusiastically told her story to the reporter. Of course, she admitted no fault on the part of the students. And of course, she is taking "medicine" for aches and pains. A little anti-inflammatory is probably all that she needed.

In fairness to the students, I would be concerned why it too so long to convince the front desk person that there truly was an emergency. Once 911 was activated, it appears that the emergency personell arrived quickly.

It will pain me to see any litigation here but that is the culture in Youngstown. And it will probably happen.

And @ Nunya, I consider myself to be someone who writes and reads well. I have no idea what you are talking about when I read your posts. Perhaps if you write with more simplicity (drop your larger words that you are using out of context) then perhaps people will understand the message you are trying to convey. I can assure you that no one is listening to you with your present style of writing. I read one paragraph and moved on. Hope this helps you.

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15Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Ohh come on redskirt,.. LMAO !!!

See just like not all of us intellectuals indeed don't wear horn rimmed glasses. Or even wear glasses nor bow ties at all for that fact.

However, in your case clearly not only wouldn't glasses be futile in trying to correct your varmint vision you fish eyed fool.

But I bet you augment that hooch barrel you don as duds. Accents your striped socks and plaid or hounds tooth flannel shirt. Which matches your bow tie and hat with the ear flaps when you're all gussied up too,.. LMAO !!!

See I enjoy you but your problems are self induced and you wear it all well you comical kook,.. you have no choice.

Because we all know you had a chance and made a personal choice. Between that of getting an education or developing some sense or not and clearly you squandered both of them,.. you're just that consistent that's all.

But see now just like you're of that quackery crowd whom tried to challenge the presidents birth certificate. Merely because to you he wasn't supposed to have been able to develop such a rapport and intellect of being so articulate.

So now you're perched somewhere in self pity. Trying to proclaim that no way in hell could I have came from the same valley as you. Yet be this much more of an intelligent being than you could ever imagine even in your wildest dreams,.. LMAO !!!

See it's clear you favored skipping school thinking that was cooler than ice cubes. Opting for the booze, tobacco, drugs, cussing with your cousins and going to family reunions to look for a mate,.. you ingrate.

Thus now when you realize what you've so irreversibly done to yourself. Of course you'd like to try to deflect it and allege it's all my, your veterinarian, TV programming or those dang ole " stoopid " teachers faults.

So no, no Bucko,.. you and you alone are why you've sentenced yourself to be relegated as such the festooned buffoon for life,.. ROTFFLMAO !!!

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16redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

"redskirt"

Nunya, I told you before not to fantasize about men because after all, you will never be a pitcher!!!

Did mom mix up the drug portions again? You do realize that the only reason I commented earlier was to see if I could get you to entertain us with another ramble. You did good.

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17seagull(20 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Maxi, I agree with you 100%...not only on your opinions and perceptions regarding the article in question (I, too, saw the young man interviewed...), but also with regard to the rantings and ravings of Nunya. Try as I might, I can't figure out what point he's actually trying to make. He appears to impress only himself....

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18TheLostPatrol(748 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

When it is all said and done, the real truth will emerge, and I am betting"advocate" hit the nail on the head; they were all jumping up and down simultaneously. Elevators just don't free-fall, and I am certain that this particular elevator has been serviced most recently, too, as routine maintenance.

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19angelic0ne007(4 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

I was a resident of Kilcawley House not too long ago (still a student at YSU) and remember the elevator but also remember the craziness that went on in it. I, for one, am terrified of elevators (got stuck in one once for a length of time and that was all it took) and never took it except when I tore my knee and was on crutches...and I would get on and watch people jumping up and down at once with a countdown. Not only that, they liked to push the emergency stop button, trash it, and lord knows what else. And for some reason, when people were drunk, they would ride it for HOURS at night.

Do they still urinate in it regularly?? Nothing like being forced to take an elevator that smells like piss 24/7.

And in this young lady's defense, if she's like me...it doesn't take much to be absolutely terrified of them. For me, it took one incident of being stuck. Nothing happened but it simply stopped, and the lights dimmed. It freaked me out and now I avoid them at all possible times.

I am not saying it's these students fault, but every single aspect MUST be investigated.

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20walter_sobchak(1750 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

I will bet when the engineers complete their investigation, they will find that the elevator was overloaded and misused and that the emergency systemto permit a controlled fall operated as designed. That is why their are no serious injuries. But, go ahead and make YSU the boogeyman as if they somehow failed the students in preventing them from being typical young people.

And, PLEASE, just ignore Nunya and the incredibly inane rantings. I know its like driving by the scene of a horible accident. You don't want to but you look anyway. Ignore the nonsensical babbling!

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21Silence_Dogood(1219 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

" Elevators just don't free-fall,"

The lost patrol. elevators are made by man (and woman), and all things made by man can fail.Gears wear out, cables stretch, springs fail, ect. ect. ect..
YSU has done its job by having these elevators checked and tested as required by law, in short they have done thier due diligence. The thing about elevators is that you don't have your YSU mechanic check and test these elevators, you go to the experts for those services. When the lawsuits start to fly(and fly they will) it will not be YSU that will be at fault, it will be the hired experts that were hired to ensure the safety of this VERY SPECIALIZED peice of equiptment.

And as for you nunya your short list claim of occupations that you fancy yourself as, well we all know that Doctor would be out of the question, for we all know that Doctors do not have the luxury of time that your postings indicate that you have. Congressman, well you are to much of an self loving blowhard, the voters would have spoted the phony years ago.Gifted Artist, well you might have artistic talent, for the vast majority of artist's are egocentric, and you sure do display those tendencies.That leaves us with Lawyer and Boss, I would guess that you are both.A lawyer with a staff of one to sit around and listen for the rare ring that your phone may emit. Reread your post and then compare those to the MODERN written English language, do you see the desparity, and why people may question your mental health. My guess is the thing that drives you crazy the most is that with thirteen people on that elevator not a single one will be calling your office.

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22bobhogue(102 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

@walter_sobchak: Perfectly stated.

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23seagull(20 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Silence, there is absolutely no way Nunya is an attorney. Ever read a legal brief? The writing has to be clear and succinct. And Nunya's writing is anything but clear and succinct. I can't imagine he earned a high school diploma, much less a college degree. Walter, I know I should just ignore it...but whatever high school or college he attended should demand their credentials back! I also suspect he at one time either worked for YSU and was fired, or was a student, as he most definitely has a chip on his shoulder regarding the university. In fact, I suspect I know who he is.....

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24Silence_Dogood(1219 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

seagull
I can't say that I have read a legal brief but I am well aware of the fact that Lawyers have to have a great command of the english language. I think our dear schizophrenic poet laureate fancies his written word's to be a display of his GREAT command of the written word. In short he more then likely has a love of Shakespeare and psycotropic drugs.

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25redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

I have had fun taunting our troubled friend because he is so amusing but it is getting boring. I agree that it is best to ignore him. I will do that in the future!

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26seagull(20 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Silence, completely agree about the psycotropic drugs!!!!

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27ALLKNOWING(1 comment)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

I will remain anonymouse since I am not at liberty to discuss this incident. But I can tell you that ALL safety devices operated as designed. Tested even for an overloaded condition loaded of 125% of its rated load. Sounds to me like they really overloaded this elevator. Maybe some fingers should be being pointed at each other in the elevator.

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28Silence_Dogood(1219 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

ALLKNOWING
We know each and every person that was on the elevator, so it will not be to hard to figure out the load that the elevator was sujected to.My guess is that weight will fall well below the max limit, so with that said what would be the cause. One question comes to mind that a physics major might be able to answer, and that is what is the increase in force applied to the elevator when you have all thirteen jump at the same time. It may turn out that we had thirteen idiots that decided to jump at the same time thinking that it would be a HOWL.

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29angelic0ne007(4 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

And how do you know this? Where is your proof? Until I see it, I am not believing anything of what is being said. As of right now, it could either be the elevator's fault or the students fault.

HOWEVER, people are free to speak their mind, as you are. And believe what they want. You believe what you believe, and they believe what they believe. No need to get all pissy.

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30Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Oh my,.. LMAO !!!

In manner of redress there moronic Maxi,.. Wally Slob_Shack,...Silence_Dogdoo,.. seagull { the birdbrain },.. and redskirt.

I'll do it in a manner of group therapy for you maleficent misfits before I address you as individuals. Yet first allow me to say how flattering it is. To have you flat headed freaks fawning to show I've made a mockery out of all of you.

Where to eviscerate the myth that there's power in numbers you bungling bumblers. Here in a 5 on 1 mismatch I'll single handily proceed to continue making laugh tracks out of you. In a combination of infusing entertainment with enlightenment.

Yet doing so in such a way that the entire viewership. Can and will get a good laugh. Jovially enjoying your posture as johnny jump-up jokes. Vying for position as my very own petulant little punchlines and stage props.

Where with poetic justice while stewing your goose. Lets theatrically coin this " Beauty and the Geese " you little futile flock of finks,.. ROTFFLMAO !!!.

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31Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

lol ^^

iv'e always liked nunya's posts... this one doesn't dissapoint.

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32seagull(20 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

In my wildest dreams, I could not have imagined a more rambling, obtuse response filled with sentence fragments, misspellings, and truly lame alliterations. Bravo, Nunya...you've outdone yourself in spectacular fashion!!! How long did it take you to compose this hot mess?

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33Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

@ seagull

Shush it self sufferance suckup

Bird droppings,..of bla, bla, bla is your bluster filled babble you absolute incoherent idiot. Of course that is when you're not perching to pucker up to schmooze some other loons moons,.. you submissive Simpleton.

Where neither of us bore on site witness to this ordeal. Unlike you I'm not sold on total and absolute guilt in positioning. For which in my not being one for dining on nor serving up red herring you poorly choreographed crying line chorus Clown.

I laid out a litany of relevant facts and in your being left unable to discount them. Via your sharing an inept inability to respond in any manner of even remotely refuting them. You laughably schmoozed moronic Maxi's looney moons while re-launching into your incredulous inferiority complex,.. and yes yet again you provide premise for mass laughter.

As for a brief you want succinct you laughable dink?,.. HERE GOES.

Try accepting that beyond all that. This isn't the first time I've squished your dribble there Ish-kabibble,.. LMAO !!!

Because you know I've already taken you to task. Having proved you worthless, wrong and duly shut your witlessness up long ago you fiendishly feathered fraud,.. Unfounded?

NO,.. lets just refresh your madcap memory you mumbo jumbo milled moron,.. http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/sep/03...

How's THAT for " Who Shat in your hapless Hat " you super stupid Y.S. Shrew rat,... ROTFFLMAO !!!

Thus in your xenophobic zeal to be the butt of over your head zingers you zoo suited zealot. Clearly had your gutless time at Y.S. Shrew taught you anything. You'd have shown it by now you pouting little pull toy,.. Got that?

You're so stupid, deplorably dumb and incisively uneducated.That if I even showed you an endorsement letter in conjunction with a Rhodes scholarship. You'd not only require somebody read it to you. But you'd think it's some lofty buddy letter to get you on with the street department,.. you pie factory filled pumpkin head.

See here again you of the most worthless of all Y.S. Shrew alums. Has sordidly solidified that in regards to smarts you're nothing but plunder bums,.. LMAO !!!

Which makes you fraud educated filled freaks furious. Because in comparison I take you loons to school by routine, with ease and in front of all these people,.. remain in your seats you laughable creeps.

Now hows that for re-launching Sweeps week scuttlebutt you minced nonsensical Nut,.. Hmmmm?

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34seagull(20 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Oh Nunya, why is it you never answer a direct question, only respond with silly nonsense? You are much too lame to have a serious debate with, but I do find you entertaining in a sad, pathetic way. Have you discussed with your doctor about upping your meds?

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35Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

@ seagull

Come on Horse feathers, you alleged you could do better than that,.. but evidently not.

See aside from having shown the fine folks where I'd offered you to put up or shut up discussion before,.. and you'd clearly Shut up.

Where here in POST # 7, I presented an array of relevant questions beyond speculative thought. For which it's YOU whom has displayed an inability to refute, debunk or deny,.. and your innate inability infuriates you, you imbecilic ingrate.

Where although this time you reappeared foolishly thinking you had numbers to discredit me. However now you're finding yourself being humiliated via that laughable assumption,.. WAIT TILL YOU HEAR HOW I DISMANTLE THEM.

However, at least in your finding yourself entertainingly exploited as the disingenuous dummy you are. It's hilarious for myself and viewers to distinguish that you're doing your haplessly laughable best.

To run from the irrefutable fact's and seethe in the fodder of your own foolishness. For which merely serves as yet another reason to unquestionably recognize you as the exact cunning, incompetent and now cowering imbecile I'd stated you were / are.

Now if you'll excuse yourself,.. sit back and while seething in your seat. Pay more attention to how I'll proceed to unravel the babble of your fellow buffoons. Where by sensible opinion you're FINISHED !!!

Oh,.. and before I forget. Allow me to abbreviate how pleasurable plundering you has been. You implausibly inept delusion of Y.S. Shrew infusion on public display,.. ROTFFLMAO !!!

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36Silence_Dogood(1219 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

rrrrrrrring

rrrrrrrring

rrrrrrrring

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37seagull(20 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

Nunya, just for fun, and for the last time, please tell us where you obtained your illustrious education. I would appreciate knowing from which instutution of higher learning you attended, and the alleged degrees you obtained. Clearly, and laughably, you consider yourself better educated than 99% of the people who post on this forum. If you are, as you describe yourself, so highly educated, then you would be familiar with the term "megalomania." I think this condition may be the root of your problems. "Megalomania is not a symptom or a diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)[2] or the ICD. However, grandiosity and delusions of grandeur have similar meanings to megalomania and are used in the DSM and ICD as possible symptoms of several mental conditions." Just thought I would share that with you.

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38n2wishin(8 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

I wonder if Nunya
a) works for the vindicator
b) lives with his mother
c) should not give up his day job
d) all of the above

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39ohdrama0901(53 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Okay read enough, stopped at the kids shouldn't be taking elevators and furthermore going to college on tax dollars. What type of moron, stupid jerk are you? Really? Okay if these students weren't in school trying to make something out of themselves instead of being an idiot like yourself babbling with your mental midget self than you would be complaining that these same kids are out here committing crimes. Your tax dollars? Why does it have to be your tax dollars? You are probably unemployed and on some type of government assistance yourself acting like you actually know where your tax dollars are going. Who really knows where their tax dollars are going. It's not like you get any say in the matter but nevertheless that had to be the most stupidest statement that I have heard on here yet. I hope the girl does sue and get compensated because then maybe they will properly fix that raggedy elevator along with making some upgrades in the dorm itself. These kids pay good money to go to college rather it be grants and loans the money gets paid so there is no need for them to be living in subpar conditions.

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