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Campbell council rejects police contract



Published: Thu, September 2, 2010 @ 12:07 a.m.

By jeanne starmack

starmack@vindy.com

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Council unanimously rejected a new contract with police, and that means the issue may end up in court, or the contract may be re-negotiated.

Council also voted 4-1 to advance to a second reading an ordinance on a city-employee hiring freeze.

The police contract, signed July 27 by Mayor George Krinos and Police Chief Gus Sarigianopoulos, gives raises of $1 an hour to six of the city’s 12 police officers. Those raises bring the officers up to parity with the others. Officers hired after 2005 were on the lower pay tier because of the city’s financial problems.

The pay issue was decided by an arbitrator, and Krinos did not consult council before he waived fact- finding and went straight to arbitration.

But the pay is no longer as big an issue for council members, said council President William VanSuch.

VanSuch said the raises, which cost the city $16,500 more a year in salaries and benefits, will be covered by an allocation to the police department for a detective who’s no longer there.

More of an issue, he said, is a clause in the pact that takes away council’s right to decide how many officers the police department can have and gives that right instead to the mayor.

That clause is in conflict with the city charter, which is what gives council the power to decide.

VanSuch and other council members agreed that only the voters can decide who gets that right.

Two council members, Michael Tsikouris and Juanita Rich, voted against an emergency resolution authorizing the police department to give civil-service tests for a hiring- eligibility list.

Rich said she voted “no” to keep Krinos from hiring another police officer.

She said he indicated at a caucus meeting Aug. 25 that he intended to do that.

But the legislation, she said, is meant only to compile an eligibility list.

The resolution passed. But because it needed four votes to pass as an emergency, it is not in effect for another 30 days.

The hiring freeze ordinance, if passed, would affect all full- and part-time employees and volunteers, said VanSuch. But it can be amended, he added.

Council member Bryan Tedesco voted against the freeze, citing concerns about the city’s being short-handed if someone leaves or gets sick.

Rich said a state commission that oversees Campbell’s finances because it is in fiscal emergency has told the city it should have a hiring freeze.


Comments

1valleyresident(24 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

I think the city council has this all wrong with all the crime problems in Campbell. Instead of finding ways to help the police Department it seems like they are trying to cut the police department. Why would you not worry about replacing the recent vacant officers spot in an understaffed police department with so much crime? As a tax payer and resident of the city of Campbell my number one issue is public safety. It seems like council does not have public safety as a priority or issue. There was a charter issue on the ballot several years ago that I believe stated the city had to maintain 16 full time police officers. The charter issue for police and public safety was passed by the voters of Campbell. As a tax payer I would like to know where are the 16 full time officers at? City Council needs to be replaced immediately from the looks of things due to the lack of concern for public safety.

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2UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

Drunks do what they want - George Krionos should resign as mayor!!! Campbell is such a great example of the failed DemoRATs who run this valley.

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3severthis(42 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

"Rich said a state commission that oversees Campbell’s finances because it is in fiscal emergency has told the city it should have a hiring freeze"
Perhaps the state commission should recommend Campbell give up the ghost. Dissolve the kingdom and merge with Struthers, Youngstown, Coitsville, Lowellville, God forbid - Poland - break it up, take your pick -- anything but try to keep the defunked little "burgh" running on empty.

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4theword(342 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

@LOL

You sure want that extra dollar in your pocket don't you?

Face it the city is broke and you knew your pay scale when you took the job. If you didn't like what you were going to make then you should have stayed at coitsville twp working part time and half the pay!!!!!

And how is the police department going to put council in their place?

GROW UP ALREADY

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5mrblue(974 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

And the circus continues. Yes, we are the joke of the valley, and it isn't going to change anytime soon. Our mayor and council will probably never agree on any issue. The tax levy in November will not pass. I and many people that I have talked to, do not trust the administration.

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6L0L(648 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

Good questions valleyresident. Maybe someone should sue the city for not following the charter the council follows to the T. T hat is in every section except the section requiring 16 full time officers. Maybe thats how the police could show the council "theword". And stop playing on teh internet while you're supposed to be working for the city right now sherman.
@censoredship. Maybe because that was 100 years ago. Get with the times.

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7redvert(2056 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

LOL, thank you for "correcting" censoredship!

censoredship, 100 years ago people in public service still had integrity, they were not part of the "gimmie-gimmie" crowd......

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8TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

"Why do police need to be UNIONIZED? "
Because 100 years ago, private security guards and private police companies were shooting people at will with little or no repercussions. Examine the work of Pinkerton "detectives."

Sadly, there wasn't much in the way of public service period 100 years ago. History shows you two are dopes. well done!

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9L0L(648 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

Redvert ill "correct" you now. 100 years ago police werent gimmie-gimme, they were takey-takey. The police have come along way. They were unionized for the same reason every other profession was unionized in the 1900s. Job security, safety, wages and fear of being fired for no reason. How about you catch up to the times too.

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10Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

Oh Jeez,..

This is corruption caught red handed. Where in honoring sense, decency, integrity and competence. On a honorable not I say hats off to Juanita Rich and Michael Tsikouris for their positions.

Because plain as day George Krinos, Bryan Tedesco and William J. VanSuch. Are all indefensible problems for the residents of Campbell hopes and efforts to resurrect their city. Which along with and even beyond their histories of non producers the positioning of Krinos, Tedesco and VanSuch here makes that perfectly clear,.. PETITION TO GET RID OF ALL OF THEM !!!

See where " observant1 " was certainly a bit ham and heavy handed in so tumultuously trying to demean and demoralize Campbell's residents in contemptible caricature,.. his post was deleted by someone at Vindy.

Where in contrast and differing with that individuals view. I see that the residents of Campbell clearly wanted better than Dill as their mayor and sensibly voted him out.

Where in having a limited field of candidates and electoral options. In having given Krinos a chance he's unquestionably failed them miserably.Campbell is an area that's been ravaged by corruption and cronies. However, there is a wealth of great citizens there and together they can recover their city.

But it's clear they're going to have to oust George Krinos, Gus Sarigianopoulos, William VanSuch and Bryan Tedesco,.. FOR STARTERS.

In a word what George Krinos, is spearheading here as admin emperor for criminality. Is trying to exact an overthrow of Campbell's governance,.. he's trying to abolish an equal branch of local governance.

He's abominable for that and that's aside from bearing a reprehensible record in both spectrum's of social and public works.

His 2nd DUI couldn't have came at a more profound time to pale this incredulous attempt.

Which solidifies to any and all Campbell residents with any sense. He absolutely has to be displaced from any and all influence, authority and reflection,.. then work on removing Sarigianopoulos, VanSuch and Tedesco next

That is if Campbell is going to stand a chance of recovering and restoring any sense of decency or viability of sustainment.

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11Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

@ severthis

You're definitely on the right track,..

Not to neither sound nor give any conveyance as a cultural anti Semite.

However, it's without question that Campbell's best days were when that area was more racially diverse. I had many friends and family that lived there years ago and they've all left years ago.

Where in having questioned a few current residents of Campbell. I asked what they thought the problem was.

Where amidst some saying the loss of the Steel Mills did it,.. forgive them.

The more rousing responses were those signifying that if you're not Italian or Greek you can forget having a say in Campbell,.. so I reviewed it.

See there's good, bad, great and even terrible in all races, of both genders and of all ages.

However, if you know or review Campbell's history. The record in fact does reveal that there's a Greek and Italian connection that's been trading off finishing that area off.

It's now almost to a point where if Campbell's not annexed to come under the governance of a neighboring area.

All state and federal funding should be petitioned to cease. Because it's doing no good and not benefiting the general populous at all.

The disturbing thing is it's been going on so long now it's not only repressively gotten worst. But the funding is doing nothing but financing criminality.

Again it's not my effort, interests, intent nor desire to offend anyone. But that's not just a perspective but in conferring with a host of onlookers of an extremely diverse base. It's a unanimous consensus of not a single one of whom I've conferred with that sees it any different.

With his horrid past history of personal affairs even before assuming office. Krinos was elected by having a large Greek demographic in the electorate. Along with being closely associated with those whom mean the area no good,.. Check the article along with constant decline.

Granted there were limited candidates and Dill had to go. So with respect for the voters they didn't really have much of a choice of selections.,.. but George Krinos?

To include nowhere else would a Gus Sarigianopoulos been retained as police chief other than possibly Warren Ohio,.. A.K.A. a larger version of what Campbell has digressed into.

Granted Youngstown and other areas have their problems and this isn't any anti Greek or Italian hate entry.

But in defense of what I'd inquired about and I'm seeing there and sharing here. Is the irrefutable fact that there's no other area in the region { other than Warren }.

That has retained such a closed circuit of criminality and harbored hopes of anything changing basing votes on cultural identity.

Lastly whomever Campbell would be annexed to shouldn't be Youngstown to add to Youngstown working through it's problems with weeding out corruption.

But by geographic positioning and structure I think Coitsville could handle expansion,.. if it comes to that.

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12Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

@ Senseless_Sh_t,..

You've managed to bypassed being WAY off base to now end up in your own delusional stratosphere,..

What we have here is another defining moment that reveals Krinos has to go. See it's without question that Public servants deserve the very best because we expect the very best from them,.. END OF DISCUSSION.

For which Krinos is clearly trying to bribe the police force and he's aligned with Sarigianopoulos trying to do it,.. WITH TAXPAYERS MONEY !!!

See Krinos isn't only the employer of Sarigianopoulos's wife on the payroll as a clerical expense. Along with councilman Bryan Tedesco's son being hired on the police force,.. SHEER COINCIDENCE HUH.

Now here's an instance where that trilogy of treachery has seized empowered perches. To where now the attempt is to try to abolish city council all together,.. TRY EXPLAINING IT ANY OTHER WAY.

They have two glaring moles among those council members. Where if you read their positions they self identify themselves.

So as for law enforcement personnel. If the city is going to have a lawful force of any integrity and protective representation. They HAVE to be unionized to avert exactly what you see Krinos doing,.. TEXTBOOK !!!

They can't be left under the yea or nay scrutiny and or fate of those like Krinos or Sarigianopoulos and events like this SOLIDIFIES that reasoning.

As to avert the corruption hand of oppositional picking non conformists to be hired and or fired. Hired by cronyism and or fired for not aligning with their imposition of mass criminality of those whom seek to corrupt local governance.

So see what I'm gathering here by pattern, players, positions and postures of personal profiteering,.. IT'S AGE OLD MANNER OF CRIMINAL SEIZURE !!!

What you're seeing in the acts, efforts and attempts of Krinos, VanSuch and Bryan Tedesco. Is banding with Sarigianopoulos, to bribe the police force, bamboozle the taxpayers, take total control of local governance while they try to consecrate their wave of criminality.

See if they get away with this, they'll have egregiously exacted. A measure of making everyone in Campbell's governance to subscribe to becoming mere criminal conduits and cronies. By virtue of otherwise having no choice to conform unless they don't want a job within that city.

Lastly already being in a oversight required position of emergency. Something tells me those criminals have now managed to have drawn the attention. Of more state and federal eyes and ears than you or they realize,..

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13L0L(648 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

"An armed population is just frightening"

-Nope. Im all for it.

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14Stav2k(12 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Nunya, to sum up all your written diarrhea....

"It's them Greeks and Italians that are bringing down the house!"

Who woulda thunk it?

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