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Graham, Ryan clash on Pelosi, stimulus



Published: Thu, October 21, 2010 @ 12:00 a.m.

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U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan (D-17)

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Jim Graham

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Ex-U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant Jr.

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17th District

Three candidates are running for the 17th Congressional District seat. James A. Traficant Jr., an independent candidate, did not respond to a questionnaire mailed by The Vindicator to his home. This listing is based on responses to those questionnaires. An (*) denotes the incumbent.

TIM RYAN (D)*

Age: 37

Home: 1504 Taft Ave., Niles.

Education: A law degree from Franklin Pierce University in Rindge, N.H.; a bachelor’s degree in political science from Bowling Green State University; a graduate of John F. Kennedy High School in Warren.

Employment: Congressman.

Family: Single.

Priority: To promote economic development and job growth.

JIM GRAHAM (R)

Age: 57

Home: 248 Wae Trail, Cortland.

Education: A doctorate of pharmacy and a bachelor of science degree from Ohio Northern University; a Warren Western Reserve High School graduate.

Employment: Corporate manager of Clinical Pharmacy Services for Humility of Mary Health Partners.

Family: Wife, Claudia; two sons.

Priority: Enhance the environment for business growth and job creation; start paying off the debt, rewrite the health-care bill, and seal the borders.

By David Skolnick

skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

The $800-billion-plus federal stimulus package was too small, U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan said.

It should have been twice the amount to drive down unemployment, get people back to work, and grow the economy, said Ryan, of Niles, D-17th.

“To say the stimulus didn’t work goes against every economic indicator available,” he said. “Things have certainly gotten a lot better, but unemployment hasn’t gone down enough and [Democrats] lost the message” on the stimulus bill being a good thing for the country.

The stimulus money helped “stabilize” the economy of the Mahoning Valley and other areas, Ryan said.

“I don’t think the stimulus was big enough,” he said.

Ryan is seeking his fifth two-year term as representative of the 17th Congressional District that includes portions of Mahoning, Trumbull, Portage and Summit counties.

He is being challenged by Republican Jim Graham of Cortland, manager of clinical pharmacy services for Humility of Mary Health Partners, and ex-U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant Jr. of Poland, running as an independent.

Graham criticized the $800-billion-plus federal stimulus package, saying it provided some benefit but was too expensive, and the promises of low unemployment didn’t materialize.

Though many Democrats back away from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Ryan said the two “share values,” and he praises her as a “very pragmatic politician” who’s “taken on the left wing of the party.”

Graham said he is “disgusted and angry about the lack of representation afforded to us by [Ryan], and his strict adherence to every Pelosi order on how to vote.”

For those looking for interesting and compelling political theater, this race should have fit the bill.

But it’s been relatively quiet.

Traficant, who used to employ Ryan during his time as a congressman, attracted a lot of attention in late August when his campaign successfully got him on the ballot after it initially appeared as though he wouldn’t have enough signatures to be an eligible candidate.

Except for the past week or so, Traficant has made only a handful of campaign appearances. And recently he’s been talking only about bringing an Indian gambling casino to North Jackson — something that isn’t permitted under state or federal law.

Also, Traficant has failed to raise the $5,000 minimum needed to file campaign finance reports with the Federal Election Commission.

In comparison, Graham raised $49,928.27 and spent $38,941.53 on his campaign as of Sept. 30.

Ryan raised and spent more than $1 million on his campaign. Last month, Ryan transferred $50,000 from his campaign to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee to provide money for fellow Democrats running in this election.

Ryan’s campaign had $272,306.12 as of Sept. 30. Ryan had carried over money from previous campaigns.

Ryan doesn’t plan to spend money on airing television commercials.

Graham plans some TV advertising, but it will be minimal.

“It’s horribly expensive,” he said.

Most national political handicappers have this race as “likely Democrat” or “safe Democrat,” even in a year in which several Democrats are fighting for their political lives.

If Democrats lose control of the House, Ryan said he’ll maintain his position on the powerful appropriations committee.

“Even a minority member on appropriations has a lot of influence,” he said.

If elected, Graham said he would support a 20-percent cut from every federal agency except the Defense Department and would start paying off the national debt. That wold mean pay freezes and/or layoffs for federal employees, Graham said.

“We have a huge deficit,” and the only way to cut it is to spend less and cut more, he said.

Graham also supports reducing regulations and taxes to allow small businesses to grow.


Comments

1Youngstown(19 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

How so?

In one instance of the retiree situation-

The Delphi salaried retirees never supported Congressman Ryan but he went so far as to write a letter to Obama requesting he help save their retirements.

He could have easily said, screw you guys. But he didn't turn his back on them. He didn't turn his back on a group of constituents that never even supported him.

That's atypical of a "politician" and quite frankly, admirable.

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2Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

When I think I've heard the craziest thing I've ever heard, Timmy Ryan then says something like the >$800,000,000.00 porkulus bill wasn't "big enough."

WOW. The debt has grown 3 TRILLION dollars and yet unemployment has still risen. The Democratic-Socialists obviously will never wake up and get it. Higher taxes and higher debts are bad, and lower taxes and a balanced budget are good. Not rocket science.

A vote for Timmy Ryan is a vote for the ongoing destruction of the Mahoning Valley. If you strive to remain Detroit Junior, then keep voting for the Democratic-Socialists.

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3walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Why stop at twice $880B? Make it ten times! $8.8 trillion! To "fund" it, we could have the govt. confiscate all of the money from the "wealthy" individuals making over $250,000.

It's one thing when the govt gives each individual citizen $600 to put in their pocket and decide how to use it. It's quite another to target certain companies and bail them out from bad business practices. Or, when you target an industry, like road and bridge building, over and above what is normally done, you create an artificial demand that creates overcapacity in the supply of construction jobs and equipment.

Vote for Little Timmy Ryan and you will vote for a losing plan headed by Plastic Nancy that is going straight off the cliff!

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4Nospin(5 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Ladies and gentlemen, stop blaming Congressman Ryan and believing negative campaign ads.
Deficit: Together with the economic downturn, the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years (Congressional Budget Office).
Pelosi: Ryan has voted to preserve the right to bear arms and maintains an "A" rating from the NRA. Pelosi has voted in favor of gun control and has an "F" rating.

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5Progress(58 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Ryan has a D rating from Gun Owners of America, who unlike NRA, make available the formula and questions asked of a candidate seeking said endorsement. Thus, making the NRA endorsement questionable at best. I bet Nancy wont even let Timmy own a gun.

Graham, on the other hand, has a A rating from GOA.

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6Youngstown(19 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Obama contributed less than 20% of the deficit.

The tax base peaked in january 2006, 3 years before obama.

Every economic indicator - the purchasing managers index, new home sales, existing home sales, housing prices, real incomes, consumer sentiment, consumer confidence, capital expenditures by corporations - are ALL trending upward. Except unemployment, which is trending down.

Unfortunately, employment isn't returning as soon as we'd like - but give it time, employment is a lagging indicator.

To say the stimulus hasn't worked is a lie.

The stimulus should have been bigger. We can easily afford to pay the interest on $1T in debt.

Imagine an economy without the stimulus. We'd have calculated unemployment of 30% as opposed to 9.7%.

So get your facts straight.

And to say our Valley is being "destroyed" by Tim Ryan is narrow minded.

In the last year, we've had the largest jump in manufacturing in the nation.

In the last year, we've had one of the largest declines in unemployment in the nation.

Also -

Employee stock ownership plans, public schools, emergency services and newly paved roads are all "socialist".

Did your kids go to public school?

Do you have ownership in the company you work for? ESOP companies out perform non ESOP companies.

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7Nospin(5 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Nonsocialist:

The fact that our families are not waiting in a soup line for lunch is evidence that the stimulus worked. Tim mentions that the program was too small, because he sees how the valley (and all of Ohio, which is heavily a manufacturing state) has been hit particularly hard.

The former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, former President of the United States George W. Bush, President of the United States Barack Obama, and other world leaders have used Keynesian economics (fiscal policy) through government stimulus programs to attempt to assist the economic state of their countries.

We all want a balanced budget, but sometimes you've got to prime the engine before it will start.

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8eagleye(59 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Go to the goverment web site www.recovery.gov. Over $238 million has been spent in the 17th Congressional District (Ryans) and only about 228 jobs have been created. Most report NO jobs. Virtually NONE of these contracts and grants have been audited. The purpose of the stimulous was to create jobs...not just two day pothole patchers, but some actual jobs. It's a FARCE. The public has been shafted, lied to, screwed over, and duped by Ryan, his potential mother-in-law Pelosi, and Harry Reid and the rest of the minions who voted for this financial abortion. And Ryan thinks that MORE money needs to be spent? What's this clown smoking? The only shovel ready think I've seen is the dog crap on my yard.

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9Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

This is no game. The policies and actions of Democratic-Socialists like Timmy Ryan have resulted in much higher unemployment and much higher debt. I truly don't know if we can repair the damage they've done. Allowing them to infect our government any longer is National suicide.

If re-elected, they will continue the same failed policies, and maybe at a more vigorous pace as suggested by Democratic-Socialist Ryan. They appear interested in speeding up the destruction of America even further.

Nospin,

You're dangerously ignorant. No pump has been primed. It was pork...loyalties were repaid and palms were greased. Unemployment is higher after the porkulus bill and the debt is astronomically higher. If the goal of the porkulus bill was job creation (it wasn't), then it failed collosally. Your fellow countrymen need you to wise up fast. Be a part of the solution rather than advocating for the arsonists of America.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washi...

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2...

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10UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Tim Ryan is so left of liberal socialist it's not funny. His record of Tax & Spend then borrow to fund even more pork is unbelievable. How could anyone ever vote for this fool?

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11Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Here's the deal,..

Nancy Pelosi has absolutely nothing to do with the Youngstown electorate and Tim Ryan is unquestionably the best candidate to retain the position he holds,.. PERIOD !!!

To wit the laughable loon Jim Graham & comedic relief on release Ex con Jim Traficant. Are two of the most insignificant individuals than anyone could dare present as candidates for congress.

To go one further Jim Traficant { as deplorable as he and his record is }. Is even a more fitting mole candidate than a Jim Graham.

That's a statement of personal perspective that clarifies that it's those like a Mike Dewine, Jim Graham, Tracey Winbush, Jim Traficant, John Kasich, Rob Portman and Bill Johnson. That lets you know that predatory non intelligent life form does linger in the Valley and will dare try to prey upon your vote.

If you don't believe that dare try listening to their quackery and do a review of their records,.. AND IT WILL SOLIDIFY THAT AS MORE THAN ANY PARTISAN OPINION !!!

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12Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

What a campaign gift,..

To have those like ole witless Wally Slob_Shack, The socialist { nazi } Union-never, dimebag { dope boy } as anti Tim Ryan advocates.

Give a clear distinction to congressman Ryan not having anything in common with them at all. Those aforementioned are crazed clowns and if I were to ever run for office.

I'd be absolutely ecstatic for them to vocally express opposition. As to reveal that I have nothing to do with their way of non-thinking what so ever.

Keep the comments coming folks and do our parts in letting the voters distinguish who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't,.. the uninformed clearly aligns with the misleading.

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13Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

@ Youngstown & Nospin you're right,.. BUT FAR TOO KIND TO THESE LYING LOONS !!!

My method of diplomacy is a no nonsense direct approach of telling these loons to stop lying,.. HERE'S TO SHUTTING THEM UP !!!

Lets introduce congressman Tim Ryan,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5wEpe...

Let voters see how he feels about their kids,... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrMvop...

The stimulus that was passed was smaller than president Obama and the democratic congress wanted. But they pared it down as to not have it filibustered by the republicans obstructionist agenda. But even then this smaller version of the economic recovery stimulus bears an incredible distinction,.. what distinction is that you ask?

LETS FACTUALLY GET INTO IT:

Sure any federal stimulus would require adding to the inherited Bush republican's deficit. It's recovery spending and the Obama and democrat stimulus worked so well that get this,.. my Fellow Americans.

The president Obama and democratic congress governance Stimulus plan. Factually produced more private sector job growth in recovery effort than Bush and the republicans in Bush & Cheney's entire eight years,.. THAT'S FACT !!!

See granted for the unemployed it's been slow. But they need to KNOW that it was and IS being purposely obstructed by REPUBLICANS,.. THEY DON'T WANT THE RECOVERY TO HAPPEN AND ESPECIALLY NOT BY HAVING THE POPULOUS REALIZE WHO ROBBED THEM !!!

Now for the visually impaired lets say that again,... THIS PRESIDENT OBAMA AND DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY CONGRESS. FACTUALLY PRODUCED MORE PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS. THAN THE GEORGE BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS DID IN THE ENTIRE EIGHT YEARS OF THE BUSH PRESIDENCY AND ROBBERY BASED REPUBLICAN RULERSHIP REIGN !!!.

Here's to DOCUMENTING that:

It was projected by midyear,.. http://newsone.com/nation/news-one-st...

It wasn't widely covered,.. http://www.politicalruminations.com/2...

Now it's FACT beyond fiction,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsM8F0...

THERE'S A CLEAR DIFFERENCE HERE:

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14Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

CONCLUSION AND NO ILLUSION :

Here's to the verifiable FACTS,.. with audio and Visuals.

Here's what was foretold by the president,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDkvF7...

Now here's who opposed as a faction,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWTam1...

Here's to the presidents intent of it's success,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B90BoI...

Remember who were so DETERMINED to have GM and Chrysler fold,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3dLA...

SO WHY IS THERE A LYING CAMPAIGN?

Because the racist Teabaggers hate that " Black Guy " president and Tim Ryan, is working with improvement with that colored.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEDuXy...

Locally the impact is this,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IS3LA...

It's NOT just cars either,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T21qU...

Who's one of the local leaders?,.. THEY'RE NOT REPUBLICANS !!!

Sherrod Brown,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY_DAj...

Tim Ryan,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxBdtV...

Jay Williams,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAzCUd...

IN CONTRAST:,.. Jim Who?

Let everybody listen to that lying and listless Jim Graham clown for themselves { as a candidate } ,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tCrtT...

So just show them that to dare try to tout a Jim Graham or a Jim Traficant to unseat a Tim Ryan is self defeatist, ludicrous and Hilarious,... AND THAT'S CONCLUSIVE FACT !!!

See NOW surely I'll await their attempt at responding and I'll turn this into an even bigger laugher,.. ROTFFLMAO !!!

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15Woody(451 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Bill Johnson is the CIO of a half-billion dollar international manufacturing company. I think he is more qualified for Congress, then when young Timmy took over for the Traf-man. I know, Bill is running against Charlie Wilson.

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16eagleye(59 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Nunya, you're a delusional ahole.

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17APlaw(45 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Ryan is nothing more than a corrupt criminal that couldn't think his way out of a paper bag. His background would prevent him from holding any other government job and his lack of qualifications wouldn't land him a job as a McDonald's head fry guy.

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18Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Oh Woody,..

You shouldn't have mentioned Bill Johnson because see he's an even bigger fools gold candidate than Jim Graham is. See in a word Bill Johnson is a,.. FRAUD !!!

Of course that is unless you'd prefer he be recognized as a lying imported snake that established residence in the area. Solely to try to seize access to defrauding the Ohio Congressional 6th District seat. That congressman Charlie Wilson holds and now Bill Johnson is revealing he was sent to try to seize,.. HE'S ESTABLISHED RESIDENCY IN THE STATE 4 YEARS AGO TO DO IT !!!

Hence NOW that you've mentioned that treacherous old Teabagger. Lets just say we take a good look at ole bamboozling Bill Johnson, so the people can decide a bit for themselves,.. shall we?

See Bill Johnson is a 56 year old transient. Whom aligned in a republican retaliatory group called " The Young Guns ",.. yeah I know " Young " complete with SNOW WHITE HAIR AND ALL !!!

Here read this,.. http://www.nrcc.org/default.asp?id=27...

It's a preface about ole BS Billy boy and how he was planted in Ohio solely as a political operative. To take part in trying to stop the economic recovery. That he and other republicans created a necessity for the Obama administration and democratic congress to take measures to repair,..

See he { Bill Johnson } joined a guy named Charles Schley in 2001 and started an outfit called the Johnson-Schley Management Group. Which was a consulting outfit out of Colorado and had Dick Nachman and Ron Bettencourt as software and IT heads,.. a.k.a. OUTSOURCE CENTRAL !!!.

Yes now ole Billy is a C I O which means he's only a Chief Information Officer { A.K.A. Mouthpiece }. Which means he doesn't run nor own jack. He advises on outsourcing and he's got a " attaboy " position from having been a conduit to getting current and prior government contracts as a kickback,.. THAT'S COMING TO A HALT !!!

As Chief Information Officer for Stoneridge, Inc which has been around since 1965 in the automotive and transportation industry supplier.

Which is a local outfit that Bill Johnson wouldn't even be making a dime from had president Obama and congressman Charlie Wilson's supportive vote hadn't saved the U.S. auto industry,.. DID YOU KNOW THAT?

Remember who supported that saving measure?,.. CHARLIE WILSON,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7nSZP...

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19Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

PART II

So see Bill Johnson is no genuine businessman. He's a fraud flinster that's alleging to be anti government but hasn't made a dime that wasn't government supplied,.. HE'S A WALKING CONFLICT TO PRACTICALLY EVERYTHING HE PROCLAIMS !!!

See he's retired military and after 26 years or so of no combat service. Whom after uniformed employment he went into computer services at corporate service level IT. To contract information data basing via government contracts,.. an electronic file keeping fluke.

So now in his post military service era and launching his lie like Hell campaign. Now he's trying everything from falsely hailing himself as an economist, health care expert, environmentalist, jobs providing guru and even supposed to be a constitution scholar,.. BILL JOHNSON IS NONE OF THAT !!! .

See truth is his record reveals his effort is now prompted by trying to protect the tax breaks he's orchestrated and personally profiting from. For all the jobs he and his cohorts has outsourced to Mexico and China for slave labor costs,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUfKfL...

He doesn't give a damn about anybody but himself. By now feeling a need to try protecting his outsourced contracts off government money. See that's because now that there's an Obama administration and democratic majority congress that's not favoring the republican protocol of financially rewarding outsourcing of services jobs out of the country.

For which congressman Charlie Wilson agrees to stopping that. So ole Billy boy Johnson needs to join the Teabaggers and allege he's pro American in hopes of not being forced to bring those jobs back or face competition that will and will sink his personal profit picnic,.. Understand?

Bill Johnson's campaign funding is being provided by the same " unnamed " sources that's coming from corporate and overseas contributors. Whom the outsourcing of American jobs that those like self serving Billy boy and his owners are providing them in return for slave labor expense,.. ASK HIM TO TELL YOU ANY DIFFERENT !!!

So see we can go further into this however as a matter of diplomacy and cordial courtesy. Lets see what you'd like to say about him before we proceed to being more candid about his cloaked kleptomania based candidacy,.. I'll AWAIT !!!.

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20theCaliforniaKid(56 comments)posted 3 years, 11 months ago

Elect James Traficant, AMERICA'S CONGRESSMAN

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