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Traficant loses out in bid to win speedy county support for casino



Published: Fri, October 15, 2010 @ 12:05 a.m.

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Ex-U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant Jr.

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Mahoning County Commissioner Anthony Traficanti

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Dave Ludt

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Mahoning County Commissioner John McNally

By David Skolnick

skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Too much uncertainty and a lack of details led Mahoning County commissioners to reject James A. Traficant Jr.’s plea to immediately endorse his proposed Indian gambling casino in North Jackson.

“We should proceed with a little more caution,” said Commissioner Anthony Traficanti, who used to work for Traficant when the latter was a congressman. “The devil is in the details. We should learn a little more.”

Traficant, who is running as an independent candidate in the 17th Congressional District, spoke Thursday to the commissioners about a proposed Indian gambling casino, hotel, convention center, bank and possibly an indoor amusement park in North Jackson on the corner of Bailey Road and Mahoning Avenue.

Indian gambling casinos aren’t permitted in the Mahoning Valley under state or federal law.

During the 40 minutes that Traficant spoke to and took questions from the commissioners, he never explained his urgency in having en endorsement resolution OK’d Thursday.

It’s been about eight months since Traficant last raised the issue of the proposed Indian casino.

“I need you; I need you to step forward,” he urged the commissioners.

Traficant said he acted as an “agent” for the Itana [Indigenous Tribal Affiliates of Native America] Indian Nation in Provo, Utah, and Munsee Delaware Indian Nation USA in Cambridge, Ohio, which recently bought 20-plus acres of land in North Jackson for $1.

Traficant not only wanted the commissioners to approve a resolution of support Thursday, he also urged them to vote in favor of sending a recommendation to Gov. Ted Strickland asking him to back the proposal.

Even though Commissioner David Ludt, a friend of Traficant’s, and Traficanti, a friend and former longtime Traficant employee, are on the board of commissioners, the commissioners refused to vote on either proposal Thursday.

“We’re going to hold off a while and get more information,” Ludt said.

Traficant didn’t bother to stick around to hear the commissioners’ decision to not support his resolutions.

Commissioner John A. McNally said he learned a lot from Traficant’s presentation, but he still needs more information before he could consider resolutions.

One main issue, McNally said, was there aren’t any federally-recognized tribes in Ohio that can apply for a federal gaming license.

Also, he said, voters passed a state constitutional amendment last year that permits casino gambling in specific locations in Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland and Toledo and nowhere else.

Traficant claims an 1813 treaty between the Munsee tribe and the United States gives that nation “standing” in Ohio.

According to websites about the Munsee Delaware Indians, the tribe has lived in many states over its history, including Ohio.

Also, Jackson Township trustees expressed concern about the proposal at the commissioners’ meeting.

Chuck Booth, the trustees chairman, said he wants to “see a lot more than talk. I’d like to see plans.”

Traficant will discuss the proposal further at Jackson’s trustees meeting at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday at the township hall, 10613 Mahoning Ave.

The commissioners will attend the trustees’ meeting.

Despite the obstacles, Traficant said, “This will happen. These naysayers are insignificant.”


Comments

1glbtactivist(261 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Who would want an ex-con to be their agent to set up a casino? Those so called indians aren't even part of a legitimate tribe. Once again Traficant is running a con on the public.

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2author50(1121 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Didn't Traficant's great-great-grandfather sell the Munsee Tribe alcohol?

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3Attis(922 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

A bit of a history lesson for those who think the Munsee Delaware Nation has no legitimate claim to Ohio land. The Lenape (Delaware), headed by their chief Netawatawees, established residency west of the Alleghenies centuries ago. The chief alloted land along the Tuscawaras River to Moravian missionaries at Gnadenhutten in 1772. The feds slaughtered them in 1782; took their chief to Fort Pitt to die (be murdered?); and renamed his compound Newcomerstown since no European invader could pronounce his real name. Time for the feds to repent and show as much compassion for their descendants as their ancestors showed the first Europeans to arrive in these parts.

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4AKAFR1(322 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Attis...I am glad that someone in this discussion has some intelligence.

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5Wapiti(139 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Jimbo should really have some actual American Indians on his side. Not one of the people in the TV clips are enrolled in a Federally recognized Tribe. The Indian Nations he is associated with have no Federal recognition. It appears only the Federal government gets to say who is American Indian or not. And it is AMERICAN INDIAN. NOT Native American. OH, and please DON'T ask Ron Gerberry anything about Indians. He says there were NEVER ANY AMERICAN INDIANS in Ohio.

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6arteesto(22 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Pat Mackondy tried to get a casino in Youngstown including an Indian Casino.
All the necessary specifics were worked out, however, a COMPACT signed by the Ohio state governor was needed and Taft (gov. at the time) also refused to sign it. When Strickland got elected, he also wouldn't sign the COMPACT. Perhaps Jim Traficant has worked something out with governor Strickland....however, Ohio still has a republican led house and senate that opposes development of an Indian Casino in Ohio and can over ride the COMPACT with a two thirds majority vote
against the Indian Casino. An Indian Casino in our state is a whole different ball game than the already approved 4 casinos in Ohio.....The Indian Casino would be allowed with a Governor approved COMPACT and no opposition from the Ohio state legislators.

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7Silence_Dogood(1388 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Maybe NUNYA should get together with JIMBO THE CLOWN .He claims to be part native American, maybe he can run the Casino, heck he allready speaks with a forked tongue.

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8commyliberal(94 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Thank you Attis & Theguins for the Native American history behind the area tribes. I believe there is some legitimate claim to lands that were the historical homes to Native Americans who originated in this area. How the state of Ohio can "claim" no recognized tribes is a farce.

I don't support casinos and find the idea of Jimbo having a hand in ANYTHING repugnant. I find the state of Ohio position to be rather repugnant as well. It is all just a way to keep from taking any ownership in the wholesale destruction of another culture. I suppose until we can all take some ownership in our part in the genocide of the First Nations of this United States, we will never learn the lessons needed to live together in peace harmony and respect for one another.

PS: Yes I believe we should be paying reparations to African Americans for the slave era. Who can deny the contribution these people made to the growth & prosperity of our nation? What did they receive for their labor? Welfare is a poor substitute for cold hard cash.

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9walter_sobchak(1982 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Silence_Dogood
A pox upon you and your house, kind sir, for attempting to engage the grammatically and etymologically-challenged reprobate in discussion.

Everyone knows that the one true tribe in Ohio was scalped by the Atlanta Braves in the 1995 World Series.

Commyliberal:
I, too, support reparations for any person who was a slave. Have that particular person put in a claim to the federal government.

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10redvert(2100 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

commieliberal said; Yes I believe we should be paying reparations to African Americans for the slave era. Who can deny the contribution these people made to the growth & prosperity of our nation? What did they receive for their labor? Welfare is a poor substitute for cold hard cash.

As walter referred to, how many slaves are receiving welfare? none! I will tell you what the slaves received for their labor, their descendants grew up in this country where they have had the opportunity to excel as many have instead of running around Africa with a bone stuck through their noses. Understood that the subspecies we have on especially the southside would be a embarrassment to their ancestors.

Get off of this whiney-azz "gimmie gimmie" mentality and stand up on your own two feet like the rest of humanity.

ps: If you believe in reparations, go ahead and select somebody and start paying up!

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11Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

North Jackson !~!!!!!! It is all trash anyway who would care . C@RP in C@AP . Build it

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