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Valley voters buck trend, but it’s not enough



Published: Wed, November 3, 2010 @ 12:09 a.m.

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Ohio Gov.-elect John Kasich celebrates a victory during the Ohio Republican Party celebration, Wednesday, Nov. 3, 2010, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)

Race

Governor

John Kasich
Republican
1849842 votes
David Sargent
None
864 votes
Ted Strickland
Democrat
1752790 votes
Ken Matesz
Libertarian
89449 votes
Dennis S Spisak
Green
56797 votes
Race

Attorney General

Mike DeWine
Republican
1782821 votes
Marc A Feldman
Libertarian
104554 votes
Robert Owens
Constitution
127081 votes
Richard Cordray
Democrat
1714972 votes

By David Skolnick

skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Voters in Mahoning and Trumbull counties came out strongly for most Democratic statewide voters, but it wasn’t enough for any of them.

With 94.8 percent of the statewide vote reported, every statewide Democrat on the ticket was losing.

Except for Chief Justice Eric Brown of the Ohio Supreme Court and Mary Jane Trapp for a Supreme Court seat, every Democrat on the statewide ticket won in Mahoning County. Every statewide Democrat won in Trumbull County except Chief Justice Brown. Judicial candidates in Ohio run in partisan primaries, but don’t have party affiliations in the general election.

Mahoning and Trumbull are two of the most Democratic counties in Ohio. Democrats outnumber Republicans among registered voters in those two counties more than 4 to 1.

Democrats outnumber Republicans among registered voters in Columbiana County almost 2 to 1 with a majority of voters there not affiliated with either party.

Every Democratic candidate lost in Columbiana County.

“The results were absolutely astounding to me,” said Dave Johnson, Columbiana County Republican chairman. “The [Republican] candidates worked their heads off, but I must confess, I didn’t expect this much of a plurality. It’s the independents who decide. I’m not gloating. The races were hard fought. The nation is fed up with high taxes, reckless spending and anything that’s liberal.”

Gov. Ted Strickland, who represented Columbiana County in the U.S. House for four years, lost to Republican John Kasich in that county 48.3 percent to 47 percent. It was the closest statewide race in Columbiana County.

Strickland received 65.6 percent of the vote in Mahoning County and 61.4 percent in Trumbull County.

In Strickland’s 2006 victory, he received 75.6 percent of the Mahoning County vote, 74.1 percent in Trumbull and 66 percent in Columbiana.

“It was not a good night,” said Mahoning County Democratic Chairman David Betras said of Tuesday.

Betras had promised 80 percent of the Mahoning County vote to Strickland before the election.

“Republicans came out more than Democrats did,” he said. “Our people sat home and their people came out. I hope the Republicans won’t forget the Valley. We did what we could to make sure we weren’t forgotten. I don’t know if we fit into John Kasich’s economic model.”

Statewide, Kasich was ahead 49.8 percent to 46.2 percent for Strickland with 94.8 percent of the vote counted.

Shortly after 12:30 a.m. today, Strickland conceded the gubernatorial race to Kasich.

Attorney General Richard Cordray, a Democrat, trailed Republican Mike DeWine 48.4 percent to 45.4 percent with 94.8 percent of the vote counted.

In Mahoning, Cordray beat DeWine 65.2 percent to 29.9 percent.

Cordray won 61.3 percent to 32.8 percent in Trumbull with DeWine winning in Columbiana County 48.6 percent to 43.7 percent.


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1FightingInTheWarRoom(7 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

I was stuck between a rock and a hard place. I can't morally vote for a republican, and the democrats are useless and ineffective.

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2crafty(16 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

I've been a registered democrat all of my voting life, but I just couldn't cast my vote for any of them this time. They have failed us miserably!

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3faith(200 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Strickland won Governor of the year for three straight years. He is a good person that actually cared about this valley. Now we will have a wall st guy outsourcing our jobs. Fair and unequal; your benefits will not be restored and you will vote for the republicants anyway, you are a piece of ...

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4faith(200 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Dewine? Really? WOW, Ohio voters are nuts! Another millionaire that don't care about regular folks.

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5NYR1(19 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

It is going to be fun to see if anyone has the guts to step out of line and call for Betras' head.

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6faith(200 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Betras did his job, he should get a raise.

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7mrblue(963 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Seriously-----is anyone surprised on how the valley voted-----as opposed to the rest of the state?

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8JAYSBIRD(1 comment)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

The valley votes are just a bunch of dupes....I grew up here and left 50 yrs ago to join the Navy. Now I'm back taken care of my aged parents. When I left this area was a thriving economy, now it is the worst depress place in the state. Gee who was in charge politically all that time...Hmmm Democrats mostly. They have lined their pockets getting re-elected continually but never ever benefited the area. Steel mills left, jobs left, businesses left, depressed housing market, empty union halls or demolished, and its always been laid on Republicans, maybe it should have been placed at the feet of POLITICIANS..hmmmm, who lie and say anything to get re-elected/elected. Can't keep giving away the working mans money to those who don't want to work and only stand around with their hand out. Get rid of the useless welfare rolls and get people back to work and self respect.

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

"With 94.8 percent of the statewide vote reported, every statewide Democrat on the ticket was losing."

The Valley is a place where time forgot . Just as been said many time before the liberal candidates know that they don't have to deliver on promises because they will get the votes no matter how the voters are treated .

Local leaders will continue to favor handouts over prosperity . Those addicted to handouts will never get enough and clamor for more . Those who are destroying the neighborhoods will continue to do so until they are forced to work for their money . What else can they do with all that idle time ?

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10ojanet22(134 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Democrats weren't responsible for the demise of the steel mills. All the rest is a result of the demise of the steel mills. What happens when you get rid of welfare? It's easy to say do this and do that but much more difficult to implement.

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11TylerDurden(367 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

"I don’t know if we fit into John Kasich’s economic model."

The Mahoning valley doen't fit into anyone's economic model. I see posts here still lamenting the demise of the steel industry here. That was 4 decades ago and somehow it still affects the local economy? 4 decades has been more than enough time for other steel cities to CHANGE and adjust to the future. Not here.

Faith: You are truly a champion. I am happy you are a part of my society. You want a raise for Betras, you call the govenor a "Wall St. guy" and you don't even know what that means. Let me give you a quick lesson in our economy. Wall St. creates jobs. You obviously don't have one, so no worries. Keep your Strickland posters up. He was Gov. of the year for 3 years, whatever the hell that even means. You cause me illness with your blatant lack of any intelligence and obvious hatred of english grammar. Make sure you thank a taxpayer every night for the benefits you clearly receive. Calmer than you are dude.

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12walter_sobchak(1831 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Yes, Ted Strickland was indeed governor of the year for the state of Ohio for the last three years. Nice guy but didn't have a clue about being the governor. Well, at least Betras delivered the 80% vote from Mahoning County that he promised he would deliver. I'm sure he will now have plenty of free time to chase even more ambulances.

F*** it, dude! Let's go bowling.

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13StopCrying(1 comment)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

TylerDurden, great post. Couldn't agree more with you. What confuses me is that your screen name doesn't coincide with your beliefs. Haha. Great movie though.
I grew up in this area and left to go to this wonderful thing called college. Of course during my stint in college and because of Valley up-bringing, I tended to have liberal ideas. It wasn't until I began to progress in my career that I realized how badly i had been brain washed with the "Valley's ideals".
The glory days are over folks. Move on, work hard, adapt or be forgotten. Does the fact of our trillion dollar defecit owned mostly by China not serve as motivation enough. Do you believe in entitlement or do you believe things come to those who work work hard?
I want to paste this quote to sum up how I feel but I can not remember who said it, sorry for not properly citing it.

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”
The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
• From bondage to spiritual faith;
• From spiritual faith to great courage;
• From courage to liberty;
• From liberty to abundance;
• From abundance to complacency;
• From complacency to apathy;
• From apathy to dependence;
• From dependence back into bondage.

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14najjjj(106 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

I have come to believe a politician, is a politician, is a politician. I have come to believe it does not matter what party they disguise themselves in. This country is a mess. From jobs, to education, to drugs, to crime, to morality, and on and on and on. I have come to believe we are so broken as a nation I have very little hope it can be fixed. My husband has never been without a job in the 35 yrs. we have been married. He was laid of over a month ago. His job sent to India by his company......the super patriot-war mongering Lockheed-Martin. Soon we will not be able to afford the 1200 a month Cobra is costing us. I cannot get private insurance because of pre existing conditions. Soon we will not be able to get our medications. I know this sounds like whining.......it's not. It's sadness and frustration that after all these years of struggling, saving, raising a family, and hard work this is what it comes to. It is a reflection of our nation, and it makes me so very sad. All we have done is sent more of the same to Washingtion, they may be dressed in different party suits but we will just get more of the same. Our government is about who has more, and keeping it at the cost of all others.......especially the middle class.

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15faith(200 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

TylerDurden, you really think Wall Street creates jobs? 84% of the money invested in Wall Street is held by the top two(2)% of the wealthiest people. Ya, I was told that if they continue to make more money then they will trickle it down on us working folks. That has not happened. I find it amusing that the republicants are worried about the debt, yet want to let the wealthiest to continue to receive tax credits. Who will pay for the tax credits. You ignorance is unbelievable. Working people create jobs. You see, when working folks have disposable income they go out and buy stuff. If people are not working, or they are working for little on no wages, they can not spend any money. Then the business' cant make any money because no one is buying their stuff. It is called "consumer spending" and it represents the largest part of our economy. I learned this in econ 101 and tried to put it in your 3rd grade language.

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16faith(200 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

FYI, Betras does not get paid for his Dem Chair job, it was a joke, of course you would need an education to understand this. Sorry I confused you.

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17Realist(62 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Unions killed the steel mills! Not a political party.

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18faith(200 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Please realist, the steel mills left for our global economy. It is not like we quit using steel, we just quit using steel made in the USA. The unions did not help the situation, but the companies were also greedy. To blame "the unions" is wrong. The fact is, we can bring jobs back to the Valley. The fact is we DID bring jobs back to the Valley and this is why Ted carried Mahoning and Trumbull.

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19ValleyNative(174 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Ohio: the redder, the better!

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20piak(508 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Interesting commentaries alright. Being as how a lot of talk is partly economic and partly sociological, maybe someone might let us know this: Has any poor man ever HIRED anyone...ever?

During one of the steel strikes years ago, I was on picket duty with my dad. I told him, "We'll show the company! We'll win out and get what we want." My dad said, "What the hell do you know? You read books in college and you still dumb. What if company shut down? The Union going to give you a job?"

Does the evil rich include George Soros or Bill Gates , the Pelosi's or Ariana Huffington?

What's the alternative to elections and alternating parties in the government? Does anyone really want some graduate of a military academy with some political science knowledge to decide HE will be the answer? Maybe get what he wants by applying "a taste of the lash" to us to get our attention? As in DICTATORSHIP? Me-I don't want any of that...and no rational person does either. Nor is one party rule good anywhere, local or nationally.

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21georgejeanie(754 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

What could anyone expect from the "Valley"? under educated, under employed, if at all, lack of common sense, rampant crime, union mentality, corrupt politicians, corrupt business people, such as Monus, Cafaro, business people who bring in 95% of their merchandise from China, such as fireworks, and then gets on Chamber of Commerce president for voicing another opinion. These are truly all the qualifications for a great revival of the "Valley".

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22valleyred(1093 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Hey Faith.... Charlie Wilson ran on the whole outsourcing nonsense and did you see it doesn't work anymore?? He lost by 6% points, or around 10,000 votes.

A huge reason jobs are outsourced is because labor costs, in a large part from unions, are hurting the business climate in this nation. The unions are known for being greedy, and maybe if they were a bit more realistic, we wouldn't have lost so many jobs overseas.

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23Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

"From dependence back into bondage."

Depenence is bondage ! Far too many in The Valley are locked in ! Manufacturing jobs making goods for export need to be generated ASAP ! Let us develop real wealth !

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24Traveler(606 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

democrats will continue to lose until ether the republicans go large government and corruption like the did under bush or democrats realize most people want to help people by giving hands ups to those truly in need not just blank hands out for life

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25valleyred(1093 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Here is my post-election wrap-up:
http://mvred.com/index.php/archives/n...

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26mrblue(963 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

The valley Democrats voted----------a Republican won--------------do the math. Tim Ryan is really going to have to work now------since he survived the slaughter.

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27300(553 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Censorship, where are you coming up with this GATT talk? I've seen others on here mentioning it as well.

It's obvious that you don't know what GATT even is, or when it came about.

Also, a "republic" is a form of "democracy." To say that we live in a Republic, not a Democracy is like saying saying I drive a Camry, not an automobile. Kind of silly. A Republic is a "representative democracy", as opposed to a "direct democracy."

You make more good points than the average poster on here, but you need to read up a bit about GATT. And the whole republic thing makes you look bad.

Democrats failed for two inherent reasons: 1. the Democratic party is very heterogeneous, so forming a strong voting bloc like the GOP is nearly impossible, and 2. they always think that they can win based on the facts, as opposed to the GOP who realize that branding is everything when it comes to winning elections.

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28Silence_Dogood(1304 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Faith
You asked the following question,
"TylerDurden, you really think Wall Street creates jobs?"

Well lets see, people buy stocks in a Company, and what do you think the Company does with that money. Could it be that they use that money to buy equiptment so they can build a widget. But that might creat a problem, who would they get to operate that machine that they bought to make a widget. HMMMM. Maybe that could hire a PERSON to operate that machine.
WOW You really are clueless and operating on faith alone, no brain required.

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29tnmartin(183 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Proving, yet again, that the people of the Valley (Remember when it was called the 'Steel Valley'??) would vote for the Devil himself, horns, tail, pitchfork and all, if he was an endorsed Democrat. Fact is, they darn near have, several times. How many times have I heard a notorious scoundrel, a vile chunk of barely human garbage, touted as "a good friend of the working man". No, he was a good friend (or sales agent for) the "working girls", need some examples?
Why SHOULD the Democrap bosses from elsewhere throw us a bone or two? They've got the votes already!
Why SHOULD the pubbies give a hand? they'll never get the votes, so long as the deadheads here have "a moral stance against voting Republican". so why bother?
it has been sad to watch the destruction of this area, It has been sad to watch the creeps and liars who helped destroy it - the union bosses, environazis,liberal fascists, and other creeps - idolized. It has been sad to see the abandonment of good sense that gave us Commuter Aircraft Corp;., Airship Enterprises, pushes for casinos of all kinds, and, eventually, legalized brothels I suppose.
Sad. Predictable. And so pointless.
So wave your "union forever" banners, and vote the straight Donkey party ticket. And continue to bury the region.

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30SkyKing310B(253 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

@Faith- you are the one whose ignorance is unbelievable. You may have taken Econ 101, but you either didn't pay attention or you didn't open the book.

If you look at the tax code, you will find that the tax credits get phased out at around $150-180K. At this level, you lose the child tax credit, the education credits, the Child care credits, dependency deductions and itemized deductions start being phased out. Also, the Alternative Minimum Tax becomes very important because, thanx to your Dem friends, this is an additional tax that kicks in because the gov't doesn't feel you are paying enough already!

The Only tax credits that higher income earners have are the ones that create jobs. Investment credits for plant, equipment, research & development, etc. If you want to take these away too, the whole country will start to look like this valley. BTW, aside from the few hundred jobs at Lordstown and V & M, where are all these jobs that Teddy brought to the valley. If you keep up on current events, you'll find that we lost more jobs than he supposedly helped create.

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31hankchanaski(29 comments)posted 3 years, 7 months ago

its funny for republicans to talk about nafta and gatt like they were against these trade deals. lets play pretend and say they were, why is it then that they didnt repeal these trade deals? they had both houses of congress and the whitehouse. unions killed the steel industry? corporate greed killed the steel industry. corporate greed is killing middle america.

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