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Boardman authorities confront crime concerns



Published: Thu, May 6, 2010 @ 12:00 a.m.

By Denise Dick

Boardman authorities confront crime concerns

By DENISE DICK

denise_dick@vindy.com

BOARDMAN

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Lynn Kirkwood, left, and Susan Sweeney, vice president and president, respectively, of the Forest Glen Homeowners’ Association, stand next to the marker designating their neighborhood a historic district. Residents of both the Forest Glen and the Newport Glen historic areas expressed worries to Boardman trustees last week about increased crime. The township has a plan to address it and educate all residents about how to protect themselves.

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Glen area map

Extra police visibility and teaching residents to protect themselves are some ways the township plans to address concerns of increased crime voiced by Glen residents.

Police Chief Jack Nichols issued a list of activities planned by police and the township to address concerns of all township residents.

“If we have people in the Glen who are concerned and afraid to leave their houses, we have to address that,” Nichols said.

At a trustees meeting last week, about 40 residents of the Forest Glen and Newport Glen historic areas expressed worries about increased crime and other problems in the neighborhood of upscale homes near the township’s north end.

In one incident, a couple walking their dogs were approached by four youths, and one pulled a gun.

“We’re trying to establish an overall strategy for the township as we come into the summer months,” said Administrator Jason Loree. “We want to make sure we don’t let things get out of hand.”

The strategy addresses not only efforts to be undertaken by the township but also steps members of the public can take to help protect themselves, Loree said.

A public training event will be scheduled for June as part of the plan for all township residents to learn how to be street smart.

The Operating a Vehicle While Impaired Task Force will conduct additional operations involving 10 to 15 officers on Midlothian Boulevard, Market Street, Glenwood Avenue and Shields Road surrounding the Glen area.

“I think it’s definitely a step in the right direction,” said Susan Sweeney, president of the Forest Glen Homeowners’ Association.

The association has taken its own precautions to address problems including installing speed bumps on some streets and closing off Oak Knoll Drive at Brookwood Road.

Those measures were employed to both slow down traffic as well as limit it.

“It’s for safety,” Sweeney said.

She and her husband moved to the community about three years ago from the Chicago area.

“We drove through here, and I knew this is where I wanted to live,” Sweeney said.

Neighbors all know one another and watch out for each other. They schedule neighborhood play groups for children, family picnics and Bunco games.

“It’s the neighbors that make a neighborhood good,” Sweeney said.

Her neighborhood is made up of good people, she said.

“It’s good that the police and the township know that we’re holding up the north end of Boardman,” Sweeney said.

Increased zoning enforcement and cleaning up the corner field of Glenwood and Midlothian to reduce foot traffic and trespassing are some of the other courses of action that are planned.

Sweeney said that many people walking through the neighborhood, intimidating residents, come from that overgrown field.

“We are all committed as a neighborhood to making this a zero-tolerance area,” she said. “The police will be called no matter what.”


A public training event will be offered in June to all township residents instructing them on how to be street- smart. It will teach them how to protect themselves and to think like thugs.

Extra police visibility, more patrols will be added to high activity areas of the township.

The Operating a Vehicle While Impaired Task Force will conduct additional operations involving 10 to 15 officers on Midlothian Boulevard, Market Street, Glenwood Avenue and Shields Road surrounding the Glen area — at little or no cost to the township.

Two additional police officers will be hired, which will step up narcotics enforcement.

The township will invite any neighborhood or condominium association to elect a liaison to work directly with police to try to resolve issues.

Increasing zoning enforcement, the zoning office is at full staff and increased enforcement is on the rise.

The township is going to develop a plan to clean up the corner field at Glenwood and Midlothian to help reduce foot traffic and trespassing.

Source: Boardman police


Comments

1Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Note for future homebuyers: Never buy a home in a suburb which borders Youngstown. Instead of extra police, they should build a 30 foot wall to keep the thugs from Youngstown away.

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2truehockeyfan(6 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I hope that none of the people demanding more police presence in Boardman have ever commented in a derogatory way about the police in Poland. I've seen many of those comments on this site. It would be rather hypocritical! As a Poland resident, I love seeing all the police cars!

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3boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Hope, people like you need to leave. Constantly referring to Boardman as "Drugman" and spouting negativity.

Its people like the Glen residents who want to fight for their neighborhoods that I admire, not the ones who sit in their houses behind a keyboard and complain that the police aren't at their beck and call. I will be at the June public trianing event to assist in anything that keeps our streets and neighborhoods safe. Hopefully you will change your negative attitude and show up to learn something as well, and start putting POSITIVE ACTION into your community instead of NEGATIVE COMMENTS.

And if your house has been broken into three times, it just makes me think that you associate with the wrong crowd. Someone must know you have something of value and you are a sucker if they got you three times. Perhaps you should look into your family and friends for the perpetrator.

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4dasani1971(22 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Only a matter of time before Boardman becomes Youngstown. Fact.

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5dasani1971(22 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Every year the crime gets a little higher, Every year the thugs get a little braver, Every year the property prices are dropping. Sad to say but boardman will be like Youngstown sooner than people think.

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6boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

"And Boardman's finest will cover it up Just more money in their pockets."

- Hope4thevalley

And you wonder why they don't want to come and help find the people who break into your house.

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7walter_sobchak(1950 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

My wife and I always dreamed of living in the Glen. Great layout, landscaping, architecture. But, when we took off our rose-colored glasses, we could clearly see the crime-riddled streets of Youngstown. We had an old uncle that would always say that you shouldn't live within walking distance of these areas and he was sadly correct. This is why you live on the west side of Mill Creek Park and not on the east side. The park is a GREAT natural barrier. That's why we ended up moving to Canfield long ago when it was reasonably affordable. A strict community with zero tolerance for those, as Judge Smails said, that don't "follow the rules of a decent society"!

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8shutyourface(246 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wow I agree with whoever said look into your freinds or family robbing your house hope4thevalley 3 times. Someone got you fooled.Boardman has been heading this way for year's now no stopping it.

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9boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Why dont you take your HARDWORKING behind down to the station and tell the police what you think of them, nutjob. They put their butts on the line arresting trash that trickles in here from youngstown because there is nothing left to steal down there, and you complain that they are all on the take? Get a life.

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10dd933(243 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

It will just keep getting worse as long as we keep sprawling to the edge of the urbanized area - as the middle class move farther out the blight from the central city expands and guess what - the glen is next in line.

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11city_resident(513 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

"It will just keep getting worse as long as we keep sprawling to the edge of the urbanized area - as the middle class move farther out the blight from the central city expands and guess what - the glen is next in line."

IMO, this is exactly right. What happened to Youngstown is now happening to Boardman, and people are surprised, for some reason. As long as people continue to avoid the problem by moving further out, the problem will continue to spread.

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12seminole(476 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

All,

Susan, I commend your efforts and concerns but I have to be honest: do you really believe that one meeting with the powers that be is really going to create the law enforcement that is needed in the Glen? I live in the Glen and we have been voicing our concerns for 10 years and nothing has been done. The speed "humps" on Overhill? That is a joke in itself. The township stepped in that while doing the project and made the humps basically non-invasive, allowing the idiots that speed down the street to continue to do so, without concern for children playing or people that are backing out of their driveways. I have personally had numerous conversations with officers as they sat in driveways and saw them allow people to go 35 mph in a 25 mph zone. Why? The judges don't want to see ticket cases in their court for 10 mph or less over the speed limit. Plus, as one officer told my wife, they have to make the stop, get out of the car, go back, run the license and plates, go back to the car, you know, all that time consuming physically taxing work that is part of their $60,000/year job. And what is the "think like a thug" comment? You mean, I can roll down my driveway and blast these punks with my softball bat? Sounds good to me! Marshall Law, let's take back the neighborhood on our own. THAT is what they are telling us; we will give you "training" to protect yourselves, now go out and take care of your neighborhood on your own. Hey, if I can ding a few of these creepers and be free from prosecution I'll take up watch every night and patrol the streets. Boardman has sat back for all the years we have been complaining and done nothing. Now they want to teach us how to handle the issues on our own. Typical. And while the focus is catching shoplifters at Walmart (which taxes fund Poland, not Boardman) the trash and ghetto rolls down into our neighborhood. The horse is out of the barn, my friends. Do not be fooled by a promise of stepped-up patrols and presense. The trash infesting our neighborhood has no fear of the Boardman PD or any of it's so called laws and ordinances. How's that fantastic sound ordinance working that everyone was so amped up about three years ago? or the "local traffic only" sign on Overhill. What does local traffic only mean? Anyone living in Mahoning county? These are the simple, easlily enforceable laws that have never been enforced which allows issues to grow and trash to ruin what was once a beautiful neighborhood. And, good luck getting people to come out of their houses to keep an eye on their streets: they are disgusted with what they see, the trash driving through the neighborhood, the booming stereos that rattle the rusted trunks of the $200 cars they are in, the packs of kids walking down the middle of the street. But, if the Boardman PD is willing to teach us to think like thugs then I'm all over that. if it's street justice we need then it is street justice we shall have! Who's on deck?...

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13Rokscout(310 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Seminole,
Your long winded comment is so full of inaccuracies and misinformation it is almost laughable. I will bet anything that NO Boardman police officer told you they "didn't want to get out of the car and do all of that". Not to mention your "shoplifter" comment. They are called to the store, not the other way around. If you ACTUALLY sat down and asked one of them what they thought, you would find out they HATE being tied up with shoplifters etc... Oh and one more thing, you sit and try to hand out tickets for 10 mph over the limit and see how far that gets you in the court, and with complaints. Get real, get some facts, and get away from the stereotypical cop bashing if you aren't going to actually go out and find out what they REALLY do day to day in "your township".

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14k3j9c(10 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

count me in...i'm all for going "SAINTS" on them...got a pair of boondocks for the occassion!

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15walter_sobchak(1950 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

The only answer is a "zero tolerance" policy. If people are speeding, stop them and ticket them. If they are violating noise ordinances, cite them. If they are littering, cite them. It may be called profiling, but I call it good police work. Everyone knows that Canfield PD has a zero tolerance for traffic violations in the city. Consequently, everyone slows down at the city limits. Evertone also knows that they are consequently on patrol so we have very little crime. If the good people of Boardman want safe streets, they are going to have to pony up the additional funds for police and have them patrolthe north end of the township.

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16Ytownnative(1055 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

while they are at it closing roads they need to close canfield road at mill creek. Now that they have resident only roads between glenwood and mill creek do our taxes still pay for upkeep of roads we can't use?

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17seminole(476 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Rokscout,

You on the force? Awful defensive, aren't you. I/we see what is done while two patrol cars are lined up door to door in the parking lot of the vacant motel on 224, or sitting way back in the parking lot of Mrket St Elementary while the traffic screams by. I would not have made the comments I made if they had not been said. Do you hear of Poland and Canfield dying on the vine like Boardman? They generate DOLLARS with speeding tickets. The job of the courts is to apply the law as written for ANY infraction, including any speed over the posted limit. Why should it be an issue of "see how far that gets you in court"? You are making excuses for officers not doing what they are sworn to do: uphold the law. Shoplifting is not a crime that influences the safety of neighborhoods were people live, it takes money out of businesses pockets. It doesn't intimidate elderly people by sticking a gun in their face, it takes officers away from the crimes that actually do influence peoples lives. Do yourself and the rest of us who are truly disqusted with how things are NOT handled and stop making excuses for ineffective performance. Look at the rest of the comments made by the others, then re-read yours. Think you're on the right side of the fence, or an apologist for an ineffective police force? Hmmm...

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18Rokscout(310 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Comparing Canfield and Poland to Boardman? Really. I'm still laughing. I did reread everyone's comments. Seems to me the general consesus is there need to be MORE police, because they realize how few there are compared to calls/problems. You seem to be the only one that is bashing them. What's wrong? Did you get an O.V.I. and now you are angwy at the powice.........awwww. Still waiting for you to get the facts...maybe you will do a ride along with them?

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19Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

One man's crime is another mans opportunity ! In Youngstown we call it culture and in Boardman you call it crime . Youngstown is very rich in culture while Boardman yearns for such richness . IT'S ALL GOOD AND IT CAN ONLY GET BETTER !

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20northsideart(111 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I fully support these people. Hold your elected officials and civil servants responsible for doing their jobs and don't quit until they comply or get kicked out of their positions. You should also start accepting that you're going to have to toughen up and do your own bit to keep your neighborhoods safe. We all need to do that. Best of luck to you. You're an inspiration to us all.

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21Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

"And Walmart should have to pay the Boardman PD every time they call them out."

Walmart should be more tolerant to the shopping habits of the subculture ! BPD can't erase the subcultures habits .

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22Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

walter

"A strict community with zero tolerance for those, as Judge Smails said, that don't "follow the rules of a decent society"!

seminole

And what is the "think like a thug" comment? You mean, I can roll down my driveway and blast these punks with my softball bat? Sounds good to me! Marshall Law, let's take back the neighborhood on our own. THAT is what they are telling us; we will give you "training" to protect yourselves, now go out and take care of your neighborhood on your own. Hey, if I can ding a few of these creepers and be free from prosecution I'll take up watch every night and patrol the streets.

Agree 100%!

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23Rokscout(310 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I think all of us have the same ideas as far as the problem goes. Some folks are just missing facts and presenting biased opinion as their "tale" of police action. As far as Wal Mart, didn't this paper print a statement that they responded there almost 700 times last year? Now add in all the rest of the businesses and there goes most of your manpower. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I ask again that if you are going to berate the police, find out what they are actually doing on a daily basis. I do know for a fact that they are not just "sitting", they write all reports in their cars and have to find a place to park and do that. A place that also grants them faster access to all parts of the area (I.E. market street/224) if they are sent on a hot call in the middle of a report...just find out the facts first... please folks? Oh and...concealed carry is strongly encouraged!

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24boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Hope4thevalley,
you are a kook. The difference between you and the other people on this board is that you keep mentioning this "coverup" that you have fabricated in your head. There is no cover up. It is plain and simple , as I said before, there is nothing to steal in youngstown so they come to the burbs.
Our police department , while possibly understaffed, is not at fault as you seem to state in all your other posts. Trust me when I say they are not hiding the fact that you got robbed three times, nor were they in on the job.
You try to make valid points on here while at the same time throwing in the non facts and looneybird ideas you have fabricated because you watch too much tv.
Some on this post make sense, others not so much, but you just keep contradicting yourself and your ideas. I am all for people putting new ideas out there to solve problems, but all you do is whine and complain that the "cover up" doesn't suit you or your businesses. I think you have gone or are going "round the bend " as they say.
I suggest you take a few deep breaths , turn off the computer, and try to form a complete , sensible thought that doesn't include the words "coverup" or drugman".

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25Conservatism_Will_Prospers(91 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

We have to be careful with the CCW permits... Having the ability to defend ourselves or our loved ones in a life threatening or severe injury situation does not give us the right to stop Crime! However we do need to be vigilant against crime. We must work together with LEO's to deter crime. The CCW permit only allows us to ensure our own safety! The truth of the matter is that LEO's cannot stop crime, only we can! But we must do it in an orderly fashion side-by-side with LEO's. It is up to the us to report criminal activity, it is up to us to watch out for our neighbors! Together we can stop crime and reduce poverty, but it takes a community effort! Until we stop talking, and start walking, the drugs and thugs will continue to run Y-town!

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26boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

With the prosecutor and the city babbling over who is going to pay for their inmates, look for them all to be freed just in time for the nice robbing and stealing weather. Gated Community is a good idea. It should be done, if you want security, you simply need to pay for it yourselves. if they put up a wall around the glen with keycards and private security at each gate, I would move there in a heartbeat.

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27computer_rick(137 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I personally think that when they moved the police department off of Market street out into the sticks, as far as they could get from Y-town and still technically be in Boardman proper it was a good sign that the Boardman PD were just saying "sayonara, suckers!".

Seriously, what ever happened to the patrols? ooops, gone! And why should they? criminals are dangerous! And there is more profit for the court system in picking up suburban folk, than urban folk.

I guess they are protecting tha Mall from the criminal element of Columbiana county... Stop 'em at Western Reserve Rd, I say!

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