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Police nab 12-year-old boy after Subway robbery


Published: Mon, May 3, 2010 @ 2:22 p.m.

YOUNGSTOWN — A 12-year-old boy charged with robbing a South Side sandwich shop was taken to the Martin P. Joyce Juvenile Justice Center after police caught him in a foot pursuit and found a loaded .22-caliber pistol on him.

Clerks at the Subway sandwich shop, 830 E. Midlothian Blvd., told police the boy entered the shop at 4:14 p.m. Sunday wearing a ski mask and all black attire, carrying a Nike handbag and brandishing a pistol.

One of the clerks reported that the boy pointed a handgun at her, went behind the counter and ordered her to “Put all the money in the bag.”

For the complete story, see Tuesday's Vindicator and Vindy.com


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1jrolley325(732 comments)posted 2 years ago

great, so he'll spend a month in JJC and be out to terrorize the streets some more.

future murder suspect.

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2Lifes2Short(2993 comments)posted 2 years ago

Yep, kids don't commit crimes. Alrighty then....

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3justonevoice(94 comments)posted 2 years ago

jrolley325@ -What do you suggest we do with this 12 year old? Send him to the electric chair? Why don't you get out from behind your computer for a little while and mentor troubled young boys like these? You know what they say, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

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4tominbrooklyn(34 comments)posted 2 years ago

This is a great time to go back and remember the story about the cop stopping the 3 young boys a backyard who ended up being innocent.

I believe I remember a lot of people saying "what now we have to worry about 12 and 13 year olds?"

Well here is the reason why that officer pulled his gun when the kids ran because there are 12 year olds out there that can kill people and carry guns.

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5joydav(40 comments)posted 2 years ago

WOW! A lot of anger about a 12 yr. old child. I bet that all the people who want to crucify this child have never done anything wrong in their lives. NOT! We often think that the little things done in life don't matter. The little white lie, the big white lie, and other things that you think don't matter. Their all Christians and believe that there is help for everyone, "only on Sunday morning". He((, this child may have been hungry for all we know. Why send him down the river for this. Don't get me wrong, he was wrong for what he did. But, do we try to help him or what. As for the comments about mother's not being married, and on welfare, take a ride to the ODJFS building on Oak Hill and see how many of thoes people are not African American, Hispanic, Asian. You'll be amazed. I agree with the comment on mentoring, why not, to good or just don't care. Enough of this, you didn't see all this when the Dairy Queen owner from Canfield had to go to court, did you. I think there were 5 or so blogs on a man who lured children with icecream to sell them weed and take unspeakable pictures of them. Wow, priorities are right in order. Oh, by the way, if there are any spelling errors or grammer issues, I'm sure someone will point it out. We all know that is most important.

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6janitspace(92 comments)posted 2 years ago

von1945....what is your race?.....Oh nevermind you're an ass!

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7Stan(9923 comments)posted 2 years ago

Poor fellow ! This was indeed a career setback . Now when he gets out in a week or so he will have to start all over again . Yep, he will have to fake a robbery with a gun to get enough money to buy one on the street . At his young age he will not be able to take a gun by force .

CRUZIN DA HOOD

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8jrolley325(732 comments)posted 2 years ago

hahaha we're supposed to cut this kid a break and play it off as the "boys will be boys" cliche? when i was 12, i was hiding playboys and sneaking into movie theaters. that you can file under "boys will be boys" i wasn't pointing a gun at someone's face demanding the $100 or so in the cash register. if someone wants to use a gun during the commission of a crime, they should automatically be tried as adults.

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9Nunya(1356 comments)posted 2 years ago

Unacceptable,..

Albeit only 12 years old that's no kid and for him to be such an adolescent aged A-hole to go the route to all but pull that off. Rest assure he's a Juvi pon for somebody and that stickup wasn't his first rodeo.

Things like this also signifies more than a culprit of that crime he's just MO suspect that's yet to be linked to other crimes he's committed and gotten away with.

See I'm compassionate but not crazy and I don't carry a crying towel to neither accommodate criminals nor those that's chaperoning the cotillion of younger crooks to be hosted by society and force funded at taxpayers expense,.. oh no you don't.

Thus for all the sympathizers for those that are so brazen and so far gone that they'll commit acts of armed robbery. Get a grip and realize that criminality has no startup nor cutoff age and your mortality isn't spared if being shot by a minor either,.. rules are rules.

See regardless to having been exposed to different things in our lives and backgrounds. Fact is we've all been 12 years old before and we know that our actions are personal decisions.

For which it takes a certain type of mindset to even entertain the thought of such an act. Lest alone how deeply such a savagery has to become ingrained for one to actually carry it out.

I'm a no nonsense and equal opportunity enforcer. Which is to state he deserves to get snatched off the streets, out of society and put in a controlled environment until his 18th birthday.

Where on lock down you can ensure he's exposed to being implored to get an education, he'll be less likely to be aligned with or influenced by the criminal element.

Where he'll also no longer pose no threat to society and nobody of zero tolerance won't kill him upon such a confrontation.

See some honest days work for an honest days wage employee could have been injured or killed by that clown. As well as that clown could have got a clip emptied, or shotgun shells shucked in him for forcing such a face off.

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10Nunya(1356 comments)posted 2 years ago

@tominbrooklyn

You're a cunning fool,..

Let it be understood that the ordeal that you're trying to infuse trying to troll for some indefensible immunity for a unfit adult has nothing to do with this by neither facts nor circumstance.

There's a difference between where the wild eyed cop plotted to accost school children fresh off the school bus on their way home from school.

Which was light years different from what this abominable adolescent did and needs to be judicially punished for it just like the wild eyed hair brained no count cop in that other instance.

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11justonevoice(94 comments)posted 2 years ago

I absolutely feel this child should be punished - but the remark about him "being out of JJC in a month" was what makes me cringe. Jrolley325 - you have over 200 comments posted. There is no doubt that this is a troubled young man headed for disaster however, perhaps if there were more men like yourself who got up from behind their computers and mentored some of these troubled young men rather than sitting at their computer waiting for yet another story like this so they could jump on Vindy.com and pontificate for the rest of us, perhaps we wouldn't have so many young people headed down the wrong road. I said it once, i'll say it again, if you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

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12BrothaLove(44 comments)posted 2 years ago

USA1 said:
"I'll ask you the same question I previously asked. How would you like to look down barrel of a .22 cal pistol and not knowing if you're about to be murdered? You'd be looking at the gun; not the scumbag pointing it at you. "

Actually, the three young boys in Warren could as you the same question regarding the cop who held them at gunpoint, except in that case the gun is alot bigger.

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13Lifes2Short(2993 comments)posted 2 years ago

"...but the remark about him "being out of JJC in a month" was what makes me cringe."

Why? It's true. He'll be out and 99.9% he'll do something else. This is where it starts. The life of crime. No regard for human life. You don't just become a criminal one day when your older. This is society now. A 12 year old with a GUN, ROBBING a subway. 12 YEARS OLD. Truly amazing.

"...perhaps if there were more men like yourself who got up from behind their computers and mentored some of these troubled young men rather than sitting at their computer waiting for yet another story like this so they could jump on Vindy.com and pontificate for the rest of us, perhaps we wouldn't have so many young people headed down the wrong road."

Where is his dad? Why can't the dad be a positive influence on him? His family. Why should the blame be put on society when his parent/s should be responsible? You can't force a low life sewer rat to get help. It don't work! And it's a shame because some kids do want help and make themselves better. Hopefully this wanna be thug does. But to blame honest people that there not doing nothing is ridiculous.
Houser with a gun killing a 80 year old lady on sacred ground, a 12 year old with a GUN robbing a subway....that is scary because it's all out there.

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14Stan(9923 comments)posted 2 years ago

"Where is his dad?"

Probably trying to locate another gun for him when he gets out in a week or so . These youngsters bring home the bacon and crack without doing real time when they are caught . Some families have several kids doing crime and not much time .

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15kids2028(72 comments)posted 2 years ago

The low life kid had a Gun, and would have used it because there is no respect for other human life. He should get
the maximum, or he will go and do it
again, and more lives Will Be Affected. or Lost. Or be forced to live in a wheel chair for the rest of his life like
Kentucky Chicken's Mr. Paloza.

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16northsideperson(332 comments)posted 2 years ago

Since he had a gun, file charges as an adult.

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17Nunya(1356 comments)posted 2 years ago

@StoogeSA

You're humiliated you clueless liar { but what else is new },..

Here again I've weighed in stating the facts and you can't refute them you futile stooge. Yet in your hyperbolic effort to address me you've a serial non sequitur having said NOTHING, presented nothing and offered nothing to discuss you empty incubation of infinite incompetence.

Wordsmith?

Well let me just re-shoe you here again, you hilariously ham headed Humunkulous,..

See to continue in an unbridled manner of calling it face forward here. You're a mere buffoon festooned bluster bum that reeks of such incredulous incompetence you unknowing exploit your incessant inferiority.

That in a finite fashion of foisting of your foolishness leaves it so unquestionably clear. That where you despise my non bias, no nonsense mindset, non wavering approach and astute fact based intellect that affords me to reason and connect with the shared sense and values of the populous.

Where in your bearing such indifference and no such worth. You can't contain how frazzled, frustrated, flummoxed and infuriated you are by your so laughably lacking any such comparable aplomb, ability or accord in any and or all stated aspects and said areas.

In short you're the very interdiction of your own absolute ignorance and victim of your own vexation that I've pointed out to you long before. That's impacted you so profoundly that in your dismay you find it disheartening and yet indisputable. That now to your chagrin you have no control over how conclusive the entire community recognizes my assessment and accuracy is,..

So in recognizing your ribald ridiculousness and illicit incompetency. Here's to my affluently accommodating your absolute insistence to have your schnoz used as a sack rack,.. " nuts " to you there you self tormented Teabagger.

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18saddad(496 comments)posted 2 years ago

And this is exactly why Sgt Hoolihan's action in Warren were not in any way the use of excessive force.

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19saddad(496 comments)posted 2 years ago

I dont care what they did in the Dept. He wasnt playing tiddly winks out there and way too many kids have guns and every cop on the street knows it. Those that second guessed him and found it to be excessive force are jerkwads reacting to the big mouths. Youd rather he get shot I expect..?

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20Stan(9923 comments)posted 2 years ago

This kid was a wage earner for his family . Now with a slight setback he will re-establish himself when he gets out . Some families have several kids working which assures an interrupted supply of money .

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21atownreader(26 comments)posted 2 years ago

I totally agree with jprolley. and you who scoff about getting out from behind the computer have no clue what you are talking about. You do not know this person. I do. He has more responsibility in his little finger than most grown men have in their entire beings.

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22Lifes2Short(2993 comments)posted 2 years ago

atown

"He has more responsibility in his little finger than most grown men have in their entire beings."

Hes 12 years old ROBBING A SUBWAY, now humor me and tell me how he has RESPONSIBILITY? I don't care if he was a A+ honor student with perfect attendance, he ROBBED innocent people with a GUN and RAN from the police. If you call that responsibility then your just as worse then your 12 year old friend. I really hope your not that stupid and just had a momentary lapse of reason.

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23joydav(40 comments)posted 2 years ago

@ USA1, I'm not saying what the kid did isn't wrong, I'm saying why do we have to give him the chair. He is at an age where if someone cared enough, he could be shown that this is not the life he wants to lead. While everyone is trying to right him off. My youngest child is 18 and graduates this year, I pray every time he walks out the door that he and his friends don't do anything stupid. So, while you decide to give the kid the electric chair, let's try to salvage the lives of our children, because they are all of ours, no matter the race.

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24saddad(496 comments)posted 2 years ago

Mike--you guys dont have the say as to when the case is closed you arrogant fool.( Why do say many people here think they should say "case closed"? -while the only thing closed its your puny mind. You may start the argument--ill say when its finished. Kids have guns. You live in your take on the world and let the officer live in his and mine.

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25saddad(496 comments)posted 2 years ago

Damn--I need a proof reader. My apologies to the innocent reader.

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26annieb(1 comment)posted 2 years ago

I don't think anyone would be saying "boys will be boys" if they knew that the kid also broke a cops finger while they were trying to lock him up. Maybe if you knew that he also tried to pull the gun out of his pocket during the pursuit... probably wouldn't think that was normal 12 year old behvior either. The details given about this case haven't been correct or at the very least, complete from any of the three major news sources reporting it. If the news sources we have would give the full story and make sure what they are saying is correct, people wouldn't assume that the boy deserves a slap on the wrist, he deserves to be punished.

The fact of the matter is the clerks involved in this were someone's mother, someone's daughter. They are lucky to be alive and unharmed. He is lucky that he didn't overreact or bump something and pull that trigger while it was aimed at someone's face. That kid doesn't realize that what he did will affect these people for the rest of their lives.

I was working at this store during two armed robberies and to know that people are saying that he might have been hungry or that it is typical boy behavior is appauling! I know the people that were working that day and they did not deserve to have a gun put in their faces for any reason. These people were working to put food on the table and earn an honest living. There are places to go and people to ask if you are hungry or in need. Age is not an excuse, this boy knew that what he was doing was wrong and the fact that he was uncooperative with the police makes it that much worse.

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27Pams5000(4 comments)posted 2 years ago

YPD should do some forensic on this boys clothes, hat , gun and the nike bag, because someone had to dress him before he went out. Remember the 3 boys who robbed the convenient store on the corner of Elm St. and Bissell. The store owner shot and killed one and wounded one.Who were the kids in this 2006 convenient store robbery? Are these kids related to this 12 year old and who is giving them free access to guns, are the parents involved? YPD needs to hold the parents or family members accountable.

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