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Confidential, Youngstown, Ohio
Confidential, Youngstown, OH
Editor Todd Franko wants your feedback on the new print edition of The Vindicator. After you have read today's newspaper, go here to share your views or get your questions answered:
Read here about new Vindy
After my first quick look: Nice colors, clear print, and I like the return to a "legacy" type of masthead. One suggestion: The PDF pages take the print right up to the edge of the page. It would be nice for just a bit of margin on those pages.
Bob -- As the first commenter, you get first service Wednesday morning when we recover from a fun first night tonight. I will ask about the PDFs.
GREAT Newspaper - keep it coming!!!
Great color, Thanks for the free copies at McDonalds. It will take a while to adjust reading habits. Great investment..
Overall, I am not impressed with the redesign. The colors are a nice added feature but the rest of the paper appears to be a compact jumbled mess of news print. Then to make matters worse, I find that the comic Funky Winkerbean is gone!
very nice look and easy to read.
Bob -- We will fix the PDFs per your suggestion.
AKA -- We did not kill off Funky. Look on the page inside the back comics page. At the bottom, you'll see Funky, Cathy, B.C. and Judge Parker.
This came in via email:
Hi, The first day of the 'new' Vindy was a complete disappointment. My beloved sports page was half deleted. The h.s. hoop stories were only covered by 1 game at each site. Very poor idea & planning. No story as in past of each game. Kudos for at least throwing in the box score of the "other game". The Vindy will be admonished greatly if you only cover half the teams every other week during football season! I can't wait to see how you cover h.s. baseball & track. Make it easy....start with the district tourneys. Hoping this is not the "new Vindy forever". Ron
Our sports compromises are temporary. We needed to build in more press time to ensure the new machines have time to groan and moan and do whatever new machines do when they first start.
For that, we closed our news gathering shortly after 10 p.m. Normally it’s 11:40ish. But it is temporary.
You're the second person to express concern. Our first was our sports staff. They, too, did not want to have to cut in on districts.
Again -- temporary.
Um ... That's not Blondie today.
We're trying to figure it out. I'll update later.
All i have to say is A JOB WELL DONE! You all should be very proud of this new paper. Keep up the good work, the entire valley should also be thankful of your investment and dedication to this valley and that we have this great new paper, I know i am...Thank You... I even switched from weekend only to daily, I wish you luck and hope your investment pays off!
As with everything, change is hard to accept. This is especially true in the Mahoning Valley. The main point is that the publisher has laid out serious coin to update the operations and keep it competitive when many papers are in danger of being shuttered. Thus, the community owes the Brown family et al. a big thanks for keeping it local.
That being said, its all about content, which is lacking with this issue. I'm sure it will change when it starts humming along. But, the graphics are crisp and vivid. I'm sure the overall quality of the paper will improve, hopefully, starting with the sports section locally.
Now, let's go bowling!
I would like to say that the new Vindy looks good. I like the change in print, and the colors are going to really make it nice. I'm sure that as things get going, it will be a really nice paper, but as with all new things, I'm sure there are bugs to be worked out. With that said, I'm wondering where the FLAG is that is supposed to be atop the front page. I looked several times for it, but it is not there on today's front page. Did I misread that the flag is going to be atop the front page from now on??? Other than that, nice looking paper.
First thought was this is the Plain Dealer. Second thought, the paper feels smaller. Color looks good, but that should be nothing to be proud of because mostly all of the area papers have been looking like that for years.
Other than that, ask me in a month.
we always start the day with the vindy and upgrades are always welcome.at the moment we are in ft. myers fl. and they have a great paper called the newspress. my wife enjoys the "cryptoquip" puzzle and would love to see it in the vindy. thanks.
I'm still hoping for a computer technology section . . .. otherwise I have no complaints .
Enjoyed the new layout. Pictures and print much better. Though may I suggest a little more whitening in the pigment of the base paper. My copy resembles the look of a 20 yr. old paper that has been in a cardboard box all these years. Slite grayish/brown tint.
I liked the change. Reading the old style first thing in the morning made me think I needed reading glasses. The print is much clearer and the layout will take some getting used to, but it is good.
I'm glad Funky didn't get cut, I'll have to go home and find him :)
I like the new look, I did not have any complaints about the old look. My husband thinks the statistics on the sports page, , the print is very small. You have to remember, the older population of the valley. My morning today wasn't as good as usual because I always read the local, and he reads the front page. I had no local to read and I felt lost.
I just want to make a comment about the vindy website. The baby birth section has been messed up for some time now it needs fixed it would be nice if someone would put all the missing births up on the website.
It is nice to see the valley's paper with more color like papers in other areas have had for years, but was disappointed that some of the $10 million dollars was not spent on automated color registration or at least a pressman that knows how to register color. JJ Cafaro's picture was so far out of register that it looked like he was sticking out his tongue but it was really his red tie.
"JJ Cafaro's picture was so far out of register that it looked like he was sticking out his tongue but it was really his red tie."
I thought it was cocktail sauce that dripped off the deep fried shrimp. :)
I`ve been reading the Vindy since I was 7 yrs old which was several decades ago.I definitely like the color and it appears that all the news will be in it.I also read the Tribune on occasion so I`m used to the smaller size.Nice job.
Thanks you all for reading here. Quickly:
The Cafaro photo: The problem was not the press, but with a newsroom staffer who adjusted the photo after some parts of the photo were printed. One color photo is a result of 4 colors (yell, red, blue and black) coming together. A staffer adjusted the pik in mid-process.
The paper: I'll ask about that and post back up here.
Births on web site: We made software changes to the web site several weeks ago, and some things did not employ properly. We're still working on them.
I've been a digital subscriber for a couple of years. I'd love to see you make each section a multi-page pdf so I can just scroll down and read the entire section. Opening and closing each page is a real pain!
I like the smaller paper, less paper used is a good thing.
Color photos don't really do anything for me b/c I am more interested in the news text, but I very much like the beige highlight of the Metro Digest.
On A2, what is with the editorial in the PETA-elephant story? Reminded me of some of the juvenile comments about Capri Cafaro's weight made in online posts in story about her dad's guilty plea. The comment at end "No word yet on who will come to the students' rescue." How is that part of the news story? Rescue from what?
Court filings seem much bigger. Same for police blotter. Does anyone really read those? Would rather have real news here and return to smaller print for filings/blotter. No interest in who has had their house foreclosed upon. Just seems like that is there to embarrass people. Why kick them when they are down?
Overall, I like it. Some things will take getting used to such as the "Local" not being separate section but in time I'll get used to it.
It does seem very much like Plain Dealer.
since cutdowns are pretty much the norm and saving money and paper is always good for both the business and consumer, kudos on making the long-awaited transition. however, the redesign is pretty much carbon-copying the other metro papers in NE ohio. i opened it and it was like "Holy Beacon Journal, Batman!"
a few points:* despite cutting down in size, it seems that the content is the same or even increased from before. all the nooks and crannies of the page are utilized.* the new body copy font for Tributes is far too condensed to read easily. these are largely read by the elderly, and the condensed sans-serif used now is probably going to be hard to read for them, especially if the obits are clipped and/or laminated.* the section front headers are pretty small, they get lost among the stories. "Local/State" is the same size as the headline for the top story - it should be more pronounced. * "The Weather?" what's wrong with just "Weather?" it doesn't say "The News" or "The Editorials."
@toddfranko Thanks for replying back to us posters of vindy.
I'm glad that you kept the "Years Ago" segment in the editorial section, but I think the bullet-formatted version that you have now is not as easy to read.
Specifically, in the "Vindicator Files" section, you have the year at the same bullet/indent level as the items relating to that year. I think that using the year as a heading with items as bullets beneath it would make it easier to read.
No matter what changes you make to the paper it still sucks. It is in line with the Boardman News. Nothing but paper to wrap your trash in.
Why did the local section get combined into the front section? Why was the shooting on the west side Friday night not covered in the Vindy?
Von1945, what progression can you talk about in this area. This newspaper is a waste of 50 cents. I wouldn't allow my new puppy to use this paper as a pee pad. It's always at leasta a day late on the news. I read articles in other papers on Monday that the Vindy gets around to printing on Wed. or Thurs. I think Darnell is the publisher of this paper too. Its all trash.
I like the new snappy look of the paper. I mostly read it online from Philadelphia. Right now I'm following the series on the downtown restaurants. So far, well done! Let's have more series. Online it seems you've misidentified the restauranteur in the photo. That's Chuck Sop at the Rosetta Stone, not the owner of the Lemon Grove.
I am still trying to get used to the new format. You can't stop progress. I am sure the Vindy will continue to improve.
Keep improving. Very well done.
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