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Ohio black students punished disproportionately



Published: Tue, June 29, 2010 @ 9:30 a.m.

COLUMBUS (AP) — A new report shows nearly half of all disciplinary actions in Ohio public schools involve black students, who make up 17 percent of the student population.

The study released Monday by the Children’s Defense Fund-Ohio shows the rate at which blacks are punished is slightly higher than the rate of school discipline for white students, who comprise 79 percent of public school enrollment.

The group says there seems to be no logical reason why minority students are punished at higher rates than white students and says further research is warranted.

Children’s Defense Fund-Ohio Director Ronald Browder says it’s an important issue because when a student is disciplined it takes away from important class instruction and learning.


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11970mach1(1005 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

"A new report shows nearly half of all disciplinary actions in Ohio public schools involve black students, who make up 17 percent of the student population."

Perhaps those 17% have caused half of all the disciplinary problems. See, it really is pretty simple.

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2dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

"Children’s Defense Fund-Ohio Director Ronald Browder says it’s an important issue because when a student is DISCIPLINED it takes away from important class instruction and learning."

When a student MISBEHAVES it takes away from important class instruction and learning. The discipline becomes necessary because a student doesn't follow the rules.

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3dailytruck(10 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

did you ever look at the prison system...gee let's say 80 to 90 % are what....black !!!!!!

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4walter_sobchak(1889 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

I will finish their research for them. I would have to believe that the black students that have been punished have caused nearly half of the discipline problems in the schools. What tripe!

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5Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

"The group says there seems to be no logical reason why minority students are punished at higher rates than white students and says further research is warranted."

They are just doing their thing and enjoying it . Why should they be punished at all ? Mainstream Society should have more tolerance for them .

IT'S ALL GOOD AND GETTING BETTER EVERYDAY !

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6Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

Agreed 1970Mach1.

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7city_dweller(193 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

And it's exactly opinions like these that lead to black students being disciplined for the same behavior that barely raises an eyebrow when done by white students. When people (especially teachers) expect black students to continually misbehave, then any behavior will be viewed as misbehavior. It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. Hence the statistic!

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8Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

White students get punished for the same reasons don't make it seem like their treated better because that's not true. In my experience, I've seen white students be punished for misbehaving as well as being an example that they aren't going to be treated better for their ethnicity. So that's not the case. The point here is black students misbehave at a much higher rate than white students. That's that.

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9Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

citydweller

You can't be serious?

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10dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

"When people (especially teachers) expect black students to continually misbehave, then ANY BEHAVIOR WILL BE VIEWED AS MISBEHAVIOR."

This makes no sense. Behaviors that are not permissable ("misbehaviors") are clearly identified in any student code of conduct. So if a teacher expects a student to misbehave, and that student raises his/her hand to answer a question during a lesson, (which is clearly acceptable behavior) you say the teacher will view this as "misbehavior"? Trust me, teachers (and the rest of the kids in the class) know "misbehavior" when they see it.

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11city_dweller(193 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

There are all kinds of misbehaviors in school: talking without raising your hand, fidgeting in line, whispering to a friend, passing notes, shuffling feet, staring out the window, etc. My point is that if a black student does this, and the teacher believes (as everyone on here does) that black students simply exhibit more bad behavior, then that teacher is likely to be less patient and more apt to invoke a harsher punishment than he/she would if a white student, i.e. well behaved, did the same thing. The difference is whether the bad behavior is expected or not. If it is expected, the consequences are likely to be stricter than if the behavior is considered an aberration. This is basic psychology.

In terms of fighting, talking back, and other higher level problems, black students are likely to receive harsher suspensions and detentions for these behaviors than white students. Again, this is likely because school officials tend to view black students as bad kids who are simply meeting expectations and need to be taught a harsh lesson, and white students as good kids who did something bad and deserve a second chance.

Besides, the article specifically says that black students are "PUNISHED" disproportionately, not that they misbehave disproportionately, which implies that given the same circumstances, a black student will be reprimanded for something that a white student is not.

I don't expect anyone to agree with me, because it's so much easier for you to chalk this up to the natural inferiority of the black race. It maintains the status quo and alleviates responsibility.

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12Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

The black students are reprimanded because more times than not, they have exhibited the bad behavior numerous times. I mean really, how many times can you slap someone on the hand before you finally get fed up with them not obeying the code of conduct, rules, laws.. etc.. These students most likely are repeat offenders who continually don't follow the rules and need discipline, not someone trying to defend them. Stick up for whats right, this isn't a movement on race and equallity, this is kids acting out of line and needing to be punished now and the behavior corrected, before they reach mainstream society.

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13dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 4 years, 1 month ago

city dweller,
You make a lot of statements as if they were facts, but in reality these are just your opinion as to what happens and/or they are things that may happen in a certain teacher's classroom, but definitely do not represent the norm. A teacher loses patience when the same student exhibits the same misbehavior over and over, whether black or white. Any behavior that is disruptive or disrespectful will result in a teacher applying discipline without regard to race. Truthfully, if you ever taught in a classroom you would realize that teachers aren't out to get any one race of kids. Teachers just want to be able to do their jobs.

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