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YSU workers to get raises & more

Published: Fri, June 25, 2010 @ 12:09 a.m.




A total of 172 professional and administrative employees at Youngstown State University will get a 4.25 percent pay raise effective next Thursday.

They’ll also be getting a $1,200 “adjustment” added to their base-pay rates on that date.

The total payout will cost the university $731,000, said spokesman Ron Cole.

The raise goes to professional and administrative staff who have supervisory duties but are not represented by any union, Cole said, adding they are referred to as “exempt professional staff.”

That includes vice presidents, deans, directors, assistant and associate directors and others, he said.

The increases were approved earlier this month by YSU’s Board of Trustees as part of the $158.8 million general fund budget, though the budget document presented to the public didn’t spell out the details.

It referred only to exempt professional and administrative staff getting “comparable salary increases” to those negotiated for union-represented employees.

Some 140 Association of Professional/Administrative Staff union employees are getting base-pay increases and other salary improvements that will boost their salaries by about 5.5 percent in the next fiscal year beginning July 1.

The university’s nearly 400 faculty members are in line for a 3.5-percent increase, and nearly 400 members of the Association of Classified Employees union will get a 2.6-percent increase, according to terms of their current contracts.

Cole said the $1,200 being added to exempt professional staff base pay is a “salary adjustment” made to establish a proper balance between the compensation paid to union-represented employees and management personnel.

Over the years, pay increases given exempt professional staff have not kept pace with the level of increases negotiated in union contracts, he said. That has created an imbalance between supervisors and the people they supervise, and the $1,200 is an effort to correct that imbalance, he said.


1lee(544 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

The economy is in the tank, taxes are insane, unemployment is way up, yet you give raises then get together and wonder why we the people are pissed. Go to a tea party and listen to the people who pay their taxes then you mite get what is going on

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2HaydenThomas(208 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

This really is unbelievable. The employees of YSU seem to think they are immune to the economic conditions.

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3ohio11pm(23 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

When private sector jobs decrease so much, who do they think is going to pay their salaries?

From the CATO Institute:
As of 2008, the average federal salary was $119,982, compared with $59,909 for the average private sector employee. In other words, the average federal bureaucrat makes twice as much as the average working taxpayer.

We are in deep trouble!!!

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4mrblue(1175 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

Last week the tuition goes up, this week raises are given. Unbelieveable. Bertrum will have a field day with this.

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5Nunya(1356 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

What another present to the people,..

Oh don't you all just love the worthless expense of what YSU provides for the valley?

Residents better wake up and sensibly call a halt to that criminal empire fleece mill over on Wick avenue.

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6Nunya(1356 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago


Stop lying like a fool,..

This isn't a Union orchestrated heist. Those who's " taking " such a seismic cash grab are NON-UNION individuals that pay no dues and adhere to no guidelines.

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7brownbagger(1 comment)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

As a former YSU employee, I can tell you that the rank and file members of the Professional and Administrative staff are woefully underpaid for their qualifications. Most have Masters degrees and are making far less than you would think. I more than doubled my income by leaving YSU for a similar position. These people are the backbone of the university, and are a large part of the reason that enrollment has been increasing in recent years.

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8Nunya(1356 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago


Don't be snookered,..

Harry Meshel is a fleece kingpin in that operation and has been for ages. He's not only one of those Non-union individuals who's getting that heist.

He only voted No as a manner of public posturing knowing his vote wouldn't stop it.

If he were genuine, sincere or honorable he'd either reject his portion or give it to the city,.. and don't you wait for it.

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9Nunya(1356 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago


Hold those apples and oranges,..

See unless the employees are on regulated and negotiated pay scale. That keeps a balanced parity of fairness in regards to pay and benefits.

You don't do a sweeping across the board pay and benefits increase for salaried and non regulated employees.

This is the fleece that it is and the people are understanding it as. For which no smoke and mirrors attempt is going to skew the view and continue tricking the public either,.. Got that?

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10bartender123(27 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

Well, well,

Lets see if Franko and Bertram have the nerve to take on the YSU Administration and the Board of Trustees! I doubt it!! Because their in bed with YSU, isn't that right Harold. Heard you're sitting on alot of information about YSU Administrators.

I have one class to go"Thank God" and I can get away from these jerks at YSU. Tuition keeps going up and the Board of Trustees have the nerve to give raises to over paid Administrators because of Union contracts. Give me a break!!!! If they feel under paid then go get a job somewhere else. Thats right, they couldn't get a job anywhere else because YSU collects the trash of other institutions.

Chairmen Scott Schulick needs to go. The President's search was fixed. Everyone knows he's been long time friends with Dr. A. Lets not forget that he placed his friend and Dr. A's on the search committee, Shannon Tirone, thats right, she received a promotion and a huge salary increase too. Strickland needs to go to, he's the only one that can replace this sorry group.

Congrats to Dr. White on her appointment to Special Asst. to the Provost while still serving as the Faculty Union President, no conflicts hear. Ha, Ha Ha you professors are going to be sold down the river, BYE, BYE just like ACE.

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11PHISHIE(105 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

IT is very important that YSU employees be compensated in accordance with their job duties. YSU is ;a very important organization in North Eastern Ohio. If YSU employees are not properly compensated, the organization will evolve into a non progressional institution. The tax payers must resolve to maintian this fine institution.

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12Becky_sharp(1 comment)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

Ah, yes. The rabble and their pitchforks come out to play. The issues raised here go far beyond a simple contractually mandated pay raise. Where to start?

-New economy vs. old economy. The USA's shift from a manufacturing economy to a knowledge/consumer economy began 40 years ago. I'm not saying that's a great thing, but that's the way it is. It's not impossible to catch up--I see people at YSU every day who are getting degrees because they recognize that they need skills they can use in today's job market. They're working their butts off--learning to use computers, learning how to be students, learning what they need to know to compete. (Learning, incidentally, guided by their hard-working instructors.) The people yelling "elite" and marching around with poorly spelled signs at the "tea parties" are simply those who refuse to do that work, and I have no respect for that. I will match my blue-collar street cred against anyone's. I'm the daughter of a mechanic and a cafeteria worker. They pay taxes and neither of them is complaining that I have a good job.

-Quality. This populist anger seems to be directed at anyone who makes more than you, regardless of that person's qualifications. (Unless they happen to be sports figures. I'm guessing not many of you write letters to the MLB or NASCAR to protest their salaries.) How many of you have kids at YSU? Do you really want the cheapest possible teacher in your kid's class? If it weren't for the unions, that's exactly what would happen--grad assistants are a lot cheaper than people with doctorates. And why bother giving your kids an education at all if you're just going to gripe when they get a good-paying job?

-Hypocrisy. How many of you would accept a pay cut because the boss says the economy is bad? For all the right's screaming about socialism, lowering a professor's salary because a mill worker lost his job sounds a heck of a lot like that godless system. You would deny to YSU employees something you would surely demand for yourselves and that is pure hypocrisy.

Ultimately, none of this matters. I'm taking my raise in nickles so I can fill a kiddie pool and just wallow in it. Mwa-ha-ha!

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13PHISHIE(105 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

Perhaps, but the greatest importance and priority is the student body. The students deserve the best faculty, administrators and staff available. Unfortunately, such is not attainted by compensating empoyees below U.S. standards. The students deserve the best!!!! However, along with having the best compensation goes hiring the best people. When faculty, administration and stafff become stagnant and non progressive they should be let go.........

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14LogicAndGrammar(19 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

I agree that YSU faculty should be fairly paid. My children may attend there someday, and I'd like for them to receive a quality education.

However, now is not the time to be dishing out 4% and lump sum raises! Nobody working in the private sector is receiving raises, and neither should people working for our government - or institutions funded by the government.

Public sector raises should be given only when the economy is in a better position.

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15Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

No wonder tuition raises pretty much every year and more and more students are forced to drop out because they are unable to pay for college tuition, work full time, and still lead an active lifestyle.

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16AKAFR1(322 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

It is called the Entitlement Mentalilty. It is found mostly in those who make up the depleted gene pool of Youngstown.

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17lbj4455(1 comment)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

A few points to add some perspective.

1. Because state funding has dramatically declined over the past several years, YSU, like every other state university in Ohio, has evolved into a quasi-private institution where public subsidies make up less than one-third of YSU’s revenues. The taxpayer fleecing outcry is either disingenuous or based on ignorance. YSU employees are not “government employees” in the same sense as K-12 school teachers and other state or federal workers because more than 70% of YSU wages are paid for by non-governmental sources.

2. Higher education is counter-cyclical in terms of the economy. When jobs are scarce, more students enroll in college in order to become employable in the labor market. So it’s not uncommon for colleges to experience financial growth when the rest of the economy falters. If you’re upset over YSU tuition raises, there are literally thousands of other colleges and universities from which to choose. There’s nothing to prevent Valley residents from shopping around the higher education marketplace. But YSU’s enrollments will continue to grow because YSU is still a great value.

3. There are numerous instances at YSU where classified civil service workers enjoy greater wages and better benefits than their supervisors, so much so that very little incentive remains for workers to aspire to management. Managers at YSU work longer hours and have far greater responsibilities, yet are commonly compensated less than their union subordinates, especially when you factor in all of the perks many union employees get (enrollment incentive bonuses, personal day cash payouts, overtime pay, more paid vacation time, etc, etc, etc). This has created dismally low morale among those who are charged with running the university, thereby putting YSU at the risk of operational failure. Since the union contracts in place at YSU are apparently iron-clad, giving management pay raises is the only way to deal with this problem.

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18walter_sobchak(2713 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

You make valid points about the inner workings of YSU and I have heard many of these facts previously from staff. It si that the thinking public is offended when the ACE union members get large bonuses due to enrollment increases that they had nothing to do with.

First and foremost, YSU is an institution for higher education, not a trade school or technical academy, and not job training. But, there is no doubt, that YSU is a great value for the money for undergraduate study. I have said this before, all that matters is that the curriculum of study is ACCREDITED by the national boards. If one were to check around, they would find that the vast majority of universities increase tuition each year. However, YSU is still reasonable and what is the other option? Ignorance. There are also more scholarships, grants, and aid available than ever before.

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19Tigerlily(509 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

I love how people complain about tuition going up at YSU every year. Hey small town pond dwellers, guess what? EVERY college in the state and most of them in the nation are raising their tuition every year. Also guess what? YSU is the cheapest university in Ohio. If you want to complain about it, know that you're complaining about the most affordable place that you can send your kid or attend yourself. You think the grass is greener elsewhere? You know what? It is. But you're going to have to pay even more money to stand on it.

Idiots in a stupid, stupid region.

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20Springman(263 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

YSU is in competition with other schools and the public sector on salaries.

YSU does not perform the kind of research that subsidizes faculty salaries; it does not hold any lucrative patents; it does not have a huge endowment. At some schools, many faculty members receive consultation fees, stipends, etc. aside from their base salaries.

Meanwhile, EXACTLY how much natural gas underlies YSU? Is there a geologist on campus? This may be the single factor YSU may have to distinguish itself.

BTW, ohio11pm: you have to be careful with the Cato statistics. Actually research shows that if the Pay Comparability Act were imposed, federal judges who now make about $180,000 per year should get about $500,000. How much would the President get? VA physicians? Generals? Admirals? http://www.opm.gov/feddata/html/payst...

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21WhatRUAfraidOf(85 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

lbj4455 could not have said it better about low morale amongst salaried exempt administrators who are not in one of the unions. As one of those individuals, I don't even agree with the amount of the raises. In this economy, I think the raises are too much. On the other hand, what the unions got is over the top, as well, and I know the board approved the raises to try to keep the non-union administrators from leaving the university.

However, there is one point that is missing and that is what about service to students? Everyone seems to miss that point. There is NO ingrained corporate culture at the university where world-class quality of service or excellence is the heart.

Quality service to students, parents, the community, and each other SHOULD be our ultimate goal as employees. Yes, I know we all work because we need money. As educators, and all of us who work in educational institutions are to some degree educators, whether we stand in front of students and teach or not, there is a higher calling here. We need a leader at the university who will be a strong proponent for quality and excellence on every level. Why should a student select YSU if he or she can obtain a bachelors degree at a regional campus of Kent State for about the same amount of money and be able to say that he or she graduated from one of the top public universities in the state?

It is excruciatingly frustrating to get anything new accomplished at YSU because people are too busy worrying about if something is in their job descriptions or if a new means of doing something might change what they do so therefore entails a reclassification. It's utterly absurd. Every day at YSU feels like being in the midst of a Samuel Beckett play. "Waiting for godot" anyone?

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22crl(18 comments)posted 6 years, 1 month ago

Well said WhatAreYouAfraidOf.

So much energy and money are wasted at YSU. Let's hope for the best with Dr. Anderson's administration.

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23ohdrama0901(53 comments)posted 6 years ago

YSU is about the last decent thing over in Youngstown and without it the city would be dead and definitely have nothing positive. I don't care what and how it happens there are always some naysayers having something to say. If you would have gone to college and achieved your degrees as these people have maybe you too would get a raise on your job or perhaps be a YSU employee. I'm glad that they got raises; the more wages the more taxes generated into the city. I don't live in Youngstown and would never any intention to but that city needs help and prayer. While they're at it they need to give the police some raises and better resources to get it together.

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24starofesther(168 comments)posted 6 years ago

Now will they work up to the raise!

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