Youngstown lawmaker pans court ruling on speeding tickets

I wasn't aware that Radar Detectors detected speed....they detect Radar units that are detecting speed but that's about it. Silly politicians!

so, basically if an officer hasn't met his weekly/monthly quota of speeding tickets, he can pretty much pull over random cars and say "i saw you speeding. i don't know how fast though"

techjunkie:

???

That's like saying..

"I wasn't aware that ovens cooked food.. they provide an enclosure for a heat source which cooks the food but that's about it."

Silly wanna-be tech expert.

This was a very poor decision by the court, and I am glad that some lawmakers are set to overturn it, but some of the hysteria about this is comical.

This was already the law in almost all of Ohio already. That is because it had not been heard by the Ohio Supreme Court before, and of the appellate districts that heard the case, only one, which makes up only Cuyahoga Co., had decided that radar was necessary.

And as far as rogue cops going around issuing speeding tix when there really was no speeding, that is a fear that just wouldn't be realized. As it is now, cops can issue all kinds of tix that require no proof other than their word (no turn signal, crossing center line, driving w/o lights on, reckless operation, etc. etc. etc.) and it isn't happening wide scale. (of course, I'm sure it has happened though).

Hopefully this ruling will be replaced by lawmakers, but until, and if, it is there is no reason to think sky is falling.

"And as far as rogue cops going around issuing speeding tix when there really was no speeding, that is a fear that just wouldn't be realized. As it is now, cops can issue all kinds of tix that require no proof other than their word (no turn signal, crossing center line, driving w/o lights on, reckless operation, etc. etc. etc.) and it isn't happening wide scale. (of course, I'm sure it has happened though)."

Never been to Boston Heights???

That act isn't just abominable it's emphatically un-constitutional,..

It's a tort act that unquestionably violates the basic bedrock of judicial dispute via the process historically known as due process.

It unlawfully strips an individuals rights of defense and dispute. Via circumventing unalienable rights of the accused immediately becoming the convicted. By voiding any preponderance of evidence of one wishing / needing to present their innocence.

The crooks in that court who'd mounted that violation on constitutional law are reprehensible via that premise.

The most basic knowledge of any law student worth one semester hour of their tuition knows that.

No state has the power to violate constitutional law and clearly those in that faction alleged to not have gotten the memo.

In essence the disorder of that court wants to make hearsay not only admissible. But forge it into some gross infringement via Trojan horse by citing some visual aide validation.

They're not that dump not to know and or have heard of the restrictions established in the U.S. Constitution,

They combo cunningly think Ohioan's are that stupid and will use racking up procedural appellate fees. As a deterrent to have their at large plot overturned and duly struck down upon being contested at a higher level of the courts.

What they're doing is trying to turn cops into bag men via positioning themselves as unjust and criminalizing pharaoh's.

See if such were just and allotted by constitutional law. They could also select at will whomever they'd like to depict as thieves, murders, rapists or anything else,.. just because they said so.

They act as though they've never heard of the lawful dispute of the variance between the calibration of radar devices and an actual reading on the vehicles odometer,.. fed says it's a 7 mph tolerance.

So now they contend the human eye is calibrated to such a refined accuracy of guesstimation. That it's a process admissible for an immediate conviction?

Now in caricature you decide if that's jurisprudence or just plain cunning and criminal,.. as set forth by the U.S. Constitution.

@techjunkie02

No,..

Where meaning no offense but I'd be less than honest if I didn't admit. That I'd have expected far more technological understanding from you given your screen name.

However, to share the wealth of understanding here for enlightenment of fellow countrymen.

Radar is a apparatus of geometric calculation of electronic correlation. That's employed for detecting and estimating presence, speed and direction using refractory waves of approximating a given parameter.

Although not perfect it's indisputably the most accurate measure and method known to man to record, verify and present a calculation,.. especially dealing with speed.

Given instances of pursuit and chase a patrol persons guesstimate is to be given factored credence and their vehicles are equipped to take guesswork out of the equation,... that's not whats being disputed here.

See if you'd just read the U.S. Constitution and apply it to any and all variances of law set forth.

You'll discover that this act via the courts is nothing less than a non-constitutional shakedown. That leaves every driver subject to being deemed guilty of an act they very well may not have committed solely to reap revenue,.. it's a textbook example of trying to legalize extortion.

Sure all laws comes down to interpretation. But there's not a law that allots nor defends. Any process of an individual being deemed guilty by one just saying they are.

I'm the last one you'll ever hear defending any speeders. As I've lost a dear friend and a couple co-workers from speeders and one that was speeding them self and became disabled.

But via the same token I'm not one to subscribe to the criminalization of law. To come under the guise of safety to extol such a devious and heinous plot against all drivers to fleece them / us.

See what that court is trying to forge is making all drivers subject and liable to being cited for speeding even if they were at a complete stop,.. and being deemed guilty if merely said so,

Now do you understand?,.. better.

so if a car speeds past a police car on the freeway the cop should tell the public to call bob hagan. Esp after the driver cuts someone off causes an accident and kills a family. Way to go BOB. you should try to legalize drugs whiule you are at it. Oh yeah you are already.

blkpride:

There are other charges which could be brought against such a driver: Failure to Control/Weaving, Disregard of Safety, Reckless Operation, etc.

And I agree that while Bob is at it, he should try to legalize (some) substances currently considered illegal, as this could significantly reduce drug-related crimes in my neighborhood.

@blkflag

You're of the forum folly variety that's always good for a clownish circus laugh,...

Your doomsday scenario sounds as pathetic as all the other stammering[s] you present for others far more coherent, sensible, intelligent and genuine.

To feel better about themselves and all others that refuses to be so absurd.

May you forever continue to provide us the laughs and the leverage. Of detecting just how dumb and disingenuous a clown in a cloakroom can get,..