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Carnival curtailed in wake of melee

Published: Wed, June 2, 2010 @ 12:09 a.m.

By Denise Dick

Mall festival to close earlier this weekend





Jason Loree


Boardman Police Chief Jack Nichols

An outdoor festival at Southern Park Mall, where fights broke out last weekend, will close earlier both Friday and Saturday this week, township officials said.

Jason Loree, township administrator, said the event will close at 9 p.m. Friday and Saturday instead of between 11 p.m. and midnight.

“I’ve also told [police chief] Jack [Nichols] that if the township needs to send out additional police officers for overtime, we will do that,” Loree said.

There’s also been discussion — although no decision — about sending that overtime bill to the mall, he said.

Loree acknowledged that the mall wouldn’t be required to pay it.

“We can always ask,” he said. “I would hope that they would recognize this is a quality-of-life issue for the community.”

Mall officials couldn’t be reached.

Nichols said he met with mall and Bates Amusements officials before the festival started, recommending against the outdoor event. After that meeting, mall and amusement-company personnel agreed to fence the area and to charge an admission fee, Nichols said.

“They were charging $5, and that included a $5 credit for rides,” the chief said. “But on Saturday, they lowered it to $2.”

The outdoor festival started May 25 and is set to run through Sunday.

Police were called about 10 p.m. May 29 after several fights broke out among those attending the festival. Nichols estimated that the fights involved between 100 and 200 people, prompting mall security to shut it down. Officers from Austintown, Beaver, Canfield, Craig Beach, Lowellville, Poland, New Middletown, Springfield Township, Youngstown State University and Youngstown city responded to a call from township police for mutual aid.

Between 12 and 15 Boardman officers also were involved in subduing the melee. Police sprayed the crowds with pepper spray to help break up the fights, Nichols said.

After leaving the mall lot, some of the groups accused of fighting congregated at Walgreens, JoAnn Fabrics & Crafts and on Southwoods Boulevard, and police arrived at those locations, breaking up those groups too, the chief said.

Police arrested one person, a 16-year-old Youngstown boy, charging him with assault on a police officer, disorderly conduct, obstructing official business, criminal trespass and being an unruly juvenile.

According to a police report, after mall security shut down the festival, police were working crowd control, trying to keep people from re-entering.

About 10 p.m., the juvenile tried to go back in to the festival and ignored an officer’s instructions that he wasn’t permitted to go back in.

The boy is accused of pushing the officer and then raising his fists in a fighting stance, the police report said.

Another officer used a stun gun on the youth, who was taken to Akron Children’s Hospital, Boardman, to have the prongs removed.

The boy initially gave police a different name, resulting in the obstructing charge. He had been reported as a runaway.


1aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago


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2Lifes2Short(3882 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

Once again nothing but a pack of animals running around like they just escaped from the zoo. Pitiful.

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3Silence_Dogood(1657 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

Maybe they could put up a blind and have Jane Goodall sit in and observe. Better yet we could get Federal funding thru YSU and have the students from the University sit in and do observations for a class assignment.

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4Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

This discussion has been going on since the last report on the Mall Fights, found here:


Keep in mind when you generalize terms such as "Youngstown, inner-city, urban" your including people that don't portray the same ideals and values associated with this negativety.

Obviously, you must live in upstanding Boardman/Poland/Canfield where these loose terms are thrown around without caution and without any rational sense.

Maybe if you tried to be more respectful, and contribute positively to our community, we wouldn't have such a segregated society and there wouldn't be reasons for kids and adults alike to fight.

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5casper77(136 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

That is the wrong thing to do is close the fair down early. I say , stay open late on Fri. and Sat. to show these PUNKS we will not run and hide because of you. People should show up in numbers to the Fair. Shutting down early , you are telling them ,you win , we are going to close before dark ,you can have the night. Stand up people!!! Youngstown and the surrounding areas will never change their image as long as these COWARDS ,who think they are men because people fear them when they act as a mob, but find them one on one, they are all weak ,mama boys. And it's time the youth in this area to stand up too. We know you are not all that way, most are GREAT kids. Go to the Fair, shout no more, we will not run. Lets make this area a SAFE place to bring your family ,a place to be proud of. No more ,Youngstown THUG CITY. How about Youngstown FUN CITY

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61970mach1(1005 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

Teenagers have been causing problems at festivals since I can remember. Stupid teenagers do stupid things, regardless of their race.

Many of the inner city thugs are more brazen than their suburban punk contemporaries, but they all are annoying and should be subject to zero tolerance.

Someone in a thread about this referenced how Easton does it at their mall and they don't have problems. It will come to that here, too.

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7walter_sobchak(2597 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

How is at that between 100 to 200 people were fighting/rioting/whatever and only one arrest is made?!? It would seem to me that the non-lethal thing to do would be to pepper-spray the rioters and handcuff/shackle/lasso them when they are on the ground. Then, we would have names and addresses of these fine citizens so we can stop all the stereotyping. Maybe they should also consider a wand search for weapons. But, when a group of kids get together with a "pack" mentality, they must be dealt with harshly and forcefully. These kids want to play by their own rules and not those, as Judge Smails said, of a decent society. Sorry, time to crack a few skulls!

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8Progress(58 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

You think this was bad, just wait til June 12th and the Snoop Dogg concert...

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9havinmysay(155 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

"How is at that between 100 to 200 people were fighting/rioting/whatever and only one arrest is made?!?"

Good question. I would love to know the total attendance numbers for the event that night. I find it hard to believe that there were hundreds of people fighting and only one person was arrested. It makes no sense at all.

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10MFC997(261 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

As I said previously ... import private security from Idaho and hold the carnival in an area not on the bus line. These people are not very sophisticated. Most of this trash and their families are not productive enough in society to even own a car hence their reliance on public assistance, including transportation. Vigorous security coupled with restricted access will decrease such incidents ... significantly.

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11amishheaven(2 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

I am an eye witness to the arrival of the officers. There was additional departments called (Campbell, Springfield, Berlin Center, and Mill Creek and The Ohio Highway Patrol) In fact the only think left to call in was the National Guards, I even had a BPD comment to me that it was even safe for him to b e there. That statement needs to never be made by an officer.

I feel that the was a panic button pushed or BDP is just now use to this but still should have the training for it. There was alot of tax money wasted on this call.

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12MFC997(261 comments)posted 5 years, 11 months ago

Very true psyker. Despite a ton of legislative advantages and some well publicized successes the argument could be made that the black race as a whole has not progressed much over the past 40 years and in many ways is getting worse. They have been waiting for the politicians to save them for decades and it all false promise. You can legislate away individual discrimination and segregation but one thing you cannot change is the culture. That has to come from within and it the primary reason for what is ailing the black community. A culture which promotes victimhood over progress, demeans women and glorifies the criminal element. Until the leaders of the black community look in the mirror and decide to take themselves to task over these issues they will continue to bring up the rear as other races and cultures prosper.

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