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Three teens arrested in Warren bat beating case



Published: Tue, July 27, 2010 @ 2:06 p.m.

WARREN

Warren police arrested three teenage boys Tuesday morning and charged them in a fight that left a 15-year-old boy in critical condition with a head injury suffered when he was hit with a baseball bat.

Of the three, Johntee Daniel, 16, faces the most charges — two counts of felonious assault and one count of assault, a misdemeanor.

Jovan Daniel, 15, is charged with one count of felonious assault; and Shawdon Flowers, 15, is charged with one count of complicity to felonious assault.

But police spokesman Sgt. Jeff Cole and the assistant Trumbull County prosecutor handling the case, Stanley Elkins, won’t say which of the three is the boy seen in a video captured on a cell phone assaulting Verdarell Lowery, 15, of Logan Street Southeast.

Elkins said the charges filed relate to three assault victims.

Verdarell remains in critical condition in Akron Children’s hospital, Cole said.

Verdarell was struck while standing in the middle of a large fight on Brier Street at Duke Avenue Southeast at about 8:30 p.m. Wednesday.

Read more in Wednesday’s Vindicator and Vindy.com


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1mrblue(1034 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Take these 3 thugs and their parents and throw the book at them. If you don't, you will be arresting them again real soon for other crimes.

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2nsoger(7 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Better yet, allow the family of the injured to reeturn the bat to the head favor. These animals/future convicts need locked up for good.

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3Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Fry those savages,..

Youthful mischief is one thing but what was committed there wasn't just felonious assault it was flat out attempted murder.

A deliberate attempted murder that was even premeditated with not even a remote degree of self defense.

What they did is depraved and savagely heartless as it gets. Thus there's no way in hell that should be prosecuted as anything but an adult crime.

No way should anybody tolerate when they try to plea to be charged and tried by the far lesser culpability parameters of Juvi statutes.

To include if their parents show no remorse. Force them to assume culpability by suing them for the actions of their offspring.

Along with heroic officer Hipple, the records also reflects great things this Mr. Jeffery Cole officer individual.

I just wonder how in the hell they've managed to have withstood, being associated working with a mass department of deplorable dysfunction so long and remain so different.

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4TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The two Daniel boys' father was shot about a year or two ago. He was known around town and it caught up with him. It's so sad to see them following in his footsteps.

It'll be interesting to see if police start to target the Savage Life gang

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5Fairminded(20 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

There is no such thing as a "Savage Life Gang." These are ALL just unsupervised teens. Yes, it's sad that something like this took place but if these teens were under the watchful eye of their parents, who knows if this would have EVER occured.

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6murph8(4 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

put them and the parents in jail

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7TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Fairminded, you don't know what you are talking about.

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8Fairminded(20 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

TB unless YOU are an "urbanite" and you have more insite to share, mabe it is you thant does not know. Care to share?

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9shutyourface(246 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

He knew exactly what he was doing. Charge his butt as an adult.

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10Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

These young boys are now confused . Their actions in THE HOOD are seen as natural and cool . Now they have been arrested for nothing more than having fun . The intolerance of mainstream society will cause these boys to become hateful . Taking them away from their families and imprisoning them will cause undue emotional stress . They need the nurture and support of their families . Are we as a society that insensitive ?

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11dcheck(9 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Stan ... your kidding, right? "Intolerance of mainstream society"? Being intolerant of this act is nothing more than "having fun". If this is considered having fun, and we are intolerant of this, then society needs to be bring this culture up to speed and be taught proper morals.

I hope you were being sarcastic and I misunderstood. I hope I misunderstood your post.

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12Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

They better set a example of these cold hearted useless waste of human flesh cockroaches. You DO NOT attack another person from behind. That is nothing but a sick cowardly act.

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A...

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13johnrice(2 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Fairminded --- SAVAGE is more or less a gang at the least it is a 'crew'. A crew whose mentality and actions contribute to incidents just like this.

Not saying that these kids (savage) intended for this to happen or participate in such barbarism, but thinking your hard, talking crap and always trying to intimidate and even fight easier targets definately contributed to this happening.

If it was not for SAVAGE I do not think Verdarell would have even been there.

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14Silence_Dogood(1375 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBV4b_...

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15Fairminded(20 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"Savage life Gang" or not....it does NOT take away from the fact that the boy getting hit by the bat or it be the boy doing the hitting, THE PARENTS WERE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND leaving these kids to run the streets. When I was a teen my behavior was as correct as possible knowing my parents were near.

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16Lifes2Short(3878 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

fairminded

"THE PARENTS WERE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND"

1. Parent/s can't watch their kids 24/7.
2. Do some parent/s really care?
3. Do some of the kids nowadays really care what there parent/s say?
4. Go out in the public and see how these kids talk back to there parent/s or any elder person. It's disgusting. No respect whatsoever.
5. Some kids nowadays think there above everybody and everything and have that "don't give a sh@#" attitude and think there so invincible.
6. It's a shame.

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17TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Fairminded, that enough proof for you?

Now do us a favor and shut up because you don't know what you're talking about.

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18Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

dcheck :
"Stan ... your kidding, right?"

This just simply a case study in SENSITIVITY 101 . You see,even a snapping turtle has feelings . When it has it's jaws locked on your flesh it is feeling good about itself . Life as these boys know it has been upset . Being incarcerated is traumatic for them . I am contemplating going into politics and running for something . I may need these good old boys from the hood votes later . So I am trying to establish that like a snapping turtle these boys may have a right to inflict pain so that they can feel good about themselves and have a purpose in life .

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19TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I know one of them is dead.

Fairminded was wrong about the gang aspect that I posted about,

Making assumptions ISN'T the same as knowing.

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20Silence_Dogood(1375 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

In way to many cases it is not,"Where's the daddies?", but is in fact 'WHO'S THE DADDIES'S'.

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21TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

These boys all know who their fathers are.

Please try again.

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22Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Check the DNA databases and you might get lucky locating the fathers .

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23TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

As I've told you TWICE USA, since you can't remember, two of the boys have a dead father. I'm not sure of the status of the other's.

Again, they know who their fathers are.

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24Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Unless a DNA test was done I wouldn't bet on who the fathers were for any of them .

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25TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Shame on you Stan. I could say the same about your mother if I thought you had one.

"How did they die? So two are dead and the third is in parts unknown."

Since you have a hard time reading, TWO of the boys are brothers. If you simply scroll up, you will see that I said their father was dead. He was shot. I don't know the other one. I don't know if he is involved in his son's life. I wouldn't make any assumptions either way.

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26TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Why not just come out and say what you guys really want. Quit beating around the bush.

Is there ANYONE ON THE PLANET that doesn't understand that having a father involved in a child's life is probably a good thing?

However, for you three, this is a way to score political points, off three kids who grew up in poverty, surrounded by violence.

Quit using it to complain or as a case study and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU USELESS KEYBOARD JOCKEYS

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27TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Quit using it to complain or as a case study and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU USELESS KEYBOARD JOCKEYS

Deny your responsibility in this situation. Deny any responsibility for anything larger than your living room.

There are a myriad of things you could do within the community, but doing so would require a little effort. It's easier to turn this into some sort of political crusade instead of getting to the real issue.

We have a whole slew of kids with NO chance to succeed through no fault of their own. And you all will do nothing for them, barring rattling away at paper tigers on a website.

Must be nice to sleep at night in your delusions

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28Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

TB :
"Quit using it to complain or as a case study and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU USELESS KEYBOARD JOCKEYS"

I don't have the authority to spring those boys . They'll just have to go through the system . I find their case similar to the snapping turtle that locked on to the boys face in Warren not too long ago . The snapper was given an injection of drugs to feel good and relax . His victim was stiched up and the snapper was set free . Just as it was for the snapper it was natural for the boys to do what they did . Shouldn't they be treated as well as the snapper was ? I'm sure that they would like an injection of drugs to feel good and be set free .

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29TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

That's not all you can do you smug lazy pompous good for nothing. You know there are other avenues, but you refuse. It's easier to sit and shoot from the sidelines.

How very Christlike of you

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30Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

Well TB :

The best that I can do is to give you contact information for Dave Betras . He is the only one in the area who may be able to get these boys out of their jam . There is a chance that he may take the case PRO BONO for the publicity .

http://www.bhlaws.com/

1-800-457-2889

EMAIL PAGE

http://www.bhlaws.com/CM/Custom/Conta...

If Dave wont take the case try here . . ..

http://www.probono.net/

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31TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

Shift and dodge and duck responsibility for the plight of our inner city youth some more...that's right...none of you are responsible for anything outside your immediate sphere.

again Stan, the Pope must be very pleased by your postings and your actions to help people less fortunate than you

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32Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

Listen,..

Where the racist name gaming only shows the imbecilic idolatry of ingrates that do it. Although the excuse generators make it no better.

It's not about race, age nor gender it's about actions and mindset that results in conduct.

Father, no father, residential area, race, age, gender, what others do and any other excuse one would like to present is all baseless BS.

As people we have individual choice and conscious and our actions reflect our choices.

No parent is expected to have their child within arms reach 24/7. Where to allege that as a fault or flaw is the logic of a fan dancing Fool.

Kids are going to have skirmishes just as adults and with maturity we're supposed to rationalize better.

However, for that savage to tip around that unsuspecting kid to deliver that blow with a weapon was exactly as telling, revealing and indefensible as it gets.

Just like the other savage that stomped the injured kids head is a personal display of how cunning and treacherous he is.

See those are displays that not only cross the line of sensibility or civility. They also don't happen on the spur of the moment.

Those are conscious acts of those displaying that they can't be coexisted with, shown leniency nor trusted.

Which if you're going to even hope for civility it's those that display such predatory manner and acts like those two. That shows as individuals they have to be gotten rid of. I don't care what race you or they are or if you're a parent or not.

See no matter how peaceful or spiritual one is. Some things are just resolute. Where there's no more definite of a display to make one embrace, that by choice and insistence there's no social nor personal good in all.

Why any consideration of mercy or tolerance is vacated by various acts and none are more profound than what we saw those two savages do.

So take it out of the non applicable race, age, neighborhood or gender gap.

Like it or not place it in the accurate and non biased category of indefensible individual conduct. Because THAT'S what was displayed and those two are to be recognized and dealt with for what THEY damn did as individuals.

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33Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

StoogeSA,..

Listen here you fickle fermented fecal festooned fruitcake.

You could live a a million years and not develop and inkling of worth to humanity. Where no matter how timorously you try to angle this as a racial issue you're failing pathetically.

See unlike you I'm a real man, an American and along with posing no ill will to mankind. I'm nobodys fool nor puppet and I don't masquerade for nor take sh_t off anybody.

See as the total opposite's I'm one that values, protects and defends all innocence and don't put blinders on as any deflective device to even try to color code intolerable behavior,.. judicially criminal or not.

HERE'S TO THE POT -VS- KETTLE FACTS:

1. Would you like to know the races, ages and home values of the savages that gave us the horrible Columbine High school ordeal?

2. How vivid is your recollection of young Andy Williams of Santa Ana High school random and rampant shooting acclaim?

3. How about Paducah Kentucky's Heath High Schools favorite savage that

4. How about the crazed and cunning 14 year old killer in Cleveland that desired to wipe out his school mates in 2007.

5. How about the murderous mayhem planned massacre that was foiled in N.J. in 2009

See just like the savages with the bat that I'll damn sure not defend nor uphold. In a diverse manner of decorum.

In those mere 5 instances I've jarred your thoughtless with. Those culprits were all teens, all indefensible, the vast majority were pretty well provided for in suburbia, and youth of dual parent's,.. and they were also all caucasians.

Where unlike you I'm not stupid, ignorant, dumb nor prejudiced. I genuinely have zero tolerance for your F'd up brand of foolery and you're to continue to ferment and fester in your own flavinoids of flatulence.

See, there was a need to reintroduce you to those horrible acts of savagery and make you sound like the good for nothing and means nobody well fool that you are.

Where unfortunately we could go on and on for days, weeks and months citing an array of atrocious acts of such malice.

That has no color coding and absolutely ransacks your race, locality, economic class and parental theorem's of tilted table and twisted views treachery.

See you mealy mouthed maggot manifestation of malfeasance. There's not a damn thing you can say about refuting what I just you

You're the very facts deficient, forked tongued, bug eyed, bat winged race baiting abominable A-hole that I'd said you are.

Where since you like to play politics with everything. In a political sphere I'm no delusional revisionist nor divisionalist.

Now, just like I genuinely respect and care about all mankind and will not tolerate besmirching nor disparaging based upon race, gender nor economic class.

Let the record reflect you have no such sense, integrity nor values. So balls to you, you fiendishly frazzled freaked out Teabagger brand treachery troll.

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34TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

I wasn't TALKING TO YOU USA1. It clearly says Stan.

Get off the computer and go volunteer at a Boys and Girls club.

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35Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

TB :
"I wasn't TALKING TO YOU USA1. It clearly says Stan. "

I provided free ( PRO BONO ) consulting services on getting help for these poor misunderstood boys . They need the full support of their families which they are unable to while imprisoned . These fun loving boys are truly unique . This arrest has them seriously traumatized . I sure hope that they dont end up being hateful toward society .

Have you tried contacting Dave Betras yet ? He may be these boys best bet to get off scott free .

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36HaydenThomas(208 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

This is just microcosm of the dumbing down of America. The less educated procreate in large quantities while the more educated have fewer children. The result is a society of animals who commit hideous crimes like this. Poverty breeds poverty and respect for life is almost nonexistent.

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37Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

StoogeSA

Be it known you're quiet the hilarious manic monkey from hell,.. LMAO !!!

Now you''re so delusional you're trying to call those individuals " white trash ". Just because they were re-presented in a relative manner of depravity.

So see now you're screeching like a banshee it ruins your crackpot color coding theorem as a crazed klan cloaked crackhead.

See neither skin coloring nor gender, age, locality or anything else as a collective generality. Has anything specific to do with right, wrong, civility, criminality, nor one being good, bad or smart or stupid.

Thus the racial barbs your trying infuse to parse as some disparaging disconnect the different skin colors. Is tasteless, baseless, foolish and non necessary you nefarious nitwit.

So the best you could think to do was offer your bozo variety banana peels to slicken the path. Where you're alleging Boardman, Poland, Canfield or Lowellville. As some serial sidetrack Shangrila's. of any relevance or importance.

Where in spite of them not even remotely being regal grounds of any royalty. Has nothing nor anything to do with this in your cornucopia of quackery there Corn-holio.

Although to employ descriptive terminology as a manner of accommodating your penchant for pigeon holing. I don't play the race game or gender gerrymandering so I can care less what color your pelt is or what bits you're stuck with.

However, you're duly displayed that you're trash, dumb, diabolical, stupid, cunning, baseless, aimless, dishonest and shameless.

To include and aside from being worthless, useless, deranged, reprehensible, hapless and hilarious,.. and neither your race, age or gender has anything to do with it.

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38TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

Stan can I have your number to put these kids in touch?

"Do you work for a living, pay taxes,etc. If you did you'd be too tired to volunteer to do anything."

Actually I do and I still find time to volunteer.

All i see are excuses and misdirections. Are you two gonna actually do something about the problem OTHER THAN post a bunch of nonsense on here or will you actively get involved?

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39Marine(1 comment)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

There is an East side gang located in Warren that uses the word "Savage" in their moniker. This was a fight betwen the East and West side of Warren. The father of 2 brothers arrested was shot in the parking lot of "Benji Brown" roughly 2 years ago for a crime he had earlier committed.

As far as these "poor young boys" not having parental guidance; well they did. The mother watched them commit the crime.

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40TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

Savage Life...the other might be Five Star

not much of a gang though...petty theft, minor drug dealing...trying to make their way up though

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41angelohio(19 comments)posted 4 years, 3 months ago

Please ,enough with blaming their childhoods. I'm tired of hearing about cold blooded, cruel, inhumane people getting a free ride because of their childhood. These young men knew it was wrong to beat someone with baseball bat. They knew it was wrong for three of them to attack one person. I think they should receive adult sentencing , they are responsible for their behavior , I have known many rise above their not so pleasant childhoods. Please stop giving them excuses

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