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After two years, downtown scaffolding remains



Published: Wed, July 21, 2010 @ 12:01 a.m.
  Downtown Scaffolding

Scaffolding on a downtown Youngstown building may be coming down.

Scaffolding on a downtown Youngstown building may be coming down.

By DAVID SKOLNICK

skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

There will be more scaffolding added to a downtown building before the current protective support system comes down.

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A downtown Youngstown building still has scaffolding around it two years after it was erected. .

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The owners of a downtown Youngstown building on the corner of Wick Avenue and Commerce Street say they plan to take care of the structureÕs exterior problems. That would lead to the removal of scaffolding thatÕs been around the building for more than two years..

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A downtown Youngstown building still has scaffolding around it two years after it was erected. Sharon Letson, executive director of Youngstown CityScape, says the scaffolding adversely impacts the look of downtown..

After doing nothing for two years with the metal tower surrounding the building on the corner of Wick Avenue and Commerce Street, Park South Development Co. LLC recently submitted plans to the city to replace its granite exterior. The plans should be approved by the city shortly.

But some city officials and downtown advocates are skeptical about the company’s proposal that came about the same time as an article in The Vindicator about city plans to take legal action against the building’s owners.

“Have they hired a contractor? When would the work start and when would it end?” asked Sharon Letson, executive director of Youngstown CityScape, an organization involved in downtown landscaping and planting flowers.

“For two years, we’ve done nothing but look at scaffolding. The city has to hold them accountable,” Letson said. “For two years, nothing has happened. If they have a plan, the city has to hold them to that plan and require them to move forward.”

Park South put up the scaffolding at the nine-story building that now houses PNC Bank in May 2008 at the city’s insistence after the company finally acknowledged that two large pieces of granite fell from the structure about 40 feet to the sidewalk below three years earlier.

Nothing has fallen since then, but Park South has been in litigation with the Cincinnati Insurance Co., the building’s insurance company, over the replacement of the granite.

Park South had told city officials in October 2009 that the exterior work would be done quickly, but nothing has been done to date.

A city-issued permit allowing the scaffolding to remain expired Jan. 24. City officials said they would deny an extension to Park South and had planned to sue the business for violating city code regarding the scaffolding and unsafe condition of the building.

In late June, The Vindicator left telephone messages for Park South about the issue and published an article June 24 on the city planning to file a civil suit against the company. A day later, Park South submitted a proposal to the city’s building department to replace the granite exterior on the building’s main tower portion.

Brenda Williams, the city’s chief building official, said she expects to approve the designs either later this week or early next week. Park South needs approval for its plans from the city’s design-review committee. Also, the company would need a building permit, something Williams said shouldn’t be a problem.

A new building permit means the company has up to 12 months to make the improvements. That also means more scaffolding would be needed, Williams said.

Even with the new plans, Mayor Jay Williams said the city will still consider taking legal action against Park South for keeping the scaffolding up six months after its permit expired.

“The issuance of plans doesn’t change the fact that we want the problem resolved and the scaffolding removed,” the mayor said. “I hope this is not a plan to extend the time with the scaffolding. If they move promptly, then it would be OK to have scaffolding. More scaffolding would mean they’re doing work.”

David Rizzuto, director of operations and finance for Pan Brothers, Park South’s parent company, said Tuesday: “We’re hoping to do what we have to do and get it done as quickly as possible.”

When asked about the cost and the time frame, Rizzuto said he didn’t have an answer. The company will continue its legal action against the insurance company while replacing the granite, he said.

Park South wants the insurance company to pay $3 million to replace all the granite, which the company says wasn’t installed correctly. Also, Park South says the current granite isn’t made anymore, and all of it needs to be replaced with the cost covered by the insurance company.

In a January court filing, Park South’s attorney said the company would settle the lawsuit for $1.8 million.

Both companies say it was a combination of strong winds, hidden decay, defective material and/or a defective method of installing the granite that contributed to the two panels’ falling.

Park South wants Cincinnati also to pay for the scaffolding. That expense is close to $70,000 and increasing by $76 a day.

Cincinnati is willing to pay about $15,000 to replace the two pieces of granite, and nothing for the scaffolding.

A magistrate ruled Sept. 1, 2009, in favor of the insurance company. But Judge Maureen Sweeney of Mahoning County Common Pleas Court overruled the magistrate’s decision. In her Sept. 23, 2009, decision, she said the insurance policy language, written by Cincinnati Insurance, was too vague and therefore should favor Park South.

The two sides failed to come to an agreement at a January mediation. Another mediation session is scheduled for Aug. 30. If that also fails, a jury trial is set for Nov. 16.

Some locals involved in downtown question whether the city should grant a one-year permit to Park South based on the company’s inaction the past two years. A year ago, Park South officials said the work would be done even with the pending lawsuit.

“I’m skeptical they’ll do the job when they’ve done nothing for two years,” said Richard Mills, president of the Ohio One Corp., which owns five downtown buildings. “Shame on all of them for taking this long.”

While a standard building permit allows the property owner 12 months to finish the work, the city has the option of issuing conditional permits.

But Brenda Williams said that is done in “extraordinary circumstances” and that’s not the case with this building — even though it’s had scaffolding in front of it for more than two years.

Also, she received the designs nearly a month ago but won’t act on them until the end of this week or early next week.

“Unless there are extraordinary conditions, I review projects in the order I receive them,” she said. “Yes, they have a track record of not repairing the problem. But extraordinary conditions would be if the building is in immediate need of repair because it poses an imminent danger. The public’s in no danger at this point, and I’m incredibly backlogged with projects.”

Mills argued that eliminating the scaffolding should be a top priority for the city.

“The scaffolding is disgusting, embarrassing and pitiful,” he said. “I wonder why it took two years to get this going.”


Comments

1oldmillspice(160 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Thats a first ! It has'nt been stolen yet ????

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2GTX66(343 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

It isn't made out of copper, that is why.

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3Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

This just compliments the bums roaming the downtown looking for easy victims, I mean donors . We have had the bums for far more than two years . Perhaps they could be hired at city hall ? At least the scaffolding never robbed anybody .

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4CBDactivist(123 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Stan,
What does your comment even mean? We know the Scaffolding never robbed anyone, and downtown is still one of the safest places to be.

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5joly1584(23 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Where have you been censoredship?

There is a farmer's market on central square every Tuesday from 11:30 to 3:00.

Last summer there were some musicians playing on the square during lunch hour on Friday's, although I have not seen any yet this year.

The Realty Building has recently been converted into apartments. With rent starting @ $1200.00/mo that may not be reasonbly priced for most people.

Have you seen the new facades on the Lemon Grove and Rosetta Stone on West Federal. Several other facades have been cleaned up.

Come downtown and take a look at everything-not just what you see on the news. You may be pleasantly surprised.

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6Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

CBDactivist :
"Stan,
What does your comment even mean? We know the Scaffolding never robbed anyone, and downtown is still one of the safest places to be. "

YES, YES . . .. The recent robbery next to police station highlights the safety of the downtown .

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7woolyd(579 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Yeah the scaffolding is the problem of Youngstown. Not the high crime rate, the murders, and the lack of a solid school system. Keep worrying about the scaffolding people everything else is all good

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8One_Who_Stayed(237 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Hey Cencoredship, you really should get down here more often. . . virtually all aof the things you said we "should" do are already there.

There is a Farmers Market every Tuesday. There are Restraunts and bars all over the place with a very happening night-life and there are no weeds poking through the pavement (in the video, you are looking at the profile of a median strip that has plants in it.

Come down and have some fun - the area is very pleasantly different from what you are remembering it as.

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9One_Who_Stayed(237 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Which robbery would that be STAN?

The one you heard one of your buddies talking about that he heard from someone who comes down here every other month?

And yeah - woolyd - we should just not do anything but give up like you do. I'd like to have an end to hunger and world peace, but it's kinda out of my capability - so I do what I can instead - just like we're doing here.

It IS all good.

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10Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

One_Who_Stayed :

"Which robbery would that be STAN?

The one you heard one of your buddies talking about that he heard from someone who comes down here every other month?"

http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/jul/03...

So you must just come downtown every six months or so ? Do come more often and bring plenty of cash . I hear that far too many times that those credit cards get cancelled before the solicitors get a chance to use them .

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11oldstown(198 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

The only thing that "adversely impacts" the look of downtown Youngstown is DOWNTOWN YOUNGSTOWN. Scaffolding schmaffolding...they shoud just consider themselves lucky the building actually has a tenant and doesn't look like the Kress or the Paramount...yet.

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12ccrascal(3 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

This building was once known as the Dollar Bank building, the granite facade or skin was installed in the 60's, before that, the building was a rusty red colored stone that was in the "beaux arts" style,with a lot of elaborately carved cornices and window surrounds, popular when the building was built in the late 19'th, early 20th century. Under the "modern"cover or "skin" of granite is the original elaborate stonework that fell out of style in the 60's.

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13Thewatchdog(25 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

You mean the scaffolding did not collapse when the earthquake struck a few weeks back, Maybe PNC workers need to go home until the scaffolding is removed. Thank god the county does not have workers in this building.

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14city_resident(513 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

"I've been to Lemon Grove and didn't really have a stellar experience there. No one eating dinner and they were on a grocery run and out of just about everything we tried ordering :( Aside from that, it's an interesting place --- I liked the decor, artistic touches and the fact that they have good microbrewed beer available. Yep, their exterior is beautified also."

The Lemon Grove just opened late last fall, so, depending on what part of winter you visited, they might have still been going through their initial growing pains.

"They don't have food either, and as such it's a bar and I don't do bars."

What do you mean RS didn't "have food either?" I've eaten there a number of times, and haven't had an alcoholic drink there yet. I don't know anything about their financial status, except that I recently read that they will be opening a new club in their basement soon.

"As for the Realty Building,.."

I agree that the rents are rather high. But, the Federal Building (next door the Rosetta Stone) is currently being converted to more affordable apartments.

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15sweatpea(122 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Is this the same building that had the windows falling out onto the sidewalk?

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16woolyd(579 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

ONE WHO STAYED obviously you dont understand that my comment was of a sarcastic nature. So let me explain I think it is stupid and bad management to worry about scaffolding when there are so many other more pressing issues. Crime and homicides are more pressing issues for me not damn scaffolding.

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17city_resident(513 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

sweatpea, no. This is not that building.

censoredship, not that I'm aware of. The downtown events coordinator does this to some extent, but I think she is more involved with promoting events. :)

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