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Valley ranks high in least-educated areas of the US



Published: Tue, July 20, 2010 @ 12:09 a.m.

By Denise Dick

denise_dick@vindy.com

The city made another “worst of” list, this time for being least educated.

A story on Huffingtonpost.com lists the Youngstown metropolitan area as number 93 out of 100 in proportion of adults 25 and older with a bachelor’s degree.

“The relatively low education levels of adults in these metropolitan areas pose an important barrier to their growing more productive industries, achieving greater economic diversity, and boosting the local standard of living,” says the study upon which the story was based.

The data is from 2008. The Web site’s story is from a study, “State of Metropolitan America” by the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institute.

Tony Paglia, vice president of government affairs at the Youngstown-Warren Regional Chamber, said one thing the Chamber is focusing on is improving academics in kindergarten through 12th grade and increasing the number of students who go to college and earn their degrees.

The 19 percent of people 25 and older with a bachelor’s degree in the Youngstown metropolitan area is below the state average of 23 percent and the national average of 25 percent.

With Youngstown State University’s enrollment increasing, though, those numbers may improve as more people locate in the area after earning their degrees, Paglia said.

The chamber targets improved education because education level of the population is one factor considered when businesses choose a location, he said.

The study says the metro areas with the lowest college attainment rates include ones in California’s Central Valley, along the Texas border and in older industrial centers of the Northeast, Midwest and Southeast.

Stephanie Shaw, executive director of the Eastern Ohio P-16 Partnership for Education, said ensuring that students at all levels of education are prepared is one of the aims of the organization which spans Mahoning, Trumbull, Columbiana and Ashtabula counties.

There’s no communication, for example, between preschool and kindergarten teachers when a student makes the transition between the two levels. The partnership plans readiness summits between the two so each can learn from the other about what they think is proper preparation for a student entering kindergarten.

Other efforts are planned or under way at the other levels of education.

“The ultimate aim is to help [students] to be successful in life,” Shaw said. “That’s different for each student.”

The rest of the bottom 10 includes five California cities, Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, Fresno, Stockton, Modesto and Bakersfield, which are Nos. 7, 6, 4, 2 and 1 respectively; No. 5, Lakeland, Fla.; No. 3, McAllen, Texas; No. 10, Scranton, Pa.; and No. 9, El Paso, Texas.

“These regions have historically been home to industries such as manufacturing, agriculture and shipping, for which a college degree was not a prerequisite to obtaining a good-paying job,” the study says.

The Washington, D.C.,-Arlington-Alexandria, Va. area topped the list of most educated area followed by Bridgeport, Conn., and San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, Calif.

No Ohio cities made the top 10.


Comments

1theguins(164 comments)posted 4 years ago

Even with increased enrollments at YSU. This will have little effect in future if there are few jobs available. Looking at list. All the California cities have major Universities located within them. UC Riverside, Fresno State, California-Bakersfield. UTEP in El Paso, TX. You can get a degree in those cities. You just can't find a job in those cities (that require college degree).

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2WilliamP(68 comments)posted 4 years ago

"The city made another “worst of” list, this time for being least educated."

Nice lead in, Denise. Nice job piling on.

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3iBuck(212 comments)posted 4 years ago

Well, statistically, people with more academic credentials experience less unemployment. OTOH, there are a lot of autodidacts who are quite able and willing to do advanced scientific research or high-tech... and there are a lot of unemployed and under-employed science, tech, engineering and math workers in the USA, now. Nobody cares whether you've got a PhD in engineering or physics or computer science or biophysics when you're serving coffee or selling jeans or pet-sitting.

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4YTownBred(30 comments)posted 4 years ago

Horraay!!! We're famous again! This award we didn't even have to work hard for! Youngstown Pride 4eva! Oops, for ever.

Blame the schools, blame the students, and blame the parents. Hell, it's multiple choice and all three fit the culprit to the problem.

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5venuschild(21 comments)posted 4 years ago

the data is from 2008, is this really worth reporting? Better late than never I guess! I went to Western Reverse high skool so huh? look at all the educated unemployed folks, is it worth going to college so employers can just tell you your over qualified?

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6indc(3 comments)posted 4 years ago

Wow, a liberal website (Huffington Post) telling everyone that business can't prosper unless the masses are educated. I'm puzzled because that's not keeping with the Democrat party line - keep the masses dumb, uneducated, and needy and they will be dependent upon the government which can then control them. What's up with the Huffington Post???

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7jr99(88 comments)posted 4 years ago

Not a big surprise at all. Just read the comments left by people on this website (including some of the comments with this article) and you'll know how uneducated people in this area are. Look no further than the misspelling and bad grammar, and that will tell you why they can't land good jobs.

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8Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

Factual but misleading,..

Come on folks it's no mass put down and don't smear the messenger,..

See where it's to be understood that smaller towns and cities aren't known as hotbeds for finding a flock of proverbial brainiacs.

But also fact is counting bachelor’s degrees in a per capita manner. Certainly isn't the true nor accurate barometer of gauging the level of tapped or untapped intellect in the area.

See college educations are extended field studies in an array of specific. Where how advanced they are to an individual, is only determined by what level of self education the individual has achieved without college.

See where not to down nor dissuade the pursuit of a formal education. But with emphasis placed on proficiency. Be it known that some of the best mechanics I'd ever met aren't S.A.E. certified not were all the best teachers employed in formal classrooms.

Right along with the best meals I've ever eaten weren't prepared by chefs. The most naturally gifted at what they do be it in the fields of repair personnel, designers, seamstress and an array of other service provided capacities. Aren't always synonymous with those with formal certificate degrees by profession either

See small towns are actually the bedrocks for where the best minds come from. Where unfortunately in pursuit of being cited as a noteworthy best at what they do. As well as being recruited for various positions a great number of them leave.

Yet the tutelage goes on and the cycle continues as a manner of business and a pattern of life.

So take that into consideration and don't take that " pure academics " study. As a bombastic bludgeoning calling or citing the entire or vast majority of the areas populous morons.

To include the reality that not all pursue or were afforded the opportunity to acquire a college education.

But that damn sure doesn't mean they were nor are mentally inadequate or incapable of matching wits with the best of them.

The only damning thing that generally festers in small towns. Are embraced bias and prejudices that taints the areas potential by cleaving to ignorance.

Hence is what those like myself sometimes come back to impart what we've learned and thus know. About not leaving such as any mystery for those that may need the insight sharing fellowship.

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9Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@jr99

Like clockwork,..

How fitting because here you are. Epitomizing the exact type of imbecilic individual. That attempts to gauge collective intellect in a manner of those calculable numbers.

A study that cites dynamics of the non educated variety senseless cohabitants by didactic demographics. Where casting a guesstimation of those like you whom detract away from the intellect of a given area.

See unless one is hired as an editor or spokesperson of sorts. The variances of an applicants skill proficiency, aptitude and intelligence. Has little if anything to do with grammar or word perfect spelling,.. or landing a good job.

Where I'm not one to hesitate in citing Y.S. Shrew as a failure. But being fair I'll damn sure not blame you on them.

See in my having weighed in previously. I'd also even cited your variety as those self victimized by cleaving to your own ignorance,.. and PRESTO you show up.

Where with character and relevant field knowledge qualifications being equal, if not greater parts of an individuals collective fitness.

Be it known that no matter how well you spell, memorize grammatical syntax or any other conic form of inscription etchings.

Via grading you out in collective some using alphabetical symbol of pass or fail in elementary form,.. YOU'RE all F'd up there jr..

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10palbubba(664 comments)posted 4 years ago

Increased enrollment at YSU does not automatically mean an increase in degrees. If the graduation rate does not stay the same or increase, nothing changes. The only way this will change is when the quality of family life improves. Most children do not like going to school, and if there is no requirement by parents the level of education will not improve. The government only knows one solution, throw more money at the problem which without REQUIRED results is a recipe for failure. The definition of insanity is to continue to do things the same way and expect different results. Not happening

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11sknirak(120 comments)posted 4 years ago

I've noticed that some people who never went to college, did quite well financially for themselves, while others who struggled through university didn't achieve what those non-collegians did.

Having the ability to see a need and fill it doesn't necessarily require a baccalaureate. Realizing that one area of the nation would be better than another for a person's skills is an asset. Being fortunate or tenacious enough to find someone to financially back your business or sports or entertainment talent is sometimes a "flip of the coin" kind of thing.

Then too, there are people who have no inclination or believe they don't need to go to college. Or perhaps some studies in college are of no material or pedagogic use to them. We say to our young people, "Go get an education!" But for them to make their way in the world, is one absolutely necessary?

Thus, the report published in the paper may or may not be of value. Only the reader can make that call.

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12Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@StoogeSA

Oh Sheesh,..

We've been expecting you, and it was anticipated that you'd ridiculously refuse. To allow " jr " to be the only nitwit variety nemesis that demands to be tabulated,.. LMAO !!!

Where to mark your Pavlovian presence. It appears that when the low end of anything is mentioned. It's as if a beacon or homing device goes off on your collar and it forces you to Howl.

In your never ending quest to so zealously promote your " Never underestimate the power of your Stupidity " mantra.

You remind me of a piece we did a while back where after a steady stream of sensible and subdued individuals enter and exit a doorway without incident.

Then there comes the vociferous masked marauder whom makes his entrance by forcefully pushing on a well tensioned spring loaded screen door.

Where in attempting to block the door and posturing in the prose of a bad Bob pose. In the midst of his duplicitously draconian delivery.

That inanimate door abruptly introduces the anterior of his cranium and mastoid process's to the laws of physics and inertia,.. in a manner of flooring.

Thus forcing all other patrons to both look and step over him in order to proceed going about their business,.. LMAO !!!

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13TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years ago

One big reason for the numbers being as such is the brain drain that occurs. Our best and brightest students go elsewhere for employment because of the lack of opportunities here at home. An examination of local valedictorians remaining in the local area would be easy enough.

I know in my graduating class, only two of the valedictorians remain in the area. The rest have moved down south, out west, or to Columbus pretty much.

That being said, the lack of education and the desire to improve one's education is appalling in the Youngstown area. It's nearly impossible to educate someone who doesn't wish to be educated.

"The chamber targets improved education because education level of the population is one factor considered when businesses choose a location, he said."
While I agree with this, I have to wonder how supportive the Regional Chamber really is in regards to school districts. When they start sponsoring more school events and endorsing some levies, I might believe their doublespeak. So far, their biggest contribution seems to be a call for countywide systems to save on costs, without any regard to the educational process ever being mentioned in their rationale.

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14Eric(196 comments)posted 4 years ago

This education issue is a two-sided coin. I've lived in many places, and I can honestly say that the Mahoning Valley has some excellent public and private schools (YCS is an exception). But what kind of job opportunities does the Valley offer for those educated students? After completing my graduate degree I ended up relocating south for a job, despite my desire to stay in the area. Lack of jobs requiring an education results in a lack of an educated workforce, while lack of an educated workforce results in a lack of jobs. Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

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15Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@DJ-is-a-colon

Oh the mass hysteria,..

Listen,.. we know the area doesn't produce an unlimited stream of infinite wisdom. But while grownups are conversing.

No matter how bad you've soiled yourself. You've absolutely got to learn to contain yourself far better you fly eating floodgate of flatulence

See where I refuse to allow anyone to dare get as much as an inkling. That you're of any majority that encompasses what the area produces,.. you idgit brand iota of isolated ignorance.

Clearly you're a serial of self sufferance and have no other way to plead for assistance in getting cleaned up.

Now with your putrid stench aside. In way of solution for your sad sack simpleton saga. Wouldn't it just been easier if you'd just outright asked for an autograph?,.. really.

See I'm not one to hammer a loose screw. However, since you insist you silly sadist. The questions are posed.

1. Am I a cerebral product of international experience from the area?,.. Yes.

2. Are you from the area as a direct and total complete opposite,.. absolutely.

3. Now which of us pose the unsolicited appeal and interest to note and seek to engage? { even / especially to you },.. pretty damn conclusive isn't it.

Thus, yet and however,... now you just scurry right along and don't allow that study or anything else stop you. From being a mere intermission form of entertainment for those like me.

Where now you can duly continue blaming me, the region, the Gregorian calender, Venus Demilo or Eddy Munster. Or the Easter Bunny, the closing of Idora park, Albert Einstein, tyrannosaurus Rex, Redd Foxx or Ricky Bobby.

Or for that matter for the love of Christ, the advent of locking dumpsters, the vaccine for rabies or whoever or whatever the hell else you'd like. To cite as the reason the stars haven't aligned for your immortal ignorance,

So see there's a wealth of things you can choose from as playing any partial, singular or collective pivotal role.

In the buildup to or completion of your egregious inability to be of any worth, relevance or make any sense you inexcusable excuse laden imbecile,.. ROTFLMAO !!!

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16Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@StoogeSA

Oh and the follow up,..

Where in the midst of the closing credits scrolling. The camera pans to where you've regained your footing.

Showing a panoramic shot of you fastidiously going all Marvin the martian on us all. Spewing your proclamation that since somebody made the stupid door all wrong. By that measure we're all gonna pay { specially me },..ROTFFLMAO !!!

All to the background tune of the Yakkity Sax swing tune that Benny Hill made so famous,.. and fade to black amidst mass laughter.

To some I've been called a creative genius and cinematic wonder. But my creativity would be starved if there were no characters like you

Of course adorned in large patterned hounds tooth shirt, plaid goucho's, vest and over sized gym shoes. With a ten gallon hat atop your 1 oz pail for a head.

So see don't tell me Youngstown doesn't have talent or are we selfish or self centered,.. nope.

See Stooge, you stick with me and I'll even make a recluse like you FAMOUS !!!

That's even as an unrehearsed, non choreographed and unscripted prop,.. ROTFL !!!

Do you have any idea how many people from far and wide. Enjoy tuning in just to enjoy watching me clown out characters like you,..Hmmm?

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17Jake(112 comments)posted 4 years ago

What a shock. An uneducated area is easy pickins for Democrats pushing the same emotional rhetoric election after election, and the voters never figure out why things just get worse.

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18Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@Jake

Ok lets do this,..

If it's all about citing this as an " uneducated area " as a means of it's troubles. If Democrats are alleged to be the culprits. Then what does that say about republicans?

See I'll agree the party designation shell game is a shame that's been played on this areas populous for far too long,.. but it's not just those posing as Democrats.

See as the local electorate via such an infestation of mass corruption. The voters have been forced to have voted in a revolving door of incompetency and crooks.

To which yes those phony's and frauds have wore both the Democrat and Republican brand in alleged designation.

See as an Independent with strong democratic values. I'm of the first to tell voters not to cast their support to a candidate just via D or R or for that fact even an I in party designation.

The residents haven't had real candidates for years and the ruins and rampant corruption shows and proves it.

You've got a majority of alleged democrats and if you know the true selfless values of the party. You'd know damn well there's not a true democrat anywhere down there running amok.

But where are any upstanding republicans?

See I'm not here to make friends, I weigh in with unblemished candor to make a difference. For which I can care less who doesn't like and or fancy what I say.

That's no matter where they perch or what title they hold if they don't deserve it.

See having such a true value in people without bias. I can care less about a party designation or who endorses who.

I'm all about what they stand for and if it's a woman, man, republican, democrat or true Independent that presents their candidacy.

They'll get my vote, endorsement and campaign backing based upon their integrity, values and diligence.

So not impressed with nor by any candidate on the forthcoming ballots. Just where is this elusive upstanding republican you speak of?

Please do tell and lets review them,..

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19najjjj(106 comments)posted 4 years ago

.......and the number one reason Youngstown placed in the bottom ten: Nunya! If Nunya's (and I do hesitate to call it this) writings do come from an individual with a college education.......we are truly doomed. How would it be possible to go thru 16+ years of schooling and have no idea how to form coherent thoughts and sentences? Has there been even one person on these boards who agreed with anything you've written? How could they, when you don't seemingly possess even an elementary grasp of the mechanics of the written word. I can't decide if you are trying to (poorly) emulate the writings of some long gone beat poet, or if you are simply and sadly incapable of communicating with others. Are you aware that all that you write is wasted space? It is so poorly put together and expressed that no one wants to even bother reading it.......let alone try to decipher it. Maybe you should find a way to equip your posts with decoder rings.

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20Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years ago

As long as we got culture and crack
Who cares if academically we don't shine
Crack keeps the monkey off our back
Culture is better than a gold mine
History will judge us well
Of this I am sure
Many will of our history tell
We are sincere and oh so pure
Heaven bound we will be sent
Culture is so divine
Never having to repent
Not your culture, just mine

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21lpolinsky(2 comments)posted 4 years ago

Wish this story wasn't so negative right off the bat. Should have moved the part about YSU's enrollment up and added something about job creation to retain college educated people. If we keep this negative attitude, we will never move forward.

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22Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years ago

As long as the poorly educated masses aren't being employed they will continure to erase civilization as we know it and replace it with their own culture . We need low tech jobs and lots of them to put the masses to work . The bottom line is that 24/7 idle time breeds crime !

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23crafty(16 comments)posted 4 years ago

The failure of educators to connect between preschool and kindergarten? What kind of logic is that?? The PROBLEM is that there are few jobs in this area for degreed individuals, so they move out of the area. Hence, fewer individuals with degrees. And it doesn't take a degree to figure that one out!

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24TB(1167 comments)posted 4 years ago

That's too easy a look at the problem. While Ytown faces the same problems as many other urban areas, you notice these other urban areas aren't included in the article.

The schools in other urban areas, even in Ohio, pretty much perform at the same rate. There are subtle differences, and a few variances in the percentages in the stats pages, but they are all pretty close to each other.

When looking at the issue that way, apparently the problem isn't just the schools. There must be another factor.

I'm inclined to believe it's the "brain drain." Our best and brightest can't find jobs they are qualified for here in the valley so they leave, raising good families and strengthening communities elsewhere. Looking at providing jobs beyond recruiting call centers and Wal-Marts HAS to be a priority. The business incubator downtown is establishing a foothold to develop the sorts of businesses to attract and retain our best.

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25najjjj(106 comments)posted 4 years ago

"All to the background tune of the Yakkity Sax swing tune that Benny Hill made so famous,.. and fade to black amidst mass laughter."
It would be wise to know of whom you speak......you don't even know the difference between Benny Goodman and Benny Hill. Yet another example that you are a mere Tower of Babble and have no idea what you are blathering about.

"Do you have any idea how many people from far and wide. Enjoy tuning in just to enjoy watching me clown out characters like you,..Hmmm?"
My apologies to you, Nunya. It's not nice to pick on the mentally incompetent. Your belief that you are known far and wide clearly suggest that at the very least you suffer from a border-line personality disorder, suffused with heavy leanings towards narcissism.

I'd be interested to know who believes you to be a cinematic genius. What are the titles of your films? Home movies do not count.

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26walter_sobchak(1855 comments)posted 4 years ago

"IF" those who are contributing to the increased enrollment at YSU do actually earn a bachelor's degree, not just an associate degree, just where are they going to put that education to use in the Youngstowm-Warren area? There is not much opportunity here for advancement. And, unfortunately, the families that stressed hard work, achievement, and education left this area 25 to 30 years ago. Thus, the percentage of slackers in our population has increased since the population is waning, causing a variety of problems. It is a vicious cycle that just keeps repeating. This is the problem with the city of Youngstown. Still plenty of good families but the percentage is far, far less. Just look at the scum that were involved with the brawl at City Hall!. Just too many bad people! I know my children will obtain their degrees and will leave the area as there won't be a demand for their skills here since they do not aspire to being drug dealers or crack whores!

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27seminole(476 comments)posted 4 years ago

Nunya, I am completely suprised to learn that with your rambling rhetoric you are some kind of "scientist", errr..."psych" goof, funded by the exact liberals that you spew excellence about. Control the minds of the people with disquised studies and keep everyone in check, ie Obama's brilliant regime. Pontificate if you must, entertaining us with you X rhetoric, but realize no one is fooled by your incoherant postings. We get so much of it from your lib pals so we have had a year and a half of deciphering the rhetoric to where ther is no core value to any of it. We recognize it only as indefensible crimes against this country and it's Constitution.

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28najjjj(106 comments)posted 4 years ago

Seminole, It really is so unfair to place Nunya in any one group. To do that is to say his ramblings make enough sense to be able to somehow categorize them. Believe me, you would be hard pressed to find any political group that would claim him. Remember the old Charlie Brown cartoons? The adult voices were represented by a sound........wah wah wah. That is the only category I can think of that Nunya comes close to fitting. My apologies to the late Charles Schultz.

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29Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@StoogeSA

Jeez..

Madman me?,.. no such luck, see I'm having a great time festively putting the fork to you there you hilarious, hot headed Lil devil,.. LMAO !!!

See amidst your folly of fallacies you messed around and alleged there's no intelligence and or talent that hails from Youngstown.

For which my knowing far better and taking cerebral exception to that lie. I and a host of others have weighed in and duly proven you absolutely and positively wrong there Sunshine.

See here yet again trying to resort to your revisionist script. You've messed around and got it all wrong again too there Mr.De bergerac.

Where now you're caught trying to improvise the script. Where first you get me mixed up with who's " Dummy-ed " you all up.

See because I don't see pink elephants you Piccadilly pig. That's your bespectacled bimbo Sybil Palin who's the one that see's pink elephants,..

I'm not lying,.. http://vodpod.com/watch/3986770-sarah...

Then you lurch into alleging that somehow I'm to be scripted to play you and ole Rush Limberger's anal affixed roles,.. NEVER !!!

Lets refresh your memory,..

Once,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6wSKM...

Twice,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTY3ak...

Now with you sashaying as such a chute snorter.that's pretty damn conclusive there Butt munch,..

So see where I can care less about you not liking the typecast and refuse to play any role in your surreal sphincter features,.. I don't get down like that.

So you can sit there seething in your chiffon and fire off as many quack complaints to central casting as you'd like there plunder Bum.

But there's no business like show business and you're the one whom insisted I allow you to play your role. Now I've done that and thus we've got and have duly established our designated roles here,.. Horatio.

For which I'll ad-lib off your outbursts but I'll not tolerate any swapping of roles nor wardrobe changes or big heading,.. got it there Bro-chacho?

So the show goes on you dysfunctional diva and you're damn well going to perform for the fans,.. it's SHOWTIME !!!

Now come on you you've had more than enough time in makeup before I got here you multi post Piñata.

See clowns like you tried to play goon spoons and got flipped and forked. For which I'll have you know that you can search the world over twice if you'd like.

But I'm the best in damn business at everything I set out to do bar none there you nebulous numskull,.. and I came from right in the heart of Youngstown Ohio

So now that we've established that. What are you a Man there homeboy? Or a flippin manic Minnie mouse that's mad about it to a degree of sadistic sickness there Jizzmo Schmo

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30walter_sobchak(1855 comments)posted 4 years ago

People,
See just ignore the ramblings of Nunya as to respond is just so much encouragement.

Whereas najjjj has correctly put Nunya in the proper category as a babbling cartoon of so much white noise that only the good Lord can decipher.

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31Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@najjjjjjjj

J,.. Je,.., Jee,..Jeez

See aside from asking did the keys or your spring-box get all stuck. As to attribute the excessive presentation of all those Jester-ish " j's " there,.. Schlestack.

Or is it your super secret cryptic encoding of your identity of being a - juxtaposition, jilted jerked out jackal abbreviation code?,.. do tell.

Just the same where you're just angry because you're stupid. I detect your inner afflictions of extreme inferiority complex. Where being as therapeutic as I can for you. By all means it's evident that in your comical coping mechanism.

You've become sole dependent upon playing the blame game. Where those that exasperate your inferiority complex becomes the ire of your insecurity and quizzical quackery.

So by that measure you can blame me, mother Teresa, Zero Mostell, Wilbert Wright, Hermans Hermits, Richard Pryor, Madam Butterfly, George Clinton, Jerry Lewis or Lil boy Fauntleroy. Or whoever the hell else you'd like for your self sufferance of shiftless sad sack syndrome.

But in my demanding results and improvement in recourse. This session will come with a collateral damage cost and a cataclysmic crowing of you. In a fun filled manner of clashing cymbals as a crescendo to knight you there Cooter,..

Now bow for your Bip-Blam-Zooieam and Boom bequeathing you babbling bastion of anointed Sir Bone Headiness.

I hereby recognize you for your being of the witless wonder that you've proven to be there you nebulous know nothing, nobody that doesn't know any better,.. you'd do better if you knew better.

Where it's detected that you're aware that I'm well versed in a plethora of ways of clowning buzzcut barnyard buffoons like you For which you've done a masterful job of doing yourself up { I'll take it from here },... ROTFFLMAO !!!

shamelessly noting that your infatuation with me and my shared perspectives is so apparent.

That one has to presume it's evident you're dejected because I'm not one for having you as a tag-along in my having no interest in forming a fan club you hilarious " j " riddled joke.

See in the train wreck of alphabet soup you've managed to mush mangle as identity muck from your hilarious haters hideaway.

The last thing you needed to try was to draw attention to your implausible presentation, self plundered perspective that your pathetically petulant panhandling presence,.. got that you silly self sufferance rat.

See in your trying to be such the super sleuth. You should have invested in invisible ink to hide your deceit before I lambasted you, you laughable Loon.

So now with your " decoder ring " you dysfunctional dink. Good luck on your saving boxtops to one day acquire the matching tinfoil hat to go along with it?

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32Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years ago

@Wally_ Slobshack

Well after you Alfonzt,..

Along with saying you're far too late to try launching a plea to hide from my wrath now your ridiculously witless whatnot.

Where here we see that you've finally tried to resurface again in futile effort to try to reassemble your thought box that I've dully eviscerated. Of course this is after having serially discredited and humiliated your combo witless and worthless self.

However it's ironic that where the sane and sensible residents and or birthright natives that's remained, returned or relocated. Are collectively weighing in here on a national study.

Which is one that hedges on trying to gauge just how many dummies like you are in the areas populous as dunce detractors by approximation { and you show up },... ROTFLMAO !!!

See Wally, like it or not you damn well know that no matter how much classroom space you've wasted, voided or evaded. It's those like you that are being cited as deplorable dunces and area misgivings.

So you're offended knowing you and those like you are. So cleaving to a notion that the study and myself are somehow picking on you and those like you.

You're feebly trying to form a mechanism to skew your recognition. That you certainly, positively and absolutely are identified. As to not to be counted in the tally of the formally nor informally educated functional[s] the study is trying to determine,.. at all.

See where there's an array of coined references of one being a community asset. And or a patriarch, matriarch, self starter, fast learner, a mans man, woman's woman, naturally gifted, well rounded, players coach, student of the game and a host of other descriptive salutations.

Which Wally, you fit none of those illustrious descriptions you're just flat out super stupid. Where instead of presenting a preponderance of prowess parables.

You and those like you pose as the epitome of one distinguishing the distinction, between the detection of a valuable gem. As opposed to the afflicted manifestation infection of a debilitating germ.

Now you just scurry off continuing to do things like favoring buying your minor children. Illegal and debilitating drinks, cigarettes and narcotics.

As your self professed homegrown manner of adding to the ranks of social dysfunctional[s],.. foolishly breeding your hapless self in replication in your abyss of ignorant bliss.

You deplorably dysfunctional aiding and abettor to hazards and force feeder of failure,.. http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/jun/29...

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33JME(801 comments)posted 4 years ago

"try launching a plea to hide from my wrath"

Look what you did Wally

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34JME(801 comments)posted 4 years ago

I can feel the wordy one's "wrath" coming again.

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35walter_sobchak(1855 comments)posted 4 years ago

Nunya,

Very good! Although you read my posts they obviously haven't sunken in as your head is squarely up your a$$.

Your reference to my post of June 29 is interesting as you believe my children are somehow social misfits and ne'er-do-wells, as you would recognize as if looking at your reflection. My children are no longer minors. But, they are both Eagle Scouts following in the line of other great American men, unlike a babbling baboon as you. And having 4.0 gpa's in pre-med and special education hardly makes them dysfunctional unless that means that they will not/would not/cannot function as a loon, as it were.

But, how appropriate that one of my children can someday psychoanalyze your moribund brain and lack of social relevance. Or, quite possibly, my other son may well have you as a "client" as I can somehow picture you waiting for the school bus with no books, but a lunch pail!

And, please, it's not Wally, but Walter Sobchak, a great American and a great bowler!

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36Tomcat(202 comments)posted 4 years ago

Walter, thank you.....I don't post much on here anymore as every time I look that Nunya person fills up 80% of the posting space. What a jerk. This person is a legend in his/her own mind...LOL

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37najjjj(106 comments)posted 4 years ago

Walter, I must agree with you. If we continue to give Nutya attention, the incessant babbling will only continue. If we collectively ignore the problem, it will seek it's pacifier elsewhere.

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38Stav2k(12 comments)posted 4 years ago

Walter Sobchak is indeed a fantastic American, having fought in Vietnam so you and I can enjoy a cup of coffee! Nunya on the other hand is a rambling mess. I completely skip his comments as I lack an interpreter for his written diarrhea. Someone needs a little training in basic grammar.

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39seminole(476 comments)posted 4 years ago

Hee Hee...beautiful, my friends, beautiful...N is only O in the Valley, an extension of the egotistical superiority premise that prevails in the left. Spew your brilliance but accomplish nothing...

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40najjjj(106 comments)posted 4 years ago

It's an amazing thing, for the most part I don't agree with a lot of the politics expressed on here. One, blithering idiot has gotten us all talking. We should send Nutya to Capitol Hill.........it is an intriguing thought. At the very least it would get him out of his basement and away from his computer, if just for a bit. I'm sure his folks would thank us.

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41candystriper(575 comments)posted 4 years ago

Ohio made another list today...one of the worst states for retirement based on high taxes...beating out California. More bad news Ohio home prices for 2011 will decline 3% in value.

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42Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 4 years ago

Dis aint no big deals fa us cuz we is tryna come up ya heard..

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43dawgalong(86 comments)posted 3 years, 12 months ago

We may be last in education, but we're FIRST in Mulletts per Capita.........

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