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Published: Wed, July 14, 2010 @ 2:46 p.m.
  Brawl at Court Hearing

Brawl at Court Hearing

Brawl at Court Hearing

YOUNGSTOWN

A Youngstown man is being held on $1.25 million bond for charges of murder and attempted murder and remains in the Mahoning County Jail.

He was joined in jail by a relative involved in a post-arraignment melee.

Melvin S. Shaw II, 18, of Idlewood Avenue, was arraigned by video Wednesday morning in Youngstown Municipal Court for the shooting death of Tracee Banks, 17, and attempted murder of Ohio State University football recruit Jamel Turner, 18.

His bond is $500,000 for the attempted murder charge and $750,000 for the murder charge.

Following the arraignment, an altercation broke out between the families of the victim and the suspect outside of the courtroom.

Wade Shaw, 35, of Youngstown, was charged with disorderly conduct, assault and resisting arrest and is currently at Mahoning County Jail. Shaw was outside a Youngstown Municipal courtroom following the video arraignment of Melvin Shaw.

Wade Shaw was swinging wildly and a Youngstown police officer told him to stop twice, according to a police report. When the officer tried to make an arrest, he was pushed away during a melees. The officer then tased Wade Shaw in the torso.

Wade Shaw was taken to St. Elizabeth’s Hospital to have the taser barb removed and then returned to the Youngstown Police Department where he was booked and transported to jail.


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1Lifes2Short(3867 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Shaw and Houser should be roomies. And they can talk about there pitiful young lives they just wasted away.

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2mrblue(924 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

What a pitiful display and disrespect of the courts. Also, look how some were dressed--another display of no respect for the court.

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3redvert(2007 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

blue, do not know what you are referring to as far as dress but my guess is that it is a reflection on the "culture"

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4georgejeanie(731 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

typical

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5mlisi39(46 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The lack of respect for the public toward the police and the police towards the public is disheartening. What can we do when that "contract" has eroded to this level?

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6Valleys_Voice(149 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

lol @ boardmanneedschange,
thats sickening the way you disregard life. don't get me wrong, i think this guy deserved the death penalty, preferable by firing squad. but to charge admission for public hanging and the thought of such a thing is just disheartening. i think the change WE seek is something a little more civil.

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7boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

you would think that, but if it were that way, I would take my kids when they were 15 and I can guarantee that crime would never , ever be something they would think about comitting. To eliminate crime you must eliminate criminals. period.

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8woolyd(579 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Mr Blue the clothing was not disrespectful towards the court it was paying respect to Tracee Banks that why her picture was on it. No problem to wear at a preliminary hearing.

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9leftyompton4life(79 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I wonder what pops in their head..."We are in front on a bunch of police officers...lets fight."

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10Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Tracee Banks on Twitter . . ..

http://twitter.com/BABIITRA

Before this is all over Melvin S. Shaw II will get his charges reduced through plea bargaining . He is young enough to still pursue his career when he gets out .

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11menica(4 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

o i forgot, this is your everday entertainment for the white folks for yall to sit around and downgrade our black community.alot of you are leaving comments that are to racial its sick, but just remember your kids love our music clothes and cars

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12Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

menica :

You are typical and predictable . Don't blame the white folk . Black folk is destroying themselves all on their own .

For entertainment I like to fish and watch the Pawn Stars . I don't care for rap but dine on soul food at times .

I don't care for the way blacks dress . It may be ok for them but not for me . I wouldn't drive a Caddy with huge wheels and like my own wheels just fine .

Enerything in my circle suits me just fine and I don't envy what others have .

YEP, IT'S ALL GOOD !

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13cavs1981(32 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

WHHHOAA MOMMA, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IF THE PICTURE OF THE OFFICER HOLDING THE BLACK MAN BY THE NECK WAS A WHITE OFFICER!!!! THE BLACKS WOULD BE SCREAMING RACISM NOT "I DESERVE IT CAUSE I WAS ACTING LIKE A OUT OF CONTROL IDIOT THUG THAT I AM. NOTHING MORE TO SAY.

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14Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@Stan

How so?

I'm aware of the Twitter conversations and if you read it closely enough. It actually gives insight on Shaw's implying he was angry and going to check something out.

Sadly as we all now know Ms.Banks was murdered in conjunction with Turner being shot multiple times. To include there's direct reference that Shaw had arrived at that location and had a hostile verbal exchange with the deceased.

None of that looks nor sounds good for the defense nor bodes well for proclaiming Shaw's innocence,.. in the least.

Thus if he did it what it damn sure appears he did. What plea is available for felon counts of murder one in association with an attempted murder charge in a dual shooting?

See where I'm not sure of all the evidence that's been gathered by PD. But the way they didn't rush to judgment and apparently astutely put enough loose ends together to conclusively ID Shaw as the assailant.

There would be absolute hell to pay if prosecution tried to soft hand him. Not that I know Shaw, the Banks nor the Turners. However, it's not a personal and or personality thing here.

It's cold, callous deliberate and indefensible murder where multiple shots were fired at close range. Thus there's no way in hell any counsel can hitch defense on the intent on murder wasn't deliberate and seek reduced manslaughter charges,.. no way in Hell.

In fact as things shape up aside from deliberate prosecution even has a picture of it even being premeditated.

Hell, there's been lawless self serving pirates on the sea that's sank ships who's shown more compassion and regards for human life than what was reported at that murderous crime scene.

Damning thing is the adult age and there's not even a chance to request it be tried as a gross juvenile offense either.

To include even if a juvenile did something that horrific he and or she'd be tried as an adult via the nature of the offense,.. and damn well so too.

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15cavs1981(32 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

STAN, BE NICE TO MENICE, WE PAID FOR THOSE CLOTHES, RIMS AND OH YEAH THEIR SYSTEMS AND... BIG SCREEN TVS..!!! ITS YOURS TOO! NOT RACIST, THE TRUTH.. FOR MOST!!!

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16Nunya22(315 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Why must there always be some sort of racial comments? For crying out loud Tracee mother was shoved and so was Tracee grandmother and her father was punched. The courthouse like I been saying was not prepared for this and now people adding onto this drama with a race war between blacks and whites.

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17Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@cavs1981

Whats your point?

See that goes all ways in all cultures not just whites and blacks. Which to immediately cling to such a super silly race or gender inclination without review. Is only what the idiots spreckled throughout all races and or even both genders would do.

However, much to your dismay such wasn't the case here. To include from what was being foiled there. I'm duly impressed with the way the female officer displayed her zero tolerance for allowing the fella to continue.

Whoever she is I commend her and we need more like her on the force. Her manner reminds me of some of the women in our family when we were growing up.

We got bigger than them pretty quick but they damn sure let us know who was laying down law and order when our fathers weren't around.

For which myself and the other male members in the family thank them all the time for putting us in check and having us develop more sense and discipline.

We're all athletes and so size and muscle was on our side. But we also knew even if we'd foolishly thought about hitting Momma, Aunts or lord forbid even looking at Grandma the wrong way.

We could have kissed the damn baby and that would have been our natural born @##'s and from multiple directions too.

When we messed up our friends didn't have to be told to leave they just broke like the wind because they knew their boy was getting ready to get checked up.

Oh and if you thought about passing words with Pops, Unk or Grand dad { a.k.a. Big daddy }. You'd only do it in a dream and regret it in a subconscious called a bad choice of the damn nightmare variety,..

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18Lifes2Short(3867 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

menica

"alot of you are leaving comments that are to racial its sick,"

Humor me and tell me where the racist remarks are? Why are you a racist? Why do you have to bring in the race card? What reason is there for it pertaining to this article/incident? Weren't the victims/accusers and cops black? Can't wait to see your reply.

"but just remember your kids love our music clothes and cars"

I know my kids don't, actually they love Christian music, and I know alot of my kids friends don't like it. They think it's useless and a waste. And as far your quote, isn't that racially profiling?

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19menica(4 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@cavs ya yall paid for it. buy giving ur kids money to buy drugs and being so junkied out that we get the stuf dam near for free b/c you and your kids "CAVS" is so fiened out.my car home tv nor sterio isnot gov't fundend either.

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20Nunya22(315 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

If I was Tracee family I would delete some of the the social networking websites she is on since some people might try to talk badly on her character when she was alive. I really can't believe how some of the comments on here is getting

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21JJPirko(9 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

This incident shows how the Youngstown Municipal Court facilities are inadequate for security. Lease space in the Mahoning County Courthouse to the Youngstown Municipal Court. This will help the County to pay for its existing Sheriff's Deputy security team, without duplicating the taxpayers' cost of paying for two Courthouses and two security teams. To make this space available in the Mahoning County Courthouse, move the County Recorder, Auditor, and Treasurer into the existing vacant space at the Oakhill Renaissance Center. With these cost savings, the City of Youngstown may be able to pay its share of the County Jail expenses, so we can keep more dangerous thugs off the streets!

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22avom2007(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I would first off like to say that all the ignorant people on here need to get it together. Tracee is dead and gone from this life now, What happened with her while she was here was her business. It doesn't matter what she said or did bad, she didn't deserve to be murdered, especially by someone who she thought loved her...The way she talked and the things she wrote was her way, What gives people the right to judge her...There is not one person in this world who is perfect, we all fall short of the Glory of God...and everyone was young at one point and time, and I'm sure they did things that they are not proud of, and now that they are older they can be proud they made a change...This is a chance that Tracee will never get since here life was taken. The next time people want to write something ignorant, just think this could have been someone in your family, your mother, sister, friend, cousin, aunt, etc. Not all bad things happen to all bad people, often times bad things happen to good people, and it's just unfortunate situation. As your writing the ignorant things, hope and pray that one day it's not you sitting in a court room, with a T-shirt of your loved one in loving memory and this is the ignorant comments you have to see about them, Remember what goes around is sure to come back around and God sees knows all, hears all, sees all and then some.

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23Nunya22(315 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@censoredship I don't know Tracee personally to know if she was serious or joking, but no matter what she put on any of these social networks it doesn't call for it to be brought up now.

Especially since she can't even defend herself. I just feel atleast out of respect for this girl family and friends especially her mother. She has been through enough hell ever since this murder happened. I'm sure reading about people talking about her daughter like that isn't helping this situation for her.

Overall I just don't see how that is pertaining to her death.

http://www.wytv.com/mostpopular/story...

http://www.wytv.com/content/news/loca...

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24woolyd(579 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

NUNYA it was Menica who made the racial comments. She is also implying that its white peoples fault for black on black crime. She is null and void because she refuses to ask the black community to take responsibility just like some of the leaders of today. What you folks need to do is listen to Bill Cosby, MLK, and Malcolm X who wants the black community to rise through education and helping each other, Cornel West would also be a good starting point not theLil Waynes of the world

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25woolyd(579 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Oh and incidently watch the video because the man in the choke hold was jumped on by the cops and he in fact wasnt doing anything wrong at the time. Also the one cop knew this was a volatile situation and he wasnt calming the situation by threatening to arrest people. He needed to better understand this was an emotional day and an innocent young lady was murdered.

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26FLBJ(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Why is it that every MLK blvd in every state u go to is full of violence, blight, and hate? MLK jr was about non-violence yet they disgrace his name by the way they live their lives. He is rolling over in his grave at the way these people act and the rath of uncivilization. What happened in the courts today is a prime example of a lawlessness people with no respect for authority and no respect for themselves really or the deceased.

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27Lifes2Short(3867 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

avom

You can copy and paste your comment every time someone gets murdered. It's the same comment especially when young adults are getting murdered for no reason whatsoever. Don't you think it's about time it stops? Parents shouldn't have to bury their children. And not just in Youngstown, it's all over this country. It's time people take care of the ones they love instead of when it's to late. It's time to face facts now and not sugar coat it. People need to realize this is only getting worse. They need to learn from this and they don't. Next week it'll be someone else and the same comments you posted and that is a shame.

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28FLBJ(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

They are a product of their environment which includes: waking up in late afternoon hours due to the lack of employment, go to the corner store to grab a bag of flamin hot cheetos and a Top Pop and a grape flavored blunt so they can go smoke it up, then play video games, drive with no license committing drive-bys in a cadi escalade that they paid for with dope money and get some girl pregnant and then abandon her then go to prison or end up dead. Wow so predictable! Why Ddon't u surprise YOURSELVES by getting an education wake up go to work come home to your wife and kids and make something of yourself....

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29Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@censoredship

Hold up there,..

Where I'm not Ny22 whom you challenged, but for corrective clarity here lets get you taught a few things here.

See first off we're talking about whom was a very young 17 year old. That was doing and saying nothing that gives inference nor credence to your self coined " ghetto'riffic " culture phantasm.

Where personally I don't speak in such a manner of citing people by racial distinction in effigy.

But there are those whom do and they're not all young nor are they all black or even exclusive to Americans either.

See just like those of intelligence knows that dumb Hick's and tasteless Tramps comes in all races and both genders. There's also no race nor gender that has a lock on neither snide nor blatant stupidity either

NOW HOW ABOUT A TINFOIL HAT TO GO WITH THAT DECODER RING:

So via that barometer one would conclude that whites calling other whites such disparaging terms such as " white Trash " and or " Crackers ". Just like Rush Limbaugh just called the deceased George Steinbrenner,..

Check that subculture,.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mCemh...

See that's no isolated incident because other whites routinely cite fellow whites whom they disagree with as " Crackers " and Rednecks here and everywhere else.. .your decoder ring fail?

So Presto Change-O just like that they're all " Hoodniks " and subculture orchestrators, contributors and practitioners,.. See there?

FROM THERE AND BEYOND::

See your super slanted " Ghetto'riffic ' assertion hits an even more superlative snag when you even go further.

Like having heard Italians calling one another " Whops " in color chiding and or in heated disagreements.

Or how an array of Latino's get angry when a Puerto Rican is cited as a Mexican and citing one another as SA's, Beaners and wetbacks ",..

Or how about how Asians take extreme exception when Chinese, Japanese,. Korean and Filipino decent are mistaken,.. heard the names they call one another?

Or how about how the Brits cite one another as " Bloomin Blokes " and " Bloody Birds " when speaking jovially or disparaging,.. it's effigy.

So see not to chronologically go all into cite the like idiosyncrasies in effigy of Jews, Africans, Saudi's, Iranians, Palestinians, Egyptians and Syrians. Where the terms of Turks and an assortment of others are hurled between them,.. bet you've inaccurately called them A-rabb's before too didn't you there Hoodnik.

So see I think it's quiet clear here it's not just Ms. Banks adaption in verbal effigy laced lingo as you alleged,.. not even close.

It's a manner of global expressions and a great number of the global populous would fall under your " Ghetto'riffic " canopy.

So clearly YOU need to try peering through a kaleidoscope instead of fooling yourself via such tunnel vision next time..

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30Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

PART II

ONWARD AND TO INCLUDE AND CONCLUDE:

See it's expressions that's era induced, regionally diverse, created and influence. To which tone inflection fluctuation of affectation delivery can mean it's affectionate or acidic.

So by global standards and precedence there's NOTHING outlandish about young Ms. Banks expressions as she was maturing through her youth.

Now had she still remained reveling in such " youth speak " in her older years throughout the maturation process THEN it'd been a but different.

Where not to get personal however coming up I've had girlfriends refer to me as an assortment of affectionate names that describes togetherness.

Which I detect maybe and or apparently such affections weren't bestowed upon you via the exception you took with discovering it,.. not her fault..

I could go on here to lift that veil of falsely proclaiming she's the poster child of any subculture,.. NO WAY !!!

Or is this where beyond insinuation you're going to more fabrication and misrepresentation. Where you make up some super secret criminal record that she was supposed to have formed,.. Poster child?

So see I think my points been thoroughly made here and it wasn't based upon assumption, stewed in opinion nor marinated in innuendo either.

Where in a right and wrong distinction here I think it's exceptionally safe to say boy were you ever wrong as all hell in what you'd tried to allege,.. ya think?

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31FLBJ(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I am with u censoredship...

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32Lifes2Short(3867 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

"FROM THERE AND BEYOND::

See your super slanted " Ghetto'riffic ' assertion hits an even more superlative snag when you even go further.

Like having heard Italians calling one another " Whops " in color chiding and or in heated disagreements............. "

But you see nunya, you can say that on here about all the nationalities and there slangs and no one would consider nothing by it but what happens if you say the "N" word? Your considered a racist and abused to no end. Thats the difference.

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33Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@Nunya22

We differ,..

If I were advising the Banks family I'd emphatically say no in regards to my opinion on pondering any deleting any of the daughters social networking entries. Mind you I say that for a host of reasons however I'll leave it as that here.

Delete it by others Talk?

Nonsense, see not only is there nothing to be ashamed of with their young family members expressions and photo.

See you can't live your life, nor preserve your memories trying to appease people. See where we're to be civil and cordial but we don't bow down to people.

See people come in such an array and variety that some speak insensibly about Jesus Christ, Allah, Buddah, Mother Mary and every other spiritual sanctity you'll ever place before them.

So what makes you think making decisions in effort to please, appease and or run from some insignificant other[s]?

See where not to align with the deceitful or despicable to become akin to their disgrace. There comes a point in life when you have to accept a conviction of to hell with vile, vengeful, vindictive and insensible people

To not waste time on trying nor caring about playing into bearing any concern with a fool. So let them think what the heaven or hell they want to think and their agnostic thoughts, acidic assumptions and woe be to themselves words are insignificant.

See their family member can no longer be scathed nor even reach by any dogma of mankind anymore. Where in mortality just hold steadfast to what matters and don't expect others to feel how you feel.

Because they don't know what you know and they'll never be as close to what and whom you embrace no matter who they are.

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34YTownBred(30 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

There is no doubt that the family of the slain is hurting and should feel a huge amount of anomousity towards the suspect. However, there is a time and a place for expressing it in that type of manner. The court room is not one of them. This indeed will continue to spill into the streets, but those folks should be ashamed of themselves the way they carried on in a Federal Courtroom!

They have only re-inforced the stereo type that all races have towards the black community (as clearly can be seen by reading all of these comments).
Sad Day.

And yes, I am Black, and I LOVE my people. But this is not a good look.

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35Nunya22(315 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@woolyd there was black and white racial comments coming from more than one person.

@Lifes2Short I agree with you on post number 37. A change needs to happen it's sad seeing such young people get killed over nothing. And I also agree with post number 43

@Nunya I see what you are saying. Well other than deleting it maybe they should make it private so only friends and family can view.

@censorship as for going to mahoning county jail listings some of the people locked up are some low lives. And then there are some who are locked up for protecting their home/other things but get a title of some sort of reckless behavior. A real big habbit on the vindy forums is some people love to jump to that website to post a past record when it might not even pertain to what is going on now. For example the Jamel Turner past was brought up when he was a victim along withTracee Banks. I bet even when someone doesn't have a bad rap sheet in the past some people on here may have jumped to that website and more searching for something just to downtalk them with whatever happened currently.

But overall on what you said I actually agreed with some of the things you stated.

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36Nunya22(315 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I posted this in another headline and im a paste it here to.

Overall a big problem in this community is racism between blacks and whites, drugs, child molestors, male abuse on women, denial of any racism/prejudice due to ignorance, killing, robbing, stalking, crimes not being reported because of lack of protection, crookedness with some police officers, black on black crime, some teachers not doing there job caring for their students, some parents not doing their job with parenting their children, some group homes not caring for the children, females fighting over lying cheating men on the net and in person, crookedness with how money is spent to fix the community, bad response timing of the police to some neighborhoods, abondon houses, people judging people who use welfare, people abusing welfare, and people bad talking the police as a whole. I could keep going on and on alot of these things other communities are dealing with these issues as well but I will just speak on this community.

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37jowil(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

It is terrible but true a lot of things being said here. As a culture we need to wake up and see what's really going on. We've forgotten how and why others before us fought for us to have the things that we have now. Censoredship When I read your post I cried because it is so true what you said. I am a single mother that was born into a bad situation. My mother was abused by her mother and father, she grew up in foster care, my father was her foster father. She was in and out of prison for most of her life on drugs. She had 6 children, all by different men. None of us know our fathers. We all were in foster care. Some of us abused by the foster parents some by our own family. So I grew up met a loser married him. Divorced him. Trying to put the pieces of my life together. Struggling to take care of my son ALONE. I do want you to understand that there a a few of us that want better for ourselves and are doing better for ourselves. And about the child support issue. I struggle to care for my son. I have a support order for my ex husband to pay child support. I don't enforce it because it is not worth it. I don't want my ex within two feet of my son. I don't want my son having that kind of example and repeat what you read above. It's hard right now but in time it will get better.

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38Blessed1(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

This is Nothing but 2 families HURTING!....Many of the comments on here are very cruel...Majority of the ppl leaving them have never lost some1 to such a violent crime ...And my prayers go out to the Families....Nomatter how you raise ur children...thier going to do what they want ,and be who they wanna Be....This isn't a White or Black issue..Nor Ignorance!...Stop ......Think If Some1 took the Life of ur child, couldn't no man,woman,Police Officer, Judge, Jury, or No1 Else stop ur feelings only time and the Lord can Calm those feelings down...As for the courthouses we have here in the Yo...Who Cares if they fix them up..or burn them down,,,,Our Goals should be to keep our families out of them!!!!! Help betta our communities that way!.......Be Blessed, and stay That way!

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39pnut(8 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Unfortunately, this really is a black issue. The crime statistics speak volumes for 80+ years of who exactly commits the majority of all crimes in the entire United States while being a mere < 5% of the population - young black males.

If I have to walk past a group of guys on the street, the only group that makes me the least bit concerned is a group of blacks. The truth is the truth, we are our own worst problem. It's not Whites, Hispanics, Asians, etc. It's US that's killing each other, robbing each other, assaulting each other, beating and abusing black women and children. I live in a pretty nice neighborhood, at Midnight I was walking my dog, just a little while ago. There's mostly white people but some blacks too around here. At midnight my black neighbor had a bunch of guys outside his house, smoking,drinking,cursing, and with a car stereo booming, no doubt bothering people half way down the block. I NEVER,EVER see any of the other neighbors acting selfish and stupid like that,ever. Only the ones that look like me. No wonder they lump us all together as trash. The truth is that way too many of us act like that and ARE trash. I was wondering why Europe doesn't have the crime problems and overflowing jails like we do in the U.S., well, what do we have that Europe doesn't ? Millions of blacks. It's not our skin color, it's not our genes, it's our BEHAVIOR, the example we teach our kids by who we are and how we live our lives. I seriously wonder if there is hope for us or if we'll always act like we're second class. Google the Moynihan Report, read it, you'll see why we're going backwards instead of forwards. We've gone BACKWARDS since we got our rights, and many of us seem proud of that, or want to blame anyone but ourselves for our own behavior. I'm so tired of being embarrassed of my own people.

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40woolyd(579 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

NUNYA at the time when i posted it was just Menica. And you see she hasnt blogged back yet. Could this be because she knows she was wrong.

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41Nunya22(315 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Yeah that person was wrong@woolyd because i didn't even notice anything getting racial until that person posted. Then it just got bad with black and white racial statements.

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42L0L(608 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I agree republicanrick, its not all blacks just like its not all whites. Its the lower rung of every race that give the rest a bad name. However, the lower rung of the black community is winning the race in being the biggest, loudest, laziest government leaches but they are keeping a lot of police officers employed so cant complain too much

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43tngstwnlett(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

YOU know i understand the legal system very well. Its not a matter of culture or respect for the court.Sometimes its a matter of principal.Have you ever went into judge kolbys court and listen how she talk to people. For my taste its very unappropiate.You have to give respect to get it. I must say the black community is getting tired of being dogged by racial justice

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44starofesther(168 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Ten Commandments Are Broken...and Be Courteous….That you may Inherit A Blessing.” (1st Peter 3:9)
Respect...Life and One another..

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45Blessed1(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@Censoredship....Here's a few stitistics for ya, 1.) i don't have too do any background on any of the families..... I know them ALL.....2.) Yeah it is very hard too get out of the hood howevea, i'm still here doing Very well,( Thank You Jesus)! The bottom Line is Life is what you Make it ....I am not racist...., I Love ALL ppl including you!, But the world is full of tradgedy, No matter what your color is. This type of crime, happens too every1, you have young(white ) children that kill their parents, and walk into schools and open fire on innocent people...some of them come from backgrounds that I would never ever want to be brung up in...(Rich , Fabulous, and pretty well off) Only because, I would never appreciate ANYTHING in life ..as like them.....Blacks have struggled for pretty much all thier lives yeah you get alot of violence in what you may call the GHETTO, But, What you make of your life and teach too your children, is another story!...I Never 4 get where i came from,..... DA' HOOD!....Having said ALL that,,,,, the alledged accused guy's family hurts because, NoOne is going to stand back and take another family threatining the life of a loved one...saying stuff like "I HOPE HE GET THE DEATH PENALTY".."HE DESERVES TO DIE"....You must have very little, if any, love in your heart...for your own family!!!any person with compasion, can understand that....I won't go into a battle with you on here, but as a christian woman....I Sit amungst you too say that, I am human, and if some1 hurt my family.....I would be so full of pain, hurt, and RAGE that only LORD knows what I'd do!!!
I'll Be pray ing for you Sir, GOD Bless You

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46Blessed1(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

For the record....God Giveth life ....and only He should take it Away! We as ppl are so Quick to judge the color of 1's skin ....I don't care what color you are....When i pray My eyezzz are closed anyway! I LOVE YOU ALL... Be Blessed and stay that way!

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47Nunya(1356 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

@ woolyd

I'd believe so,..

But see it's all about educating and enlightening and Menica, just benefited from gaining a whole new perspective and understanding.

Wrong initially but not damned for taking heed. To having been exposed to more depth. Thus having learned better via such open dialogue, broadening her horizon and having her outlook and previous perspective so greatly impacted.

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