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We must all stand against this violence



Published: Wed, January 27, 2010 @ 12:01 a.m.

Police said even people who usually won’t cooperate with police are expressing disdain for the killing.

By ELISE FRANCO

and JOHN W. GOODWIN JR.

Vindicator staff writers

  St. Dominic's Shooting

Crime Stoppers offer a $10,000 reward

Crime Stoppers offer a $10,000 reward

YOUNGSTOWN — Those who live near St. Dominic Church on the city’s South Side said senseless crime won’t drive them away from their homes.

Less than one week after the Saturday morning shooting death of 80-year-old Angeline Fimognari in the parking lot of St. Dom’s, 77 E. Lucius Ave., longtime residents are speaking out.

Maggy Lorenzi, 58, of Midlothian Boulevard, said she’s heartbroken over the crime and over what’s happened to the neighborhood she’s lived in for 50 years.

“Every murder, every violent death in this city is a tragedy,” she said. “But when it’s an innocent, whether it’s a child in a drive-by or this sweet little lady, then it’s multiplied.”

Lorenzi, who was involved with the now-defunct Southern Block Watch group, said the quality of the neighborhood began to decline about 15 years ago when St. Dominic School closed.

“That was the anchor for the neighborhood,” she said. “After it closed, the people who were homeowners down in that area started selling properties and they became all rentals. It was a slow downward spiral after that.”

Brenda Maddox, who moved to the South Side 21 years ago, said she just purchased a home near the old school. Maddox said after Fimognari’s murder she doesn’t even feel safe living near a church.

“I’m petrified now, and I’ve been going to [St. Dom’s] forever,” she said. “It has gotten terrible.”

Maddox said when she moved to the area all the neighbors knew and looked out for each other and the neighborhood children never caused any problems.

“This was a good place to live, and I didn’t have to be afraid to go outside,” she said. “Now I am, especially when I am hearing shots going on outside.”

One resident, who declined to give her name for safety reasons, said she’s seen significant changes in the more than 30 years she’s lived in Youngstown.

The Avondale Avenue resident said when her children were growing up they were safe camping out in the front yard and riding their bikes after dark.

“We weren’t afraid to talk to people on the street and walk our dogs at night,” she said.

The 57-year-old said she’s angry that has been taken away because of violent crime and gang members.

“That’s what makes me mad,” she said. “You have to be afraid of kids.”

Another resident who declined to give her name for safety reasons said she has lived on the South Side since birth and can't compare the neighborhood today to what it used to be.

"There's absolutely no comparison," the 76-year-old said. "It's like day and night."

She said she's more cautious now than she used to be, but she won't be forced from her home.

"I'm not afraid," she said. "I used prudence in everything I do though. I have to be extra careful now."

Despite the violence, Lorenzi said she has no plans to move.

“I’m cautious, but nobody’s going to make me scared,” she said.

Lorenzi said in order to take back the neighborhood and city, residents, public officials and law enforcement have to step up and take responsibility.

“The area has become such that the people living here just don’t care,” she said. “And until the quality and strength of our police department and the children in this city become the top priority Youngstown will never move forward.”

One way police are hoping to draw in help from the community is by offering a reward of up to $10,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person responsible for Fimognari’s death. Mayor Jay Williams said the money will come from public and private donations.

Police reports included a general description from a concerned citizen in the area at the time of the shooting. The supplementary report describes a black male just more than 6 feet tall, wearing blue jeans and a dark jacket, walking away from the church at the time of the incident.

The concerned citizen said the man did not appear menacing, but he wanted to make police aware of the man’s presence.

Capt. Rod Foley, chief of the detectives division, said similar tips have been coming in from any- and everyone who thinks they can assist in the investigation. He said police are grateful for each of those tips.

“We are getting help from the community. They have given us more calls and some names that we are comparing to our records. They are giving us anything they think can help. We are not highly suspicious of those people but they are people of interest we can talk to,” Foley added.

Even people of interest questioned by police are expressing a certain disdain for the actions of the individual who shot Fimognari, the captain said.

He said the department has spoken with individuals not likely to work with law enforcement and they too have said they want to see the person caught and are standing behind police in that effort.

efranco@vindy.com

jgoodwin@vindy.com


Comments

11970mach1(1005 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

I understand people wanting to make their stand, and not wanting to be run out, but if you live around there and can get out, do it now while you still can.

I love eating at the Boulevard Tavern, but I am done going there. Not going to risk my life over dinner. Makes me angry, but better unhappy then dead.

Taxing rentals in hopes of making neighborhood better is unrealistic. If those houses were not rentals, they'd be vacant and probably crack houses.

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2Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

These people said what our officials should have said. The people and OTHERS are more outraged then the "OH WELL" attitude of the people in office are. Get some "guts" leaders of our city.

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3Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

penguinbird
Typical mindset from you. So it's ok a crack head murdered a elderly lady over chump change. Your not surprised? Well that just shows what kind of person you are, the "OH WELL, SH@3 HAPPENS, and it's fine and dandy with you. What if that was someone who you loved or loved? Why is everyone outraged? I can go on and on, but I'll keep it short, because the INNOCENT victims are the ones that suffer, you, me, and the elderly, the children, and everyone that works for a living and tries to make there life better and a future for the children. And like your attitude and our people in office, you just say OH WELL....Maybe you life has no meaning, but the people I care for and love mean a he@# of alot to me and I want them to be safe.

As far as your war on drugs and legalizing it and such, it has its pros and cons on both fronts, but you know that won't happen or maybe down the road it will. Do something productive if you feel that strong about it.

And on your hanging the guy without a trail, sure he'll have a trail, he'll get sentenced and he'll sit on death row for 15-20 years and people like you will feel bad for him and say he shouldn't get the death penalty and cry for him. Did the family of Angeline Fimognari have a chance to say goodbye to her family and friends?

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4UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

The DemoCROOKS just don't get it. People are tired of the Welfare & Medicaid & Section 8 Housing attitude in Y-town's can't change business as usual that permiates the black hoodlum stink around Youngstown.

Why can't Mayor Jay ask for help from the state to take on the hoodlums? Bring in the Highway Patrol since his YPD can't do the job.

It's so sad - this Lady did not have to die.

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5BusDriver(46 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Its tragic and hopefully someone in that neighborhood will have the courage to come forward and it is time they all get angry and get involved because next time it could be one them or their family members. Just like what happened to the Kaluza family on the Southside which the perps were caught thank god but now that man has to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair while his attackers get to walk, have three meals a day that is justice? The bottom line is laws have to change, laws that will make these punks think twice about killing or maiming another human being. Rest in Peace Angeline.

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6Attis(873 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

These residents of this failed (not failing) neighborhood at least sound determined to stop and reverse the urban decay infesting all of Youngstown. They are lightyears ahead of the so-called leaders who do not give a dam about the death of the city. Where is YSU in all this? Why not finally launch an intensive and extensive program that focuses on the causes of this vast urban decay, proposes solutions and implements them? Or is YSU, like City Hall, divorced from the hellish reality of Youngstown neighborhoods?

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7DirtForce_1(40 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Hey Union--why do you turn every post or comment you give into a political battle against the Dems---this isn't about Dems or Republicans--people get robbed and killed under the Republican watch too. However, you are correct that the section 8/welfare scum are the cause..period. Take a look at this photo first and then read the article--

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid...

http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/jan/26...

these guys that are putting on a benefit for Haiti tonight in Youngstown tonight---this is what Youngstown is all about!! Would any of you reading this go to this "benefit" and feel safe. Come on people!!!! Get rid of the ghetto and you get rid of the problem--plain and simple.

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8gdog4766(1466 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Whats really bad about this whole incident is that right now there are people with first hand knowledge of the crime and who did it and will never come forward. I mean its just some old white lady. The only way they will solve this murder is when they bust someone for a crime unrelated to this and they give this feces with legs up to save themselves or the reward gets large enough. The biggest misconception that liberal whites have is that minorities love white people. I mean look how bad it is when a minority walks down 224, they cant get a block without gettin robbed by some old white lady. Wake up, open your eyes, pull your heads out of the sand.

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9city_resident(510 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Those are good suggestions paulb, and the city can actually do the first three. In fact, I've been hearing about landlord registration for years, but it can't seem to get started.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the city has the authority to do any of the other things you've mentioned.

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10Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

The Southside decay is several generations in the making . Yes folks, this was all funded by your tax dollars . To end the decay you must have new growth in the area . A factory producing goods for export is a viable option . Just shelling out money to buy drugs and booze keeps the status quo . Plenty of low tech jobs are needed for this area before the city is totally destroyed by the costs involved .

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11walter_sobchak(1891 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

USA1 is sadly correct. If the aftermath of Katrina taught us anything, it's that the govt cannot protect you. The police are mainly reactionary, it's not their fault. Thus, it's up to you to protect yourself. The second amendment is our original homeland security. The thugs and gangbangers must realize they are entering a world of pain.

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12Mooneygrad72(42 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

I feel that many of you posting on this insenible murder, just want to bash the city and it's safety forces. The police can only do so much-- Why not use this blog as a place to remember the individual who was shot down and the feelings of her family members. Many of you posting DO NOT know the family and have no IDEA what a huge impact her death will create to her physical family as well as her spiritual family at St. Dom's. Stop the policital crap and the city bashing. She was in the right place at the wrrong time. As Bishop Murrary stated-- God gives us another family after out worldy life ends. Rest in peace Angeline. To her nephews and neices, with whom I went to school, Know that Aunt Aggie is in a better place and some day son, you have be reunited with her and with our God. Padre Pia have mercy on the crinimal's soul.

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13walter_sobchak(1891 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Mooneygrad72? Padre PIO, (St. Pio of Pietrelcina, stagmatist; check out the National Shrine in Barto, Pa), please get it correct, is a saint. We ask saints to pray for us since they are close to God. Mercy comes from God, not saints. Remember, God always forgives, man sometimes forgives, nature never forgives. And I am not obligated to forgive until someone who sins asks for it. I could never forgive the 9/11 bombers and they would never ask for it.

Now, to Y-town. Its not political crap or city bashing. It's calling it like it is! The current state of Youngstown is the result of the'60s coming home to roost. No guardrails! No accountability! Give people something without earning it, they abuse it and take it for granted. This is what the liberal agenda in this country has given us! My family also felt the sting of the lawless POS that live in Youngstown. My mother was brutally beaten once, had her purse taken twice, her house burglarized, and a car stolen. But she stuck it out on the south side her whole life.

So, my suggestion to the good people of the city, arm yourself! Listen to Mayor " Mars-attacks!" and Police Chief Jimmy(Dynomite) Hughes and realize that only you can protect yourself. The cops on the street are outmanned.

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14Ytownboy(142 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

The current state of Youngstown is due to several factors: The deindustrialization of the area; Endemic corruption, much of which was linked to organized crime; the pursuit of poorly thought out economic revitalization programs; and incompetent representation in congress.

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15Cassie(88 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

I no longer live in Mahoning County, but keep up with the news. I can do nothing but grieve for the area--schools in the basement in the state, no safe place for children and the elderly, a whole generation of young black men decimated by drugs, crime, gangs and murder and no one seems to be able to do anything to stop it. I am sure there must be some good news, but the bad news is absolutely horrific. We need someone like Joe Clark in the schools, parents who care enough to let someone like him do what needs to be done, maybe even the Guardian Angels--are they still around? The political leaders seem to be well intentioned, but ineffective. Just a devastating sight.

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