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Youngstown police probe fatal shooting on Lora Avenue



Published: Sat, January 2, 2010 @ 10:20 p.m.

YOUNGSTOWN — Police confirmed a fatal shooting at a home on Lora Avenue on Saturday night.

Officers called crime scene investigators and the Mahoning County Coroner’s office to 232 Lora Ave. at about 9:45 p.m.

A witness told police that two people went into the house, and one did not come out — and that two muzzle flashes were seen, according to police scanner reports.

Police did not have any information on whether the victim was male or female, saying that information was just starting to be gathered.


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1north_side_girl(213 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

this is going on next door to my house right now. eight cops, k9 unit, two ambulances.

please people, vote for your police and fire funding. you'll be grateful when your next door neighbor gets murdered.

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2borylie(779 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Hey girl, don't let these some of these idiots on these boards know where you live. Just trying to be helpful.

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3gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

northside girl,
Honey, I agree with borylie: please do not leave yourself wide-open.
Hope you are taking precautions to protect yourself.

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4UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Nothing ever gets better in Y-town. More of the same!!!

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5ladderman22(2 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

things will never get better until we take responsibilty for our kids.they can make things change.this is not just a youngstown problem.you can add a army of police but with no jobs and parents who let thier kids grow up on the streets with the rest of the animals ,drugs ,and killing is all they know.

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6Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Really getting tired of it happens only in Youngstown.....that is getting so old!

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/b...

http://laist.com/2010/01/02/lapd_repo...

http://www.wafb.com/global/story.asp?...

http://www.newhavenindependent.org/ar...

AND ON AND ON AND ON......

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7Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Lifes2Short:

"Really getting tired of it happens only in Youngstown.....that is getting so old!"

I am tired of murders and robberies being out of control in Youngstown . How many of these murders are committed by crimionals who should still be locked up for other crimes but were released early or didn't get prison time ? And it goes on and on !

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8Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

My point exactly, and it's not just in Youngstown, like I said numerous times, they should be tough on the first sentence, real tough, especially with the younger kids. I've been through it, I'm a living example of the court systems, and paid the price for it, after four chances given me. But this is a ongoing problem all over the United States, being to lenient on the first offense, second, etc....
Read the news everyday from all around the country and you'll see that this is a major problem, not just in the Valley. I'm tired of the murders and robberies also, but you can't just pinpoint Youngstown, were nothing but a grain of sand on a beach in this world. As long as you have plea bargains and lawyers your going to get away easy. It's not fair and something has to be done, and until that happens your going to have this. It's sad, but it's what it is and until the innocent start taking matters into there hands, this won't end.

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9Georgia_on_my_Mind(1 comment)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

I've moved to Youngstown from an big city and to me it's an boring and slow place. You people making it seem like it's the most dangerous place in the world.

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10Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Take a walk down Lora to Ohio and then Elm Street. You may even find Freddy Krueger. Things will speed up for you and no longer be boring . Introduce yourself as being from a big city . The boys will be impressed to the point of sharing your cash , credit cards and car keys .

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11north_side_girl(213 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

people, ive found that while youngstown is violent, that the violence is most often targeted. ive never been robbed or even bothered by anyone, but the people who do get robbed are often victims because they were up to do good themselves. we'll see what the situation was here. but there's surely no freddy krueger lurking around taking out innocent bystanders.

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12northlimadawg(7 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

This was from Sunday before noon. Sounded pretty hairy on the scanner.

Gunman Dead in Shootout With Youngstown Police

Last Update: 4:24 pm

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A violent scene on Youngstown's East Side early Sunday afternoon left one man dead.

Initial reports are that an unidentified man became violent in an apartment complex at 1093 East Way. He allegedly began shooting up the area while searching for an unidentified woman.

When he couldn't find the woman, he went outside brandishing the gun and threatened a pedestrian walking down the street.

Youngstown police responded to the 911 call and confronted the shooter. The man allegedly shot at the officer who then took cover.

Police said the gunman then got into a white SUV and attempted to ram the police officer. The officer shot and killed the suspect.

Our crew at the scene reports the gunman is slumped over behind the wheel of the SUV.

Check back, or tune into newscasts throughout the day for more on this developing story.

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13SJustice(3 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Northside girl....innocent bystanders are most certainly being taken out. Even though some of the violence is targeted, the bullets surely are not. Tell that to the 11 year old little girl shot the other day or to the innocent others in Y town that have been caught in the cross fire. Hang out long enough and I'm sure you will be witness to something.

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14Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

north_side_girl :

" but there's surely no freddy krueger lurking around taking out innocent bystanders."

I can assure you that there are several Freddy Kruegers on Elm Street . These fellows will take and do whatever they want .

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15north_side_girl(213 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

yeah, take from people they know carry around drugs and wads of cash. if you have half a brain and mind your own business you can help avoid these situations. the college-age kids who inhabit the north side sometimes run around advertising 'i have tons of nice crap, rob me,' putting themselves in danger. people who dont ask to be put in danger, like kids whose older brothers are dealing drugs out of their house, are innocent, but the situation is not random. it's inevitable.

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16Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

North side,
I know what your saying. I understand. The majority are being targeted. From the drug wars to the territorial rights, the shootings or robberies are always connected in a way. And your right. The incident about the man shooting at police, there is nothing you can do about situations like that, there everywhere, man was probably high on drugs or something, there is nothing no one can do about that incident,that is going to happen here and elsewhere, only choice is to kill the idiot which the YPD did and one less monster off the streets.

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17Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Well north_side_girl you are not very street smart . I suggest that you develop an extra degree of caution .

Bennie Adams was from Ohio Avenue . I'm sure you know where it is . It takes a while to take the Freddy Kruegers off the streets .

http://www.starbeacon.com/local/local...

http://www.deathrow-usa.com/BennieAda...
Bennie Adams #560-125

Ohio Death row

February 2009
I'd like for my information to state following: I'm Bennie Adams, an inmate who is presently on Ohio's death row. I'm 52 years old, and I'm a single male.

I love life and enjoy discussing many aspects about it. I'm looking for individuals to write who may possibly become a friend to me. I believe there's many things we may have in common, but must write each other to unterstand what they are. Therfore send some of your thoughts and information about yourself to me a this address:

Bennie Adams #560-125
O.S.P. 878 CoitsvilleHubbard Rd.
Youngstown, OH 44505

I hope to hear from you soon to learn some things about you and your interests in life.

Take care
Sincerely
Bennie II !

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18howardinyoungstown(591 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

paulb if you look closely at the list you have linked you will find that Richmond CA #7 and Oakland CA #15 are shown I moved here to Youngstown from Berkeley CA which is located in between those two citied (they are only 7miles apart). My point is that even in the SF bay area with all of its jobs and wealth (the list is from 2006) and hugely expensive housing (in 2006 Richmond avg. $560,000 and Oakland avg. $820,000) that bad things happen.

BTW based on the 2008 numbers Berkeley (avg house $1,200,000) would be about #17 on that list.

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19Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Those stats are meaningless as are all stats. Even the Census ones. People lie on those and give wrong information. The list you provided is from citydata that collects data from there "Forum members". Who is to say they live in the area or are truthful in there surveys. I always felt the Top 10 cites to live in, Top 10 beach spots, etc...are a waste of time and resources, because you can be #1 on a list and another nowhere to be found, it's all up to who pays for the advertising.

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20howardinyoungstown(591 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

paulb your knowledge of a stat listing site is impressive, however some of those stats you are quoting are not a negative reflection on Youngstown at all.

#7 on the list of "Top 100 cities with lowest ratio of median house value to median household income (pop. 50,000+)" This means that Youngstown is capable of having a much higher percentage of homeowners to renters; this is a very positive trait.

#36 on the list of "Top 100 cities with oldest houses (pop. 50,000+) I find older homes have much more character and potentially history as do a lot of people; I certainly would not want to live in some post war cookie cutter subdivision or a Post Reagan McMansion.

#62 on the list of "Top 100 cities with old houses but young residents (pop. 50,000+) Having young resisdents with older housing makes Youngstown sound a lot like Berkeley; we could be doing a lot worse.

#93 on the list of "Top 100 most racially diverse cities (pop. 50,000+) How exactly is this a negative? All of the most desirable big cities are much more diverse than Youngstown. This is something we should be actively working to increase as diversity makes a city stronger.

#53 on the list of "Top 101 counties with highest percentage of residents voting for Kerry (Democrat) in the 2004 Presidential Election, pop. 50,000+ Now you are simply showing how fearful conservatives are. This has no bearing whatsoever on livability or economy since the SF Bay Area is higher up on this category and has much higher livability and a much higher standard of living do to its robust economy.

As for most of the others you cite I agree they do not represent Youngstown well and we need to be actively working to change those; by strengthening our community not by ridiculing it.

When was the last time you proposed a positive change for Youngstown or volunteered with an organization to make Youngstown better?

If you don't live in Youngstown then by all means stay out we don't need your negative attitude here.

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21Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

The problems of Youngstown lie within those who live here . The weed starts with the seed . The nucleus of the criminal mind was home grown . When criminal behavior gets the attention of the criminal justice system finger pointing starts . Suddenly society is blamed for destroying this persons life . Up until the time of arrest life in the subculture was flourishing . So yes a life was destroyed by society . This same life however was destroying society .

Idle time breeds crime . This sums up the problems of Youngstown . The street thugs need to be to be given employment and have their mindsets reprogrammed . Bad behavior isn't cool and should be rewarded with full term prison sentences . Society is forced and obligated to undo years of upbringing .

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22RobertH(50 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

.... We're just too busy producing, not re-producing.

Glad to hear your not reproducing.

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23PaChick82(1 comment)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

That was my friend Dean!! He was a really good guy and he had his life taken by some jerk over a freaking B***C. Its not over! Not by a long shot. People just dont understand . All these young punks around hear need to stop shooting each other over nothing. Enough is enough. How many of your own kind has to die???

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24TaraMarie305(2 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

THATS F*iN CRAZY MAN! THEY NEED TO CUT THiS MESS OUT .. THERES TO MANY KiDS iN THE WORLD FOR ALL THiS B.S!

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25choc(4 comments)posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Mr. Montgomery was a really nice man that did not deserve to have his life end in this way. Justice will prevail!!!!!! A person can not commit murder and expect to live a normal life from that point on. These animals or should I say demons will have their day. Only God knows how he, she, and or/they will live from that day forward. I am sure he,she, and/or they will have many sleepless nights, nightmares, breakdowns, might even lose their mind because their lives will never be normal again. He,she,and/ or they will suffer in some type of way.

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