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Caterer sues Campbell’s mayor for stop-payment on his check

Published: Wed, February 3, 2010 @ 12:04 a.m.

By Jeanne Starmack

Caterer sues Campbell’s mayor for stop-payment on his check

Boards of health for the city and county say there were no reports of sickened wedding guests.

CANFIELD — A restaurant is suing Campbell’s mayor because he stopped payment on a $10,000 check for catering his wedding reception.

An attorney for Ange Netta’s filed the suit in Mahoning County Court in Canfield on Jan. 28. Named as defendants are George Krinos, his wife, Stephanie Valentino- Krinos, and Krinos’ business, Krinos Financial Group in Boardman. He is a financial adviser there.

Krinos said he stopped payment because 24 of the 350 guests at his wedding reception got sick after eating the food at the reception Aug. 22 at the Stambaugh Auditorium. Two of those people went to area hospitals, he said, where doctors diagnosed food poisoning.

Phyllis Olin, who co-owns Ange Netta’s with her husband, Tony, said the stop-payment has hurt them financially and that Krinos’ assertion that their food sickened his guests is a threat to their reputation.

The Mahoning County District Board of Health and the Youngstown City Health District said there were no reports, either through phone calls from wedding guests or officially from hospitals, that anyone was sick after the reception. Hospitals are required by state law to report cases of food poisoning to the boards of health, said Linda Ewing, assistant director of nursing for the county board of health.

Krinos told The Vindicator this week that he didn’t call the board of health because, “I didn’t know the process.”

Drew Stefan, a registered sanitarian with the county board of health, said doctors and emergency rooms at times will diagnose food poisoning without testing to confirm it’s really a reportable disease because tests are expensive, and the treatment is the same no matter what.

“If no tests were run, you weren’t really diagnosed,” Ewing said.

Board-of-health officials said there would be no way at this point to determine what sickened the wedding guests.

The reception included grape leaves, a cheese table and a cookie table that weren’t provided by Ange Netta’s. Guests could have been sickened by food they ate days earlier, they said.

Alcohol could have been a culprit for guests who were throwing up, Ewing pointed out.

Ange Netta’s’ file at the county board of health revealed no serious violations. Notations on the inspection reports at times praised the restaurant as being clean and well-operated.

“I have been in this business for 30 years,” Olin said. “We know what we’re doing.”

The lawsuit says Krinos entered into a contract of $14,169 for catering services and paid the restaurant $4,000 Aug. 21. He gave the Olins the check for the rest at 5:30 p.m. that same day, the day before the wedding, Olin said. The stop-payment came Aug. 26.

Olin said that after the stop- payment, she had to borrow money and dip into retirement savings to cover their costs.

She said Krinos had called her four days before the wedding and asked her to cut back on the amount of food he’d ordered, but by then, it was too late — the food had arrived. Neither Krinos nor his lawyer, Michael Maillis, would comment.

“We’re a small business,” she said. “Ten thousand dollars is a lot of money for us.”


1NoBS(2072 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Another quality elected official in the Mahoning Valley. *sigh*

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2Lifes2Short(3879 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

"Krinos told The Vindicator this week that he didn’t call the board of health because, “I didn’t know the process.”"

Well wouldn't you try to find out all the legal processes before you do anything.

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3theword(342 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Wonder if he knows the process on how to run a city? By the people he sourrounded himself with I doubt it very much.

Some more great news for the City of Campbell. What a joke!!!

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4theword(342 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

GO to the Mahoning County website and see how many times this jerk has been sued...

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5Hillbillyheartache(20 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

So how does the impeachment process work in that city work?

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6Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

This guy never had the money to pay and probably used this excuse to get out of paying. Like a previous person stated, go to the Mahoning County website at the Public Access section and check how many times he's owed people money.

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7sue(176 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Is someone trying to get a free catering job?

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8theword(342 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

IF the residence of Campbell don't recall this Mayor then there wouldn't be a Campbell!!!

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9joseph123(3 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

He should be brought on crimInal charges. The people who obey the law should be protected by it. He is a con-artist and i am very fearful because he is in a position where he could steal a whole lot of money from Campbell. I say that our local prosecuters should do thier job and bring criminal charges against this man and protect the people who they are suppose to protect. This sickens me. PUT HIM IN JAIL

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10Ken(153 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Let's see now...Krinos said about 24 people out of 350 guests became ill and that's about 7%.(could alcohol, the cheese, etc that was not catered been a factor?)
He holds back $10,000 or about 63% of the bill...he must have flunked math in high school and his financial planning business went in the tank as well.
Great leader for the city!

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

" A restaurant is suing Campbell’s mayor because he stopped payment on a $10,000 check for catering his wedding reception.

An attorney for Ange Netta’s filed the suit in Mahoning County Court in Canfield on Jan. 28. Named as defendants are George Krinos, his wife, Stephanie Valentino- Krinos, and Krinos’ business, Krinos Financial Group in Boardman. He is a financial adviser there."

It looks like George Krinos and the Krinos Financial Group in Boardman can't afford ten grand for catering . Perhaps the good people of Campbell will have a fund raiser for him . Who were the fools who voted for this guy ? I wouldn't invest a nickel with the crooks !

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12PHISHIE(105 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

My advice would be that the Defendant pay the resturant. The mayor and his wife have no evidences to defend against the suit. There is no reason for a counter suit without evidences. His best bet is to sell some of the wedding gifts if necessary and pay the bill. He should also pay the plaintiffs attorney fees..............PHISHIE

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13theword(342 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

The people that voted for Krinos ;

Keep drinking the cool-aid it will be over soon!!!

Then maybe a real Mayor can come in and clean up all the political hacks he hired!!!

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14mrblue(1115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

My advice to Mr. Krinos would be to pay the bill and move on. City council will have a field day with this. City council is at odds with the mayor anyway, and this will add fuel to the fire. It is the belief of many in the city that city council is going to give Mr. Krinos a very hard road to go. Each council member, I am told, has his/her own agenda. They need to remember that they are to do what is best for the city, not themselves or their frends. Our new finance director is permantly attached to the councilwoman and I don't think he has any knowledge of how to do a budget. The city is in real trouble if things don't change, AND I MEAN SOON.

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15mrblue(1115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

At election time, Mr. Krinos seemed like the better of the two candidates. He had vision and a strong feeling that he could help this city.. City council must remember that Mr. Dill is no longer mayor and it is time to move forward and forget the past 10 years.

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16Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Why are you sticking up for him and bringing up city council? This has nothing to do with him being mayor. It has to do with the fact that a reputable company catered his wedding and then got stiffed because he either didn't have the money to pay for it or didn't want to pay for it. As mayor he should be setting a good example and try to avoid this type of thing. For that matter, how does this make him look as a financial advisor?

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17cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago


I will confess that I am a close friend of the Mayors and my opinions might be biased but this is the truth of what happend at the wedding.

I will refer to the Mayor as George.

Make of this explaination what you will but it is 100% fact, the Vindicator did not put any statements or quotes in the story. Such as George saying "If the court decides I have to pay then I will, I am not concerned about the outcome" or any of the facts listed below which George made availible to the Vindicator staff writer who has always mis quoted the Mayor.


1. not just 24 people got sick, it was only 24 people he asked becuse of the embaressment this had cuased him and his wife.

2. (2) people went to the hospital, were diagnosed with food poisoning and given medication. (They will release their medical records in court and they will be sueing the caterer)

3. The other 22 are going to take the stand and explain how ill they were. (They all will be filing and sueing the caterer) ALSO SOME OF THE 24 PEOPLE ARE ELDERLY AND DO NOT DRINK!!!!!!

4. This caterer took this matter to 3 seperat attorney's and the city prosecuter of Canfield and the County prosecutor where it was turned down by all 3 attorneys to represent the caterer and both city and county prosecutors said that there were no criminal charges to be filed.

5. George tried to work out an arrangement with the caterer on this matter for the breach of contract by the caterer and the owner Tony was threatening George that he would harm him and was calling George's business and threatening employees. After this George told him he would like to just work it out through attorneys. The breach of contract is that George paid for quility food and that was not delivered.

6. The wedding cost $60,000. All the other vendors were paid except the caterer from the stop payment from the guests getting food poisoning.

7. This is a personal matter and has no right being in the paper. For any one who is in question of George's ability to function as mayor, he works 40hrs a week at city hall and 40hrs a week at the financial advisory firm. He is very loyal to the citizens and slowly killing himself to try to fix things in the city. If nothing gets done it is not his fault, COUNCIL WILL NOT ALLOW ANY PROGRESS. George loves the city of Campbell and is killing himself to serve the people, he never claimed to be perfect or the smartest.

8. This is going to end up in a huge lawsuit against the caterer if more people come forward and say they were sick. It will cost the caterer 10x as much to have even followed through with this from all the lawsuits they are going to get.

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18Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

I don't believe a word you stated as you are a friend of his and your statement is biased. When I go to the Mahoning County site and see numerous entities filing claims against him for non-payment, who would you believe?

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19Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

There was cheese, grapeleaves, and cookies provided by other entities. How do you know that these items weren't spoiled? I think Ange Netta's wins this suit easily.

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20cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

It is your God given American right to believe what you would like. How ever there is to many people willing to step up and testify to the facts stated in my last comment. Even if George looses, which he has said he was willing to pay them, all of the guests who were sick will file suit and even if they loose it will cost Ange Nettas a fortune in attorney fees. Their best bet was to work this out with George when he called to talk about this matter. NOT to threaten him or his employees.

As for the county site you so frequently reffer to, I say again, he never claimed to be perfect, The one is from a stolen credit card he is fighting with the credit card company on that he is not liable for the charges, The other is an account that his mother who is sick and dying from stage 4 cancer was no longer able to pay and he was a signer on the account with her. The third is the lawsuit from the caterer.
If your referring to past lawsuits, he will tell you that he is a business man, and anyone can file suit against a business and the owner, winning is another story. Maybe you should ask him personally, he tells everyone that if they ever have a question he will answer it even if it hurts him, but it will be the truth. So be an adult and call him at city hall or even his business. DONT TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT,
I am sure you know what they say when you assume.

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21cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago


No actually I am Irish/German, I graduated from Memorial in 1968 and I have made a great living for myself from the education I received in Campbell. I am proud person and would not affiliate with someone I do not believe. Any other questions I will give you my phone number to call me. Nothing to hide over here.

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22paparalegal(2 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

From personal experience, George Krinos is a crook! It's in his blood, and the blood is on his hands. Just ask any of the people who have ever worked for the guy. How about the alarm company he tried to operate. Why don't you ask any of those people if they ever got paid- or better yet... ask any of those customers who paid money to have alarms installed in there homes and never got them! Thank God I am not a resident of the City of Cambell. Leave it to a creep like Krinos to step on the heads of the little guys! What a jerk!

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23Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Like I said before, there was other food at the wedding, not just the food from the caterer. Anyone that sues the caterer is wasting their time and money. If I'm a juror on this case, I have to side with the caterer as there is no proof that their food caused it. What about the grapeleaves, cheese, cookies, etc. ? ...they could have caused it also. There is absolutely no proof. The other guests are not going to sue as they have no case. Why would they put up a few thousand for an attorney only to lose because food at the wedding was from different sources. Case closed. Lastly, I've been to functions of the caterer and can tell you that the food was awesome and never bothered me.

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24paparalegal(2 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

From personal experience, George Krinos is a crook! It's in his blood, and the blood is on his hands. Just ask any of the people who have ever worked for the guy. How about the alarm company he tried to operate. Why don't you ask any of those people if they ever got paid- or better yet... ask any of those customers who paid money to have alarms installed in their homes and never got them! Thank God I am not a resident of the City of Cambell. Leave it to a creep like Krinos to step on the heads of the little guys! What a jerk!

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25ella61(4 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

This is ridiculous. cmhs68: You dont know what your talking about.

AngeNetta's did not have to hire three attorneys because they wouldn't take the case. The first attorney said he had a conflict of interest after leading on that he would file suit for several months. The second said she would file "any day" for another several months. Finally, the owner hired an attorney that works fast and sees that Krinos is a crook.

I was also at the wedding...as a worker for AngeNetta's. First of all, Krinos and Stephanie planned an elaborate affair they couldnt afford. They said there was going to be 500-600 people...barely 200 showed. There were 45 workers from AngeNetta's and every one of them ate something we made. NOT a SINGLE person got sick.

Also, yes the other caterers were paid. However, not until Krinos checks BOUNCED first. Stambaugh's check and the linen company's check bounced. He never had the money to pay for his wedding.

Also, the caterer that did the grape leaves received their check days before the wedding, only to have it bounce. They refused to cater the wedding unless Krinos paid in cash. He did and also cut more than half of the food he ordered. A sign he did not have the $.

If you want to know what kind of person George Krinos is...he's the kind of person that opens his wedding envelopes at his wedding and complains to the caterer that he didnt make any money from this wedding. He is DISGUSTING and should go to JAIL!!!!

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26ella61(4 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Also, George Krinos NEVER ONCE called to make a deal with Phyllis or Tony. He never called or tried to make any payment arrangements. THAT IS THE TRUTH! And the comment about Tony threatening George...ridiculous. In case you don't realize, $10,000 is A LOT of money to a small business. Phyllis and Tony have worked their whole life to build their restaurant and Krinos could make them lose everything. They can't afford not to sue him. Also, I ask you if someone owed you $10,000, what would you do???

George called Phyllis 3 days before the wedding bc he did not have the money to pay for his wedding. Stephanie came into the restaurant to finalize everything and was supposed to have the check then. She said George got held up at work. He then stalled until Friday at 5:30 because he knew Phyllis wouldn't cash it until Monday. HE IS A CROOK!

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27cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Do you have proof of all the facts you are saying. I dont believe you.

Did you work for him, if not how would you know what you are saying is even remotely true. If he is such a crook why has he not ever been arrested for stealing.

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28cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

I can call any one a crook, or even better I could call you a crook. If Mayor George Krinos was actually a crook do you think just maybe it would have been made known. How could he have possibly fooled an entire city, and also the fact that the news always loves a story. No one has ever said anything before. Not even while he was running. I know he is smart but that would require a mastermind genius to fool how ever many thousands of people.

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29cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

You actually said it in your previous comment. Let me ask any one who reads this, if the case was that strong in favor of the caterer dont you believe that an attorney would have taken it immediatley instead of having it deflected by 2 or 3 attorneys. Also if it was criminal and he should be in jail dont you think the prosecuter in Canfield, and also Mahoning County would have taken the case. It is a weak fight for your employer and they are going to have one heck of a time trying to prove their case when George Krinos has 24 people, not to mention he is going to ask all his additional guests at this point. SO if 45-50 people show up to testify who would you believe and you said 200 people showed that 25%, a very overwhelming majority.
If your worried about them going out of business maybe they should have done the job right in the first place.

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30Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

You keep missing the point. There was other food there from other places. There is no proof that the caterer caused it. George should pay the bill and quit wasting people's time. This caterer is good, has a great reputation, etc. I don't believe a word George or any of his close friends say.

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31ella61(4 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

The job was done correct. Anyone who has ever ate at the restaurant or been to a catering event, knows that we know how to do our job. We also post our health inspections at the front counter because we don't have anything to hide. We are one of the cleanest restaurants around. Our health inspections are PROOF! Anyone that has worked there, can vouch for that. And they will if needed in court! You say as a businessman, he opens himself up to lawsuits. Funny, Tony and Phyllis are business people and have NEVER been sued. In fact, I know plenty of businessmen that dont have a record like your friend, George.

Also, I dont know if you ever had to sue someone, but its NOT an easy, quick process. You act as if lawyers move fast...they don't.

You are making excuses... the reporter misquotes him all the time, etc. George, take responsibility for your actions and PAY UP!

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32Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

George doesn't have the money and Krinos Financial Group is going down the tubes . Perhaps the residents of Campbell can throw a fundraiser to pay the caterer ?

Pssstttttt . . .. Anyone wanna buy some scratch off tickets ? The only other recourse may be to double his salary . Since he can't manage money that may not work !

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33Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

What church got cheated?

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34mb2525(3 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

How can anyone say that Ange Netta's doesn't have a case and is wasting their time? George Krinos is responsible to pay them $10,000. Yes, he says many people got food poisening but what proof does he have that it was Ange Netta's food.. and trust me if EVERYONE got sick they would tell George about it.. its not like you would hide the fact you got food poisening.

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35joebag09(272 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

Why couldn't this have been labeled... "Caterer sues Mr. Krinos".....his wedding had nothing to do with the city of Campbell or his title!!

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36mb2525(3 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

If your a mayor for a city.. your actions do have something to do with your title. Who would want a man who can't even pay for his own wedding to run your city.. surely not me. It really reflects what kind of man he his..

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37mb2525(3 comments)posted 5 years, 1 month ago

My daughter was at that wedding and she didn't get sick in fact she said the food was excellent and would recomend Angenettas to anyone. GREAT FOOD

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38lidieo3(23 comments)posted 5 years ago

The mayor is doing an excellent job and is working very hard for the city. All of you bashers will eat your words when you see what he does for this area. I wonder if any of you people ever took the time to meet or speak with him before writing your posts. Not too many people would even want the job that he has taken on, and he needs some support instead of constant criticism. Give the guy a chance. In 2 months he has already worked harder than the anyone I can remember in the office. Great Job Mayor. You have our support!

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39Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

lidieo3 :

"Great Job Mayor. You have our support!"

His own business is in shambles along with his life . If he can't successfully run his own personal affairs how can he possibly run a city ? Campbell deserves better !

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40lidieo3(23 comments)posted 5 years ago

MichaelG93 - I am also a member of the church. Unfortunately, since I am currently unemployed, I fell behind on my dues too. I plan to make it up as soon as possible. Does that make me a bad person? Shame on you. You should spend more time asking for forgiveness at the church instead of trying to destroy people.

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41lidieo3(23 comments)posted 5 years ago


When are you running for office? I would like to hear your ideas. If you are not, share them with the mayor. It will take a team effort to get the city out of its current situation. I think the mayor is putting up one hell of an effort. His business and personal affairs are starting to suffer because of the time he is putting in at city hall. Instead of helping, people are hurting. I think we all need to help.

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42Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

If someone is having financial problems, of course they will fall behind in their church dues. However, a poster above stated that he bounced a check of $1,500 to the church. If this assertion is true, then why did he write a check to the church which he knew would never clear the bank? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

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43Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

lidieo3 :

" If you are not, share them with the mayor. "

George is not open to the ideas of others .

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44ComeOnMan(17 comments)posted 5 years ago

Pay the Man.

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45Silence_Dogood(1416 comments)posted 5 years ago

cmhs68 you are full of sh!t when you state "and even if they loose it will cost Ange Nettas a fortune in attorney fees"

Do you think an HONEST company like the one the Olin's run are going to buckel under to some BS threat by a two bit punk such as yourself or a corrupt Mayor. Let me inform you that to file a frivolous lawsuit or to encourage a frivolous lawsuit wont work. One last question, was the grapeleaves filled with RAW MEAT.

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46crl(18 comments)posted 5 years ago

This man needs to pay his bill. It is obscene to think that someone can say some people got sick at my wedding reception so I will not pay the $10,000 bill. Shame on you.

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47Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

There was other food brought to the event from other entities. The cheese, grapeleaves, cookies, etc. came from other places. Any of the items could have cause this (if in fact it even happened). A friend could have baked sweets for the event and used spoiled butter. To single this caterer out is wrong. If I was investigating this, I would check to see if the money to cover the $10,000 check was ever in the bride and groom's bank account at the time he wrote the check. If not, I doubt if he ever intended to pay the tab.

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48Viewpoint(89 comments)posted 5 years ago

Campbell had an excellent mayor in John Dill, but council has had their own agenda for years. I do know that Mr. Dill worked more hours as mayor than any previous mayor in Cambell, and he was and is one of the most upstanding and honest men you will ever meet in your life. Let's hope Mr. Krinos can avoid causing the city any further embarassment by cleaning up this mess with the caterer.

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49mrblue(1115 comments)posted 5 years ago

Former mayor Dill is a real nice guy but under his leadership the city didn't move forward. The citizens decided that a change was needed and in came Mr. Krinos. One must remember that an elected official really has no private life as everything he/she does will be written and talked about. Mr. Krinos needs to settle this issue and move on with the business of running the city.

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50Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

I'm not a fan of council or the finance director, however maybe they are blocking him from doing anything because they have easily figured out that he knows nothing about running a city. If people knew at the time of the election what they know now (a bankruptcy, foreclosure, bouncing checks, judgements, not paying the caterer, etc.), they probably would have voted a different way. However, they probably didn't know this, therefore they have 23 long months to go before they can decide if they want to replace him or not. I know that his personal business has nothing to do with the city, however it gives the city an even worse name than it already has.

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51Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

"I know that his personal business has nothing to do with the city"

The chance of embezzlement in office has everything to do with George's personal life .

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52Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

Good point Stan

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53cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I have always commented that everyone should go to the council meetings.

For STAN or anyone who hasn't it is near impossible for Mayor Krinos to embezzle anything. Mayor Krinos has not tried to sponsor one thing on a monetary basis. Just legislation to make the city safer, cleaner, and allow for new business. This is what coucil is blokcing him on.

Also MichaelG93, If you call city hall and the Mayor is not in, it is becuase he is constantly meeting with other officials in much higher positions, such as senators, commissioners,to try to attract more and new business.

I can say this much, Campbell is going to be on the verge of a new start. Mayor Krinos not the previous mayor has been making arrangements to bring in as many as 550 to 800 new jobs from several business he has been working with to come to Campbell. This is why he is in meeting all the time and the Gov office, Senators, and Commissioners are working with him on these items.

Council has had nothing to do with this effort, and Mayor Krinos has been working on these companies for almost 2-3 years. What will you think of him then when he saves this city?

Business is rough and a rough person has to do it. To change this city it is going to take drastic means, and he is a strong, opinionated person who will say it like it is and sticks to his believes.

This caterer business will play itself out in court. Do you think Krinos is stupid enough to believe that it wasnt going to make it to the papers. He is not a fool, he wouldnt have done this unless he believed he is right and he relized that it was going to be media coverage. The man is not stupid, give him some credit.

These companies are not pipe dreams they are real and will be breaking ground in Campbell in the next several months.

Im telling you all WATCH AND SEE!!!

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54cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

For anyone who made the comment about his business. Talk to any financial advisor and see if their business was slowed from the market over the last year.

Also he has been pulling double duty to try to help us, the citizens of Campbell to bring the change about he promissed that he is working 40hrs a week for the city and 40 hrs a week at his business. The man is pushing a rock uphill and atleast we could all give him a hand and a chance. He is there for the next 22months, lets stop pointing the finger and name calling and show him our support.

Maybe you all should realize that even he Mayor Krinos has nothing to do with something going wroung in the city he still gets the blame.



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55Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

Who are you, his campaign manager? The caterer issue will play out in court and he will lose, hands down.

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56cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

Campaign manager far from, but I am a citizen who knows from seeing first hand all of this information I am telling you.

Maybe you can figure out who I am, I am a male, Irish/German, graduated in 68 from Memorial and I have been in politics my entire life as was my father.

You are entitled to your opinion, you were not a guest there, you did not get sick there, nor do you know the entire circumstances.

The writer for the vindy did not put one thing in there that George told her from his side. Again, do you think he is stupid enough to believe that this wasnt going to make the paper.

Apparently the writer from the vindy needed a story becuase no one on 21,27,33, or even 570 is talking about this. If this was such major news dont you think they would have picked up on it and wanted a story also.

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57Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

I give the Vindy writer credit for writing the story. It may not be major news, however it is a news story about a politician who didn't pay his tab. I have talked to numerous people who went to the wedding and stated that it was a nice affair and the food was good. They never said that the food bothered them. Like I stated before, there was food there from different sources therefore your buddy should just go to the bank, take out a loan, and pay the caterer. His case is flawed if it goes to court.

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58cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

Yes I do know him well and you would to if you just asked him these questions.

Jack Dill started the rumor about him not paying his taxes, he even tried to get this writer from the vindy to write something about it, but after George showed her the info there was no story.. If you have any business smarts you would know that when you open up a company with your own money and you are loaning that company your money. Any and all money that you get back from that company is called a "REPAYMENT OF A LOAN" so there is no income tax due on it, it is not earned money becuase it has already been taxed. That is the IRS way, filing and paying taxes are two seperate things..You have to file, but you might not have to pay taxes. George and his wife loaned their business the money to start up so any money paid to them from their company is a repayment of a loan.

Did that explain it all or would you like the IRS website page that explains that in more detail.

Get it right, he filed but did not have to pay. Thats just business and the IRS rules.

Also as for Cosmo, again come to the meetings maybe you will learn a thing or two and spend some time the Mayor Krinos. It was public info on the secreatry of states site. Citizens were concerned and wanted to know what was going on with that property. The mayor gave them the answer, it was the IRS fault for putting the lean on Cosmos company and putting it on the net, the Mayor was just doing his job by informing the citizens. Which after the IRS admitted to making a mistake the Mayor publicly announced an apology, that takes guts. You can learn alot from going to council meetings.

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59cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

Let it go to court then, you have your opinion and God bless you for it. The writer from the vindy didnt put in there that George said if the court says he has to pay it then he will. Also she didnt put that he has had the money in an escrow account since he put stop payment on the check which was instructed to him by his attorney. SO its not as if he has had access to the money or even spent it. It had to be there in the first place to put it in an escrow account.

Let it go to court. I feel the lady from the vindy had the right to report the news not create the news. Making a story one sided is not the way to do it.

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60cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

Just a thought, dont you think that maybe you shouldnt believe everthing you read or hear. Who would have ever thought the secretary of state would make a mistake on a public access website. I guess if you dont see it first hand you shouldnt believe it.

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61Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago


You are so wrong on the repayment of loan info you just passed off. If you loan a company $20K to start a business and it makes a $30K profit in year one, the company pays income tax on $30K. From its profits, it can pay back the person or company who it borrowed from. Based on your stupid logic, a person can start a business, put in $100K of his own funds to buy equipment and materials, and never pay a dime of tax until his profits exceeded $100K. Loans from a shareholder have nothing to do with the profit of a company other than the interest due to the shareholder on the loan would be tax deductible. Wake up!!!!

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62Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago


I will give you the benefit of the doubt on one thing: If George and his wife loaned the money to his company, his company may be unprofitable and existing because of the capital which the two of them loaned to his company. If that is the case, that his investment company was not making a profit, then of course there would be no income tax. The company could merely be existing due to the loans which it provided them. I just want to clarify this in the event you meant to say this in the first place.

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63cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

You are very correct only if it is C corp that is how it works but as for LLC and S corps it is based upon the owners income tax bracket. SO if his company made 1million in profit but he only paid himself 20k that year and if the loan to the company was 20k then his personal income is.......guess what 0. SO again therefor the company has to pay no, again no income tax nor does the owner of that company, What college did you go to and what degree do you have becuase I am sure my knowledge of taxes by far passes yours. I know my grammer is horrible and so is my spelling but my degree is in Corperate Law and minor in finance

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64cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I just read your last comment sorry for being so harsh. but I feel we are talking about 2 seperate scenarios here, and I am just getting worked up over it. I do understand what you are saying, I am not his tax preparer but I have spoke to him about this becuase of the rumor that Jack was trying to start.
The fact is he has a CPA and that CPA is a large company, I am sure if there were taxes due he would have paid but as for filing them I can tell you that he did.
I personally have seen his prepared taxes when he approached me on this topic.

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65Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

You are so wrong. If he operates an S corp. and it makes $1 million in profit, the profit flows through to him in full if he is a 100% shareholder. He pays tax on the entire flow through from the S corp. along with any salary he earned. Since you are so smart, I will quote this from the IRS Code, An S corp. is generally exempt from federal income taxes. Instead the S corporation's income is passed through and taxed to its shareholders. I think you better get a refund on your accounting and law degree as you don't know a thing.

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66Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago


Here's the bottom line: The company probably was not profitable therefore he doesn't owe any taxes. That's all fine and good. But don't go around stating that if he had an S corp. or LLC and earned a $1 million profit, that he would only have to pay tax on the 20K a year he took out. He probably owes zero city tax as he just started his business and it takes time to get to a profit. Take care and sorry about the closing line on the last comment.

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67cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I will say that who you must think I am I am not. I dont even know anything about what you are saying. I can say that if you just go talk to the guy you will find out why he realled those 2 guys. I will be sure to say that you have an opinion which you are entitled to but not a vary informed opinion. The finance committee said that he has to show that there is the money. He did and they have no problems with the moves Mayor Krinos made. Also he personally re did the entire budget which brought it from the finance director negative -463 to a negative -128 while bringing back those 2 people. The finance committee saw his budget and said it looked great Can you maybe shed some light on me of how he can do this, the state finance committee see it and agree that it is a good budget and proceed to say things are going wroung.

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68Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

Last point, I think we have beaten this subject to death. I don't think that George has a leg to stand on in this case, but it's not up to me or anyone else. It will be up to the Judge. Let's hope he can clean up his personal finances and also that he can get this city moving in the right direction.

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69cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I will agree with you we have beaten this to death, maybe his personal finances dont look the greatest, but I cant knock him for taking a chance in business. I do know that he has a work ethic like an animal and he never claimed to be the smartest, or fastest but just that he will not let anyone outwork him. I also know that if anyone has a question on him personally he has, and will always tell you like it is. Even if it makes him look bad. I know him to be one of the hardest working men I have ever meet.

I know his heart is in the right place for the city,

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70cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I will agree that he is an optomistic person when it comes to his business and he wants it to grow, I am not making excuses for him. I would love to tell you more but I am not sure he would not appreciate me talking so indepth about his personal life.

Please do this with an open heart, when you see him next time ask him all of your questions. I can tell that you attend the same church he does. I am sure even there he will have a nice conversation with you about anything in his life, business, and past that you would want to know. He has nothing to hide and will not apologize for what happens in his life. The expression he lives by is place your heart and faith in God no matter how good or bad something in your life is, there is a higher purpose. George is not an evil man, nor does he want to hurt a single person but I do know that he believes that God will guide him no matter if its good or bad it was what is meant to be.

His heart is true and he has become a very humble person.
Sorry for being so emotional but I know him well and I know his personal convictions and I am proud of what he is trying to do for the city.

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71Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

"His heart is true and he has become a very humble person."

Yea, I could easily see that when he stiffed the caterer .

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72Nunya22(315 comments)posted 5 years ago

If it is true about alot people getting food poisioning the mayor should of sued right along with the guests who got sick. If this was a scam to get out of paying the bill that is just stupid to go with someone too expensive for your budget.

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73theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

" he never claimed to be the smartest, or fastest "

" I have been in politics my entire life as was my father. "


Didn't you claim him to be a financial wizard in another post?

You say you have been in polticis all your life. I thought you said you were an attorney in another post. Which is it?

R U his political hack that works in his office and can't win an election?

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74justice48(8 comments)posted 5 years ago


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75theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

He's a jerk and will run the city into the ground. I feel sorry for the employees who in the end will suffer

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76candystriper(575 comments)posted 5 years ago

Did the guests place stop payments on checks they gave as wedding gifts?

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77watchingthepolitics(97 comments)posted 5 years ago

The entire issue is because of the City of Campbell mentality. Thinking that getting over on someone or stiffing the hard working people of this Valley is still the way to do business. If I just STIFFED somebody for 10k I would also be a HUMBLE person with a TRUE HEART. Krinos just pay them what YOU OWE THEM, this isn't the 50's or 60's.

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78theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

Not only did the slumlords run the city into the ground all of the political hacks that got jobs didn't help either.

You have one family that had at least 8 family members working for the city at the same time...

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79walter_sobchak(2032 comments)posted 5 years ago


You are correct. Hypothetically, if I take a friend of mine to dinner and he gets sick later, my friend can't sue me. He would have to sue the restaurant. And, there is no way that I could get out of paying the bill. But, this is what the mayor is trying to do. Funny, my wedding was handled the same way your wedding was. All bills, except for the photographer, were paid by the time we left the hall.

Sounds to me like, if you deal with this guy, get your money up front. And ask for a bank check!

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80Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

I propose that we tax ALL property owners in Campbell an extra thousand dollars per year and that this money be put a seperate account under the control of George Krinos . This should then enable George to pay his bills .

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81Aware(227 comments)posted 5 years ago

Couple things here - someone mentioned 60K for that wedding..If the catering was only 10-15K, what the heck was the other money for? I am not familiar with the caterer at all, but I will say one thing here: namely, when people have others bring cookies to a wedding, they are asking for trouble. I feel the same way about bake sales at churches,etc. One has no way to ascertain the safety or cleanliness of food prepared by 'volunteers'. I for one never eat those cookies/cakes unless I am positive of the source. Only this valley practices the cookie ritual - the rest of the country plays it safe and has a cake from a reputable baker. So in fairness to this caterer, the ingredients in the cookies areprobably to blame, especially in the summer months. BTW, grape leaves are disgusting and do not belong at a wedding.

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82joseph123(3 comments)posted 5 years ago


George Krinos stiffed the Youngstown Club on his Bachelor party as well and was then subsequently kicked off the board of the Youngstown Club, just ask any one that works there... What a Jerk. For all those people that believe that what he did is not a criminal matter, you are wrong. When a loss to a victim is equal to or greater then $10,000 it is considered an Aggrevated Felony. After he looses this civil matter he will be brought on criminal charges.

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83Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

joseph123 :

EXCELLENT ! Thanks for the news .

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84Aware(227 comments)posted 5 years ago

What tangled webs are being woven here..wow! And to think it all started with tainted cookies! ;)

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85Ctown(115 comments)posted 5 years ago

I'm not sticking up for this guy however he could have been married by a JP and later had a church wedding.

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86Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

George Krinos is doing Campbell proud ! How much can he milk from the city for himself until the next election ?

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8744girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

How can he walk into work everyday knowing what he owes? He is a Mayor and should represent the city of Campbell with pride. How can he do that?

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8844girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

Ange Netta's does great at caterering. They have done many events without a complaint and I would recommend them to anyone. It's true he called them before the event wanting to change his count. You don't do this a few days in advance. I heard everyone's checks bounced, but some he did make right using some lame excuse. It's known in Boardman that he also owes for ads placed for his business in local papers. He talks big and wants things for nothing. I'm worried that Campbell will go further in the hole with someone like this in charge.

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89candystriper(575 comments)posted 5 years ago

Greece defaults blames George...failure to pay for grape leaves and olives.

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90cincybubs(3 comments)posted 5 years ago

This article has been excellent lunch time entertainment! Now I'm reminded why I left Campbell (and the Y-town area) 17 years ago and don't plan to return. If only my parents would follow in my footsteps.

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91Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

cincybubs :

Have there been any more snipers shooting at the cars from the overpasses in Cincy ?

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9244girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

I didn't vote for him!!

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93mrblue(1115 comments)posted 5 years ago

It is true. This city is in such a mess and it will take a lot to turn it around. It is time to give Mr. Krinos a chance to see what he can do. Heaven knows that Mr. Dill did nothing. He spent more time in the mayors office than anyone and didn't accomplish a thing except deplete our police and fire departents. Thanks to him and council, our insurance rating is now a 10. That means everyone will pay higher home owner insurance rates.

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94Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

mrblue :

"It is time to give Mr. Krinos a chance to see what he can do."

Caterer sues Campbell’s mayor for stop-payment on his check. This mark against George can be fixed very easily . Give George a substantial expense account so he can pay his personal bills . This way theft in office wont be an issue .

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95theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

Did the Mayor balance the budget yet? He siad that he would have a carryover this year. Just wondering if the state approved his budget or were his numbers off?

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9644girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

to LOL...I didn't vote for either one! Neither does the city of Campbell justice!!!

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97SickofJimbo(140 comments)posted 5 years ago

In regards to "Campbell should consider merging with Youngstown." Campbell should just go out of business and dissolve and go back to Coitsville Township which they were before the City of Campbell was formed. They could also try to merge with Struthers; They cannot afford to go at it alone.

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98mrblue(1115 comments)posted 5 years ago

There is still no approved budget for the city. The current finance director needs help. The city has until the end of the month to present a balanced budget to the state. I don't believe that there will be any carry over. I wonder if there will be a few layoffs to help balance the budget.

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99SickofJimbo(140 comments)posted 5 years ago

If a business was run like this it would go out of business. The taxpayers of Campbell should demand that it be run properly OR just go out of business. The City can not continue to be run like a scam business that is on its last legs and everybody is taking what they want before the bottom falls out.

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100theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

Sick of Jimbo

Campbell wasn't part or Coitsville it was the village of East Youngstown. After the steel mill riots the village changed its name to Campbell after one of the steel mill owners. The village wanted a new start after half the village was burned to the ground..

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101SickofJimbo(140 comments)posted 5 years ago


Before East Youngstown or Campbell was formed; the land of East Youngstown or Campbell was Coitsvillle Twp. Therefore if Campbell goes out of business the lands of Campbell would go back to its original entity, Coitsville Twp.
theword; you should stop spreading the wrong theword

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102candystriper(575 comments)posted 5 years ago


based on your real estate value chart...is Boardman now selling for 1980 or 1981 prices?


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103cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

devildog you say,
"And you want us to believe that Mayor Dill wanted a city without fire and police for his family and friends?"

Well if you were involved in anything to do with the city you would know that it was part of Jack Dills and the current councils 5yr plan with the state, which was approved in January of 2008. Actually here is what the list was and it was to be completed by the year 2013.

1. Layoff all Fire Fighters
2. Make the Police Dept volunteer or part time or use sherrifs for service.
3. Sell the water plant.

Thanks to Mayor Krinos he is trying to put a stop to this plan but the finance director and council still are trying to push it through.

So I ask you to answer your own question.
FYI this 5 yr plan is availible in the Mayors office, Clerk of Councils office, City Administrators Office.

Finance Director who is trying to make the state finance committe inforce the 5yr plan has a copy of this doc also.

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104cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

Either you are a realator or a landlord becuase only someone who is thinking of themself on how to make money and not the citizens who cant leave, or dont want to would ever say a thing like that. It is becuase of people like you that our entire society is in an instant satisfaction state of mind. You dont live in Campbell from your previous blogs so stay out of Campbell business.

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105cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I dont think you know anything in any blog you make. You should be ashamed of yourself speaking ill towards his wife and child. Only a coward and an you know what whole would ever insult a person's family they dont even know.
Karma sucks wait till karma turns on you.

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106cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

If you didnt vote you have no say so in anything in the city......your fault. Maybe you should have ran for mayor yourself. Or dont you think you could have handled the job?

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107cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I dont think you can make a comment on write anything that makes sense other then insult people. You must have really low self esteem issues to always have to put a person down. Heck I was reading your comments about Hagan. You must be a very lonely person in life. Goodluck, oh yea I saw on TV where e-harmony is offering a free months membership to find a companion, give it a shot maybe its what you need.

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108cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

I do enjoy where I live no matter what you may call it. You must have no sense of pride, heritage, or family roots to feel the way you do. Thanks for agreeing to stay out of Campbell business.

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109Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

I propose that we declare April 1st George Krinos day and make it a Campbell holiday . Give all city officials the day off with pay .



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110cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

April Fool's Day or All Fool's Day,holiday of uncertain origin, known for practical joking and celebrated on the first of April. Prior to the adoption of the Gregorian calendar in 1564, the date was observed as New Year's Day by cultures as varied as the Roman and the Hindu. The holiday is considered to be related to the festival of the vernal equinox, which occurs on Mar. 21. The English gave April Fool's Day its first widespread celebration during the 18th cent.

So if your saying the we should have this day as a celebration for Mayor Krinos I agree. It was once known as the new year, which is fitting becuase of their being new life to lead the city of Campbell. Also becuase everyone should be having fun and jokeing becuase the previous dictator is gone.
Great Suggestion.

FYI since your so smart all the city officials get a salary so, they get paid even if they are not there.

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111Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

cmhs68 :

"FYI since your so smart all the city officials get a salary so, they get paid even if they are not there. "

With Campbell politics I should have suspected as much . Well, have them enjoy George Krinos day off anyhow .

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112cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

First off I was assuming that from some previous blogs people were going to try to say that I am the Mayors secretary. There have been several other people who have thought so from their postings. I can assure you I am not.
I have said it before, I am an Irish/German Male and I am an attorney who has been involved in politics my whole life. Never said I held office just stayed involved! I know alot about what is going on at city hall from going to council meetings and visiting with the mayor atleast 2x a week. Your not even close on your guess, but hey I can play the game also, let me guess your a council person. Am I getting warm?
If you want to know where I saw the info, go ask the mayor for the info which was passed in jan of 2008.
Again what do they say when you assume?

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113cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

Go to the Mayors office and see that document and then you let me know. OK. and watch how far you go with saying peoples names. I am not that person but if you are not aware I believe it is illegal to disclose an officers resident on a public forum. Watch your steps, you might fall.

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114cmhs68(134 comments)posted 5 years ago

Why dont you act like an adult and go see him. I will admit we get childish on this blog. I do know he would not waste his time. Im sure he has better things to do, like run a city. If you have the moxy to talk about him on this site then you should be able to confront him face to face. I will gurantee he will talk with you and answer any question you have.
Give it a shot, it might be refreshing to actually not take a shot at someone or their family.

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116Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

MichaelG93 :

"That is a classic video! Man, if I would have known that when I was younger, I absolutely would have tried to pull that off! Good One."

This should eliminate the need for George to brown bag it for lunch .


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117theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

The mayor did in fact try to get rid of the water plant and outsource the fire department.

There is no 5 year plan to make the police department volunteer or to outsource it. If there is post it!!!!!

So is CMHS68 the mayor's political hack?

he / SHE sure does know alot about this mayor!!!!

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118TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 5 years ago

That's because CMHS68 is the mayor's father-in-law. For someone who knows so much about a persons personal life!
Yet you still never give any answers to people's questions about the info you give on the mayor.
Your only response is to ask him or talk to him,and your stance is strictly defending him with no proof.

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119Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

TheTruth123 :

"That's because CMHS68 is the mayor's father-in-law. "

My sympathies to CMHS68 . I didn't know . I sure hope that George isn't stupid enough to turn on him at some point in the future .

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120theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

Wonder if he knows about the strip clubs

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12144girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

He also has another son and was not married.

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122mrblue(1115 comments)posted 5 years ago

The mayor is holding another town hall meeting on Monday at 7:30 at city hall. That will be a golden opportunity for some of you to ask your questions and hopefully get an answer. Does anyone know what happened at the council meeting last night? I was out of town on business.

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123theword(342 comments)posted 5 years ago

I disagree with LOL when he ran for public office he chose to have his private life become public.

He personal life is an example of what kinda of person he is and what kinda of mayor he will be!!!

If he can't run his own life how is he going to run a city?

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12444girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

True and if he can't pay his bills how then can he take care of a family and run a city?

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125candystriper(575 comments)posted 5 years ago

Will this work to move all the empty promises from politicans that one reads in the Vindy?

If so I might just order one.


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12644girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

Also heard today that he cried about Stambaugh's rental price and got them to come down. Wow, maybe we all can give a sob story.

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127lynettev(6 comments)posted 5 years ago

What a loser this Krinos is. His guests probably had the flu! If it was food poisoning, more than 24 people would have gotten sick. I think he just wanted out of the tab-he figured he was above the law. What a Jerk!

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128Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago


Plenty of Woodchucks exist in the empty lots of Campbell !

Fried Woodchuck (Groundhog)

1 Woodchuck
1 tb Salt
1 c Flour
4 tb Fat
1/2 ts Salt
1/4 ts Pepper

1. Skin and clean woodchuck and cut into 6 or 7 pieces

2. Put in pot, add salt and enough water to cover and parboil for 1 hour.

3. Remove meat from the broth, and drain.

4. Dredge meat in flour, salt and pepper.

5. Melt fat in heavy fry pan and saute woodchuck until nicely browned.

Serves 6



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12944girl(14 comments)posted 5 years ago

The issue is that he bounced a large check. Got everything he wanted and stopped payment on it. I heard someone say that he didn't have money to pay Stambaugh for the alcohol the night of his reception and when he did pay his check didn't clear. It took a few days to get it straightened out. I agree with all the comments concerning the reception. How do you know it was the food? The caterer does marvelous work!! Cookies? Liquor? Grape leaves? Food that was eaten before the event? You name it. Just pay the caterer!! This was something you wanted. If you didn't have the $$ then you shouldn't had a huge event!! Also pay the newspapers for your ads....doesn't look good on you or your business!!

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130Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

"How about we give Krinos a chance to show us what type he is"

Well, we already know what type he is . Why don't we just lower the standards and quit criticizing him ? Right ?

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131SickofJimbo(140 comments)posted 5 years ago

It's obvious Krinos has money problems.
Campbell people should realize this is not who you want hiring vendors; hiring consultants; etc.
The good news is the Red Flag came early.

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132augustus(11 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

This man lies and lies and lies---remove Krinos now

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133augustus(11 comments)posted 4 years, 10 months ago

Pay the caterer--you dead beat. You have stepped over many people and your karma will caught up to you Georgie boy.......maybe Gus or Denise can loan you a buck or two.

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