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Valley should stand up in support of Rep. Ryan

Published: Sat, December 18, 2010 @ 12:00 a.m.

Democratic Congressman Tim Ryan, whose four-year membership on the powerful House Appropriations Committee has benefitted the 17th District greatly, may well lose his position — as a result of the GOP scoring a decisive victory nationally in last month’s general election. Republicans will be taking over the House next year, and major changes are in the offing.

As the minority, the Democratic Party will lose seats in the committees, which is why Ryan’s membership on appropriations could end.

But it should not occur without a fight from the predominantly Democratic Mahoning and Trumbull counties, which make up most of the 17th District. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other leaders should be warned of a political backlash against the party if the life-long Valley resident, who won convincingly last month in the midst of major party losses, is deprived of the important committee assignment.

This region has long been recognized by the state and national Democratic organizations as essential to the political fortunes of their candidates. They ask, and Mahoning and Trumbull counties deliver — a greater vote percentage than most Democratic counties in the state, if not the nation.

Even this past November, with the Republican tsunami sweeping the country, the Valley stood firm for the Democrats.

Such loyalty demands to be rewarded.

To be sure, the disenchantment with President Obama and the Democratic leadership in Congress is having a negative effect, as evidenced by the comparatively low turnout in this region. If Ryan loses his seat on the appropriations committee, voter anger will be felt in 2012 when the president seeks a second term and the party tries to win back some of the congressional seats it lost this year.

While it is true that the next speaker, Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, has talked about changing the way the House operates, including reducing the number of seats in each committee, Pelosi will still oversee the Democratic committee assignments. Ryan has been loyal to the speaker, for which he has been harshly criticized by his detractors.

His constituents expect such loyalty to be acknowledged.

Legislative record

When he was appointed to appropriations, we argued that Ryan had earned the position not only because of his legislative record, but his willingness to campaign on behalf of fellow Democrats. We also felt it was time this region was recognized for its Democratic roots. The last congressman from the Valley to serve on the appropriations committee was the late Michael Kirwan, a long-time legislator and one of the most powerful members of Congress.

The argument being put forth about Ryan’s possible reassignment is that there are other members with more seniority. So what? The seniority system has long been criticized because length of service does not necessarily equate to performance.

The Mahoning Valley has earned the right to have its congressman on the appropriations committee. Party loyalty must count for something.


1repeaters(314 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

We should re-name the valley to the 'PIG VALLEY'....we don't make steel anymore but what a GREAT bunch of PIGS we've become. Evidently, our smart children who got a good education, get away from here for a better life, but those raised by PIG farmers and the Vindicator continue porking on the valley farm. Emagine JFK campaigning in the PIG VALLEY against T. Ryan and asking, 'ask not what your country can do for you...ask what you can do for your country'. The Vindicator editorial would be, 'he's not one of us...he's not a pig farmer and doesn't believe in our values'.The he*l with what's best for the country; what's in it for me....right VINDY???? PORK FARMERS FOR EVER!!!!!

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2UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Tim Ryan as a liberal socialist Dumbocrat who represents what is wrong with this valley. He has done NOTHING that made a difference in the valley economy or why are we among the highest in unemployment percentages? He did not deserve to be re-elected and his Earmarks will soon come to an end as the American people go in a different direction of Tax & Spend cutting. It's too bad the valley will once again be left behind because they voted for a Dumbocrat. The valley will see nothing but more unemployment and poverty because they chose the wrong path once again.

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3author50(1121 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

There are only 2 growth industries in the Valley - big government and non-profit agencies. Give the Vindicator editorial staff some credit for seeing that!

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4candystriper(575 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

I called Ryans office and Harry Reid answered the phone. When I asked to speak with Ryan Pelosi came to the phone.


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5redvert(2239 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Don't worry, Piglosi will look after Timmy, he will stay in her good graces. Not that she will be able to do much for him.

Have to admire the democrats, Piglosi led them down to defeat in the House and they still voted to retain her. Love it when a plan comes together.

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6jack13315(3 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Like all progressives, Ryan and many valley leaders feel that government should be the cure all for all problems. The more we tax, the more we spend, the more we spend the more we are asked to spend and the circle goes on.
Government in these United States was not intended to be the provider of all needs. To Tim Ryan and his cronies, I say the sooner they are gone from Washington the better.

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7redeye1(5657 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Boo Hoo, Little Timmy is going to lose his mighty position. Its about time, the socialist pig. The more he gets the Gov't involved in our lives the better this valley likes him. There are still a few of us with common sense that really see's what going on. So bye Bye Little Timmy

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8Traveler(606 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

What i love is no matter what the democrats or republicans do the vindy and unions will be behind the democrats 100%. Its that blind obedience and faith that is the reason that the democrats dont care about unions or the valley anymore. They know what every they do they can always get support from the valley, newspapers like the vindy, and Unions that still refuse to admit things have changed and it isnt the 1950s anymore.

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9JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Committee membership as I understand it is driven by majority as well as by tenure -- neither of which can be claimed by Ryan in this case. Ryan is certainly not the only one who will lose a committee seat during the transition. In short, I'm really not quite sure of the point of this column. Committee turnover isn't a slight against a given congressional district; it is the way things work. As far as people "standing up" for Tim Ryan it would seem that they already did...by electing him in the first place.

I'm left to conclude that this column was an effort to fire up the wackos who posted above and nothing more -- in that case, well done. It is a good thing I visit this site for entertainment rather than information.

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10Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Well as long as the "BIG LEBOWSKI" is fired up I guess that is the same as the fat lady singing . . ..

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11redvert(2239 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Seems that the libs are reasonably quiet recently. Must be hard to deal with all the discontent in the democratic party at the moment.

It is just not right, everything was just so wonderful at obowsers coronation. Now he is at odds with Ried and Piglosi. So sad.

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12Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

You got them from the government (the PBGC). , but you are right you did not get your supplements . . And now we find out you get most of your health benefits from the government . If seems as you have your mouth full and crying you are hungry

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13republicanRick(1731 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Typical Vindy editorial board nonsense -- what are we supposed to do, start a whining campaign to keep Tim on the cmte? Journalists today have no clue how society works -- they have become useless now that we have blogs and the internet to keep us informed.

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14CompMan(162 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

FairandEqual, congratulations on getting the HCTC bill passed wherein the taxpayers get to pay 80% (over $10,000 per year) of your health care. Kinda like medicade for bankrupt company employees don't you think. Take your 80% savings and compare that to your lost supplement pension and not having to pay taxes on that part. Probably made out at taxpayer expense. Ready to pay the taxpayers back if your win your pension back? You say earned? Not fair? I say "suck it up you jack wagon..you are living in mamby pamby land". That said whilst we disagree, Merry Christmas to you and family.

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15Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Fair I said you lost your supplement ( which I feel is unfair), which was promised to you by Delphi not GM . The union workers got their early out supplement because of the court ( who let the contract stand ) said they had it coming and GM did pay it because they had the right at the time of their retirement to retire under the GM /UAW/IEU contact . You did not because you did not have a contract. ALL you only had was Delphi 's promise . And you where over heard saying that is all you need ( that is hearsay I did not hear you say that). . But that has nothing to do with it ..YOU DID NOT have a contract But you could have . The hourly retired workers lost their health benefits and get some from the UAW trust fund not GM or from the government like you do . So with your mouth full of food ,your PBGC pension , your Government health benefits , full bank acct. from your high pay at Delphi and new cars in your drive way I see little that you should be up set with .But you are . Hope you can have a Marry Christmas

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16palbubba(809 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Another garbage editorial by the garbage Vindy. It's quite an indictment when the only reason stated for Timmy keeping his committee seat is his loyalty as a lap dog to Nancy. How can just loyalty make you worthy? If you are loyal to the wrong people or cause that is reason to be removed. The voters have deemed that he was loyal to the wrong everything. This partisan loyalty is what is wrong with our government today. He will always get reelected because he has a (D) after his name, not because of any good he has done. The biased Vindy couldn't even sight the good he has done, only his lap dog loyalty. One other growth industry in the Valley, the prison system.

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17Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

FAIR Same to you and yours . Hope things work out for you . I just feel you blame the wrong people for your problems .

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18walter_sobchak(2713 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

The House Democrats took the worst shellacking in history and Plastic Nancy still is going to be their leader? I guess she didn't get the message this last November and she will continue to drive the party farther done. Unfortunately for Little Timmy Ryan, he hitched his wagon to the wrong horse andhe is now paying for it. Quit whining and move on!

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19DJ0(72 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

..if the idiots that supported him would have instead thrown his useless butt out of office, this blog wouldn't have been necessary. He's simply another yes man for all that is wrong with congress, and as a consequence, this nation. Getting him off any committees is the first step in a positive direction!

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20Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Wow so much hate

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21unhappyvoter1(87 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago


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22nolongerdemocrat(4 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

I have been a democrat all my life and worked faithfully everyday and never have I ever asked for help. I needed help 2 months ago for a family member someone told me to call Tim Ryan's office and I did some guy named Tom answered I asked to speak to tim and he said he was not there could I help you, I told him the story told me to call back on monday I did he said he had people out trying to help me with the problem and I called back and he gave me another line of crap. So, now 2 months later here we are with a family member that is in the nursing home and coming out with nowhere to go. I will starve to death before I vote for a democrat again or vote. I will never vote again. I thnk our country went to hell.

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23davidjohn(144 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

why did the vindy eliminate the venerose comments

did they bother dellick

or hunter

or venerose

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